Thanks. Patches are way better than downloading the whole thing every update.
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Such a cool concept turned into a brothel simulator. Do you realise how good of a story would come out of this if you just put your mind to it except going "hehe margot robbie suckin dik".
If that fails, you can always flip the vars in the devtools\console to true. (SugarCube.State.active.variables.patreon should show the rest.)
Just "= true" these and switch scene should enable them
Hey there,
I know that nobody asked, but here some thoughts on the game:
1. This is a market that definitely will be huge in the coming years - and the bigger it gets, the bigger the push-back will get. But as long as you fly under the radar, there is no reason that you as a so called "Early Adopter" can't a nice bit of money out of this project - but I would also suggest (like others before) a change in monetization.
Before you paywall certain content, be advised that the amount of people that are active on a pirating website, but unable to find the solutions for such paywalls. This isn't a common mobile game where people without any technical knowledge are active, this is a niche-community where a fair number of people is able to circumvent any obstacles and then share the solution with others. Your paywall might even have long term the effect that you are seen as the bad guy. Instead of trying to get everyone to pay (and many here might not even be able to pay anything), try to create incentives for bigger spenders and medium spenders. Let Patreons decide the next Celebrity / Kinks with polls - the higher the tier, the more votes you get. Let them decide story elements, let them decide where the game goes. You are right now one of the only, if not THE only deepfake-creator on the platform with a bigger following, use that to let the paying people decide where the game goes. This way, you stay on the good side of everyone while also giving people that like the project great incentives to sponsor you.
2. When it comes to story, be aware who you want to compete with. There are MANY deepfake sides out there where you can watch videos. If your game doesn't evolve to more than a bit of clicking for a small video, many people will sooner or later just cut out the middle man and go and search for the videos without clicking for it. Now, I get that you want the game to be a rewarding experience: Great reward for not so much investment on the player side. But keep in mind: You want to compete against other porn games, not against porn-websites - you can't win the fight against the latter. Instead, use deepfakes as the kicker, the reason why / user benefit for your game, but deliver a game around it. If that game is more mechanical or has simply more plot, that can be decided by you or your patreons or by your mother for all I care (ask her!), but the appeal of a big collection of deepfake videos has only a limited appeal when compared to a much bigger collection online. Make gameplay more rewarding, maybe more challenging or more surprising or whatever. There are different options for you, different paths to follow.
3. A small thing that I see everywhere, not only in the porn-game-business: Cut your darlings. Please do it. There do not need to be 41 blowjob-videos for Anne Hathaway. There is a thing called "diminishing returns" - if I offer you a free laptop, you will be grateful, if I offer you a second one, you might still be grateful (and slightly confused), but when I then offer you 20 more, you will begin to curse all the laptops that make it impossible for you to get to bed without stumbling over one. "Too much of a good thing" is real. It makes the game too big. Try to get maybe 8 or 10 videos for every celeb per event-chain / level, and then stop, even if you love the material you find.
With that in mind: You are on a good way here. This game will never be for everybody, but it can have a broad appeal for porn fans in general. But do not try to please everyone, instead try to find a part of the community that is willing to support you and cater to them more.
Greetings,
Delex
I know that nobody asked, but here some thoughts on the game:
1. This is a market that definitely will be huge in the coming years - and the bigger it gets, the bigger the push-back will get. But as long as you fly under the radar, there is no reason that you as a so called "Early Adopter" can't a nice bit of money out of this project - but I would also suggest (like others before) a change in monetization.
Before you paywall certain content, be advised that the amount of people that are active on a pirating website, but unable to find the solutions for such paywalls. This isn't a common mobile game where people without any technical knowledge are active, this is a niche-community where a fair number of people is able to circumvent any obstacles and then share the solution with others. Your paywall might even have long term the effect that you are seen as the bad guy. Instead of trying to get everyone to pay (and many here might not even be able to pay anything), try to create incentives for bigger spenders and medium spenders. Let Patreons decide the next Celebrity / Kinks with polls - the higher the tier, the more votes you get. Let them decide story elements, let them decide where the game goes. You are right now one of the only, if not THE only deepfake-creator on the platform with a bigger following, use that to let the paying people decide where the game goes. This way, you stay on the good side of everyone while also giving people that like the project great incentives to sponsor you.
2. When it comes to story, be aware who you want to compete with. There are MANY deepfake sides out there where you can watch videos. If your game doesn't evolve to more than a bit of clicking for a small video, many people will sooner or later just cut out the middle man and go and search for the videos without clicking for it. Now, I get that you want the game to be a rewarding experience: Great reward for not so much investment on the player side. But keep in mind: You want to compete against other porn games, not against porn-websites - you can't win the fight against the latter. Instead, use deepfakes as the kicker, the reason why / user benefit for your game, but deliver a game around it. If that game is more mechanical or has simply more plot, that can be decided by you or your patreons or by your mother for all I care (ask her!), but the appeal of a big collection of deepfake videos has only a limited appeal when compared to a much bigger collection online. Make gameplay more rewarding, maybe more challenging or more surprising or whatever. There are different options for you, different paths to follow.
3. A small thing that I see everywhere, not only in the porn-game-business: Cut your darlings. Please do it. There do not need to be 41 blowjob-videos for Anne Hathaway. There is a thing called "diminishing returns" - if I offer you a free laptop, you will be grateful, if I offer you a second one, you might still be grateful (and slightly confused), but when I then offer you 20 more, you will begin to curse all the laptops that make it impossible for you to get to bed without stumbling over one. "Too much of a good thing" is real. It makes the game too big. Try to get maybe 8 or 10 videos for every celeb per event-chain / level, and then stop, even if you love the material you find.
With that in mind: You are on a good way here. This game will never be for everybody, but it can have a broad appeal for porn fans in general. But do not try to please everyone, instead try to find a part of the community that is willing to support you and cater to them more.
Greetings,
Delex
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I really appreciate your point of view, I really agree with much of what you said.
You know? This is not the first game I made, it's the second. The first one I made was called "El Bar" It was a hentai-style bar management game, where you inherited a bar. You have no idea how to do it so at first you can only serve beers and had to learn how to prepare cocktails. While the character learned about how to prepare each contectel, you also did it yourself. You could you read about the history of each one, its ingredients and preparation. Different types of customers came, some drunk and some girls you could meet, each one of them had their own history. You had to conquer the girls just to get their phone number, then keep talking to them little by little to increase their confidence, have dates and only then could you sleep with them.
There was a lot of bar management gameplay, lots of character dialogue, and few (but high-quality) videos.
In fact the figures you see here were drawn by my brother who is a tattoo artist.
Each option resulted in a different reaction from the girl and had its own image to show it.
The game was 100% free, the patreons only saw a few weeks before the next thing I would add to the game.
I even made it possible for you to choose the language within the game itself, Spanish and English... which was a horrible pain in the ass!
Here it is in case you're curious:
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After programming that game for about 8 months, I publishing it
I was getting constant praise and congratulations, and very little criticism, but the criticism was always the same:
"there are a lot of text and not enough porn... for a porn (hentai) game... "
I think after 3 months I get only 16 bucks.
So I made the Celebrity which is the exact opposite in every way:
It has a lot of porn and almost no history. It's getting a lot of criticism but it's a success.
For every negative comment you see here, I get 3 or 4 new patrons.
It's the Saul Goodman of games, lol.
Now I'm reinvesting the profits in developing it professionally, with professional game developers. It will no longer be an html game, and it will be more of a "manage your own business, your own restaurant, etc." but with the theme of the brothel, (and yes, I will keep only the best material, my patreons are already voting on it in the private discord channel).
I know that not everyone will like it either, but it will be more similar to what I would like to play...
and only with that I will be happy.
You can see Celebrity as a prototype, a proof of concept of something much bigger that we are already building together,
or you can enjoy it as it is, or just hate it. For me the biggest advantage of this community is not money but comments like yours.
It helps me a lot to give my best!
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patreon bypass is easy
you can edit directly with notepad on html
or if you want to work with your old save then save game to local disk
then use this
ctrl + f search for "patreon" then replace false with true and download the save then load it with the game
you can edit directly with notepad on html
or if you want to work with your old save then save game to local disk
then use this
You must be registered to see the links
to load the save filectrl + f search for "patreon" then replace false with true and download the save then load it with the game
is there cheats for version 1.21
Please be careful with investment into this game - keep in mind that the climate around this technology can shift drastically and suddenly. This isn't a grey area you are operation in, it is de facto illegal. Of course, there is not really someone getting damaged by it, which is why I have no (or at least only little) morally quarrels with the whole project, but when it comes to creating a business around it... I think it depends on where you live (and that's not a question, please don't tell us where you live!).
If you are hailing from the US or core-Europe (EU), you should not try to professionalize this ordeal and stick to original ideas without the likeness of other people. If you are for example from Central Africa or are operating from a hut in Mongolia, there is little they can do against you beside of trying to go after your payment channels. If that is the case: Godspeed, do whatever you want to do. But if not, if you are within the jurisdiction of developed country that follows international copyright laws... you could lose all you invest and more. So please be careful.
The other game looks very nice. I have a masters degree in marketing, and what you describe is the fallacy. If you buy a focus group and ask 200 people (5-10 people per group, many different groups) if they like or dislike an ad, they will always tell you that they want more information about the product, less sexy women and less screaming / less slogans. Informative, substantial and funny clips poll well.
But guess what: Sexy and stupid ads yield higher results for the bottom line. People do not know what they want, they just think do - in reality, they hope to want something because it fits their own self-image. It seems like the same goes for sex-games: People say they want deep stories and great plots, but in the end, they want just pure sex.
Still, I stand by my points from before. Short term, your game might be more successful as a video-library, but for long term engagement of a dedicated core-audience, a game with real mechanics and story will be better and more stable. But it seems like you either figured that one out yourself long before I started talking, or that it simply fits what you want to create anyway.
I wish you luck on your journey!
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I think this talk would be great material for a class, or a funny stand-up talk about marketing, don't you think?
And thank you very much for your valuable advices, I really appreciate it and the time you have taken to do it.
i'm not usually one for deep fakes, but these surprised me by their quality. as other's have mentioned, putting them to work in a game with an actual story instead of the grind-for-scene deal could actually make the creator some decent money (or maybe not, i'm not sure how copyright laws work with the use of real people's likenesses, but if anyone wanted to do it for free they'd sure earn a lot of respect lol).
what i really came here to do was bitch about the one scene with Cameron where she takes all of your money and there's nothing you can do about it. i don't know why the creator would add that and no way to escape it except loading a prior save or just letting her take 15k from you, it just seems like an intentional middle finger to the player. maybe it wasn't meant to be unlockable until later in the game, but having spent the better part of an hour grinding out 20k and to have almost all of go to waste on a forced sex scene is annoying as hell. and just practically, who would spend 15k to sleep with a woman you've already fucked?
what i really came here to do was bitch about the one scene with Cameron where she takes all of your money and there's nothing you can do about it. i don't know why the creator would add that and no way to escape it except loading a prior save or just letting her take 15k from you, it just seems like an intentional middle finger to the player. maybe it wasn't meant to be unlockable until later in the game, but having spent the better part of an hour grinding out 20k and to have almost all of go to waste on a forced sex scene is annoying as hell. and just practically, who would spend 15k to sleep with a woman you've already fucked?
- Jun 26, 2017
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And you overdid it.
I found as many people there is to little history and to many videos.
Also in lvl 9 the game broke and activates all the activities for all the whores no matter they dont have experience, at lvl 10 also broke and following the previous lvls rules you should have max 24 clients but never go up from 20.
Also i started playing with v1.21 and not find any lust bar to fill.
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well, thanks for your observation, I'm going in the opposite direction now.
Regarding bugs, maybe you edited the html and broke it?
you can download the clean html from here
You must be registered to see the links
(save page as html) and replace the one you have.
Another bug happens (I said it before) when you have money to hire girls before the first day has passed. On the first day there is a kind of "undercover tutorial" where the locations such as the laboratory, real estate, etc, appear one by one so that you become familiar with them. So... start the game, open all the locations for the first time, skyp the day and then do the cheat thing.
I hope it helps you.
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