Part of the issue with fishing as added by most games is that it's just a time filler. Rarely is it implemented in a way there is a reason to fish for the sake of fishing. Aside from games specifically built around it (the old bass tournament arcade games come to mind), it's basically just a few old one-offs like the fishing in Ocarina of Time. I doubt Team Carnal is going to go to that level of detail, but they might at least make it somewhat interesting and/or make it worthwhile by rewarding you in other ways.
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This reminds me of those times people did say they liked fishing. I mentioned it in my previous post but I remembered why they liked fishing in that context: it was all about the economy of the MMO, mostly for gaming the auction board but also for clearing hard dungeon bosses, which was the reason why it sold on the auction board in the first place.
Carnal Instinct is an easy game and it's not like we're going to see multiplayer support, anti-cheat, raids, or any kind of MMO aspect, but for games where people liked fishing, it had much to do with A) getting equipment parts to make into good equipment, B) an easy way to get money, or C) temporary stat-boosters (ingredients to make meals or potions) to make the game easier for a moment. In MMOs (C) was a big deal because of level caps and hard team-oriented boss battles.
I don't doubt that there will be rewards, it's kind of the status quo for what fishing really means in these games.
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Hey actual meaningful fishing mechanic discussion, nice. They do mention directly in that devlog that the fish will be sellable as well as used in cooking whenever that drops, which will give you "various gameplay benefits." I'm just spewing ideas but I could see it as a means for unlocking specific aquatic body morph parts maybe, and potentially fishing up treasure from a fishing loot table. Will it actually go that far? Probably not, but I wouldn't mind if it did. At the very least I can see some quests centered around it.
I'm a guy with near 200 hours in a fishing game on steam and I like to fish IRL, so I think it's safe to say I actually can enjoy it when it's done right. And even when it's not I think harmless fun is a good way to describe it. I would honestly be incredibly surprised if the fishing had any actual complexity to it, but even if it was something like Stardew I'd be alright with it. Although I think it would be really funny if the fishing stuff does end up being super in-depth.
I'm a guy with near 200 hours in a fishing game on steam and I like to fish IRL, so I think it's safe to say I actually can enjoy it when it's done right. And even when it's not I think harmless fun is a good way to describe it. I would honestly be incredibly surprised if the fishing had any actual complexity to it, but even if it was something like Stardew I'd be alright with it. Although I think it would be really funny if the fishing stuff does end up being super in-depth.
That's great to hear MidnightKing! Along with selling and cooking, I can elaborate on the equipment crafting part. The most direct way I've seen fish turned into equipment was in the MMO-like co-op MOBA Warframe, where fish of flesh are processed into their guts, glands, oils, bones, and such along with sci-fi logic to produce weaponry of partial biological origin that was no only effective enough for endgame based on part and module parameters but there was a kind of experience point system applied to the weapons that let them be sold back to the related weapon part and schematic vendor for profit in faction points. There were also "fish" of machinery swimming in a terraformed planet's "coolant sea", built by a typical long-lost race of space geniuses in a typical Romanesque collapsed society. Robo-fish were even more relatedly turned into weaponry.
MMOs of Asian mythology style tend to turn fish into essence or oil that are somehow important in producing strong magical weapons. I suppose this approach is more relatable to Carnal Instinct. Expand upon this idea further and we can get a system much like Red Dead Redemption 2's legendary creatures hunting and crafting, forming useful equipment from seemingly ordinary animals. Beasts like the Kravenrook could make interesting equipment.
An afterthought: furries wearing fur clothing is something that seems ironic. Scalies wearing scales and humans wearing skin feels yet more morbid. I wouldn't mind seeing more clothing variety from such a system. What we have is good for an early build but the variety feels too narrow after a couple of early alpha speedrun trials.
MMOs of Asian mythology style tend to turn fish into essence or oil that are somehow important in producing strong magical weapons. I suppose this approach is more relatable to Carnal Instinct. Expand upon this idea further and we can get a system much like Red Dead Redemption 2's legendary creatures hunting and crafting, forming useful equipment from seemingly ordinary animals. Beasts like the Kravenrook could make interesting equipment.
An afterthought: furries wearing fur clothing is something that seems ironic. Scalies wearing scales and humans wearing skin feels yet more morbid. I wouldn't mind seeing more clothing variety from such a system. What we have is good for an early build but the variety feels too narrow after a couple of early alpha speedrun trials.
Yeah, game features like fisting mechanics. No game in existence (except if you want to waste three years in VAM?) has dynamic, non-preanimated fisting, that would actually be a valuable mechanic. I don't want gallery scenes, I want gameplay sex. I want to roll for anal circumference lmao. How hard is that to understand. There hasn't been a game since SuperDeepthroat that had good sex gameplay. And instead of doing anything remotely like that, the devs seem to have their sights set on making a SURVIVAL CRAFTING RPG #385653
Hold on, let's rewind. The moment you mention "SuperDeepthroat" as a game for good sex gameplay I understand your frame of reference is super dated, like from over a decade ago during the Macromedia Flash Game era. So hold that thought and answer for yourself the following: when you played SDT, did you have fun A) customizing the girl and boy, B) Playing with the dialogue system to trigger emotion and action changes, or C) modding the game with custom SWF content for diverse shapes and backgrounds?
Regardless of your answer, you're looking for a gallery game. Games like Honey Select 2 and its studio hold your answer. If you want to design characters with mild choices in personality and sex properties, Koikatsu focuses on personality just a touch but it's way more than HS2. If you don't mind a lack of voice acting but want the potential to create weirdly behaving NPCs with nuance, try Artificial Academy 2.
Now that we're past that: Carnal Instinct is like Skyrim but without mods but with the logic of porn mods fitted into the story from the base foundation. In exchange for mod support and sex everywhere you get erotic storytelling from the foundation for a cleaner though dryer experience. This game won't hold much of what you want besides that one island that's all sex all the time. Sorry, with this game you're out of luck.
Try Karryn's Prison though, you'll find plenty of sex everywhere, gameplay is good from the start, and a certain overhaul does more with edicts and progression for yet more gameplay. If you want less game and more sex, try Unaware in the City. And for good combat and literal fisting mechanics, try Pain Re:In.
Maybe I can come back to edit my post with links, but for now please use the forum search function.
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No, I had fun stretching out her throat with a giantic schlong, which took time because the game simulated the throat barrier and she made wonderful noises and sometimes passed out because she ran out of actually simulated breath. My "frame of reference" is "super dated" because no good game since then even attempted anything like that AFAICT, all focusing on character designs and personalities and running around punching things and having to lose on purpose to get raped with a preanimated scene.
re:recommendations (thanks for taking time to think about them, even though I am trashing them):
Karryn's Prison - awful art and pre-drawn animations, are there even animations? Was off-put by the art to even try it out honestly, sorry.
Unaware in the City - looks interesting if really janky, will check out. But it's still just an old-concept sprite game, no progress.
Pain Re:In - will check out even if ryona is not my thing, and the main gameplay mechanic still looks to be running around punching things but yeah thanks.
And yeah, I do have modded Skyrim but again, it's just a gallery on top of running around punching things mostly and really janky besides. There might be some good mods I'm not utilizing properly because can't be bothered anymore (f.e. SLEN seems like a good concept but there doesn't seem to be a manual for it anywhere!! I'm just running around romancing tons of NPCs totally clueless as to how to progress!) If I have to rebuild the animation cache for two hours one more time...
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Okay, now you're being more direct. Unfortunately I won't help you despite the possibility I could for the following reason:
Very rarely over the years I do bump into some simulator games for sex. They were most often encountered in Macromedia Flash even in fairly recent years. However I don't feel comfortable recommending them, because from my memory something seemed off about them. Particularly extreme ryona seems to feature that stuff, and while not what I enjoy I could tolerate it. However one particular such game felt awful due to being the most graphic depiction of [redacted] I've ever seen in a game, and I felt so dirty after playing I immediately deleted it.
So yeah. For your tastes I recommend hitting up Pixiv, translating to English, and finding games with the ryona tag tha's about interacting with a girl you have sex with. Ryona fetish games simulate the body fairly frequently because the point of the violence and gore is the interaction with the body. And for that one game topic I redacted, certain personal relationships. I personally don't enjoy those.
As they say, normal gamers and simulator gamers are very different kinds of gamers. Find a sex simulator. Those are rare and not really the kind of "game" that "gamers" like the play. Hence simulators and games being very different though having community overlap.
For a more normal game experience with pseudo-simulation aspects, there's lots of stuff out there. If you like weirdly accurate behavior in bewilderingly flat 2D, try Dwarf Fortress or Rimworld.
So we mostly agree that there really isn't a good game that does interactive simulated sex like that. And somebody should make one, not a full simulation though because those are fiddly. SDT really was the peak, enough simulation to be interesting and engaging but not gigantic learning cliff. That's why I'm in this Carnal instinct thread, that dynamic sex minigame they have (or, had, sadly) seems like a move in the right direction to me.
And as I said, ryona is not really my thing, I do have a huge fetish for big cocks struggling to fit into tight holes and actually succeeding with patience and practice and hentai logic stretchiness, but without blood and tearing, that's bad. Though those bits you censored made me curious, if you could PM details please (it will bug me otherwise).
Haha I spent some time with RimJobWorld, but it's just sprites and text sadly, though very hot.
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May not have as much depth as SDT, but if you want some gameplay sex I can recommend Factorial Omega
The closest game I'm aware of that lets you toy with and stretch characters dynamically is Hotel Elera, but that still has prefab positions.
some nonsense, downloaded the latest version, and there is almost no content. Three cripples and a pleasure island. Two years ago I downloaded there was a lot of content. Especially remember the moment with the snake on the dock. Now there's nothing. This is bullshit.
The short story behind this is the team transitioned from UE4 to UE5 since new UE releases get about 10 years of support from the developers of the engine and plenty of collaboration and advice sharing from game dev forums. Prior UE releases get less support over time as Epic no longer works on the engine and game devs no longer use it or offer advice for it.
Jarring content losses to build back to are the standard problem with this kind of situation. The team had to do it to keep the game worthy to continue building during the following years, so they switched to an engine that will stay good in the long run. They're restoring content over time.
We talked about this before in the thread, try searching "engine", "UE5" or another related term.
It's all understandable. But in the end we get a project that takes years to build and stays at one point. I hope they at least think of a POV camera. Or at least a free...
Understood. Yes, fans won't like the wait. Yes, switching engines is among the top reasons why projects die. However a new update is coming and based on the reasoning for the lack of content in the previous update (surgery), we can judge the future pace of the project depending on how substantial upcoming content feels. The next release is stated to be by the end of April.
By the end of April while I hope that it will drop by then I've come to accept that it'll be 1 to 2 weeks after that for someone to add it here.
Oh yea, I totally forgot about that, and the Rack family and friends. Hotel Elera has so nightmarishly ugly characters though, and it's all so janky
You just reminded me. There is an insane recommendation I can give just for the hell of it, based on "toy with and stretch characters dynamically".
KoboldKare. Yes, that game.
The Kobold beasts are freaky toy animals by their anatomy. You can breed them for bigger cocks, tits, and bodyweight, sure, but the real magic is their wormhole nature bodies - if a cock is long enough to go in through the ass and come out the mouth, it will happen. The other way around too. Through a whole kobold's body into another kobold's body, sure. Even into the same kobold again, that's ass-to-mouth autofellatio. It's all nonsense for the purpose of breeding more kobolds. Go ahead, use a literal damn pump to swell a kobold's belly to massive size so it lays a massive egg. Heck, sodomize a kobold to orgasm using a dildo, another kobold, or the egg it just laid. Whatever. Just having them stand next to each other in certain positions makes their cocks gravitate into a hole and you get autoimpregnation just from them idling standing next to each other.
Anyway hard to say the game's good, but it's so bizarre it'll feel good for a while.
Also we need to stop talking recommendations, it's been a while and that's derailing the thread against forum policy.
Wonder if demons, orcs or goblins will be added..
if it's Egyptian theme what about bugs/insects? It would be nice to have a uterus/xray system too like some other games.
if it's Egyptian theme what about bugs/insects? It would be nice to have a uterus/xray system too like some other games.