VN Ren'Py Completed Changeling Tale [v1.0.2] [Little Napoleon]

[DarthLAX]

This I like so far (haven't played to the - current- end yet, but I like it so far)

I like the atmosphere, the art etc.

The really sad thing - IMHO - is that I can understand the MC's parents! My great-granparents had a farm, too (well, the ones on my father's side, I don't know what my mother's great-grandparents did) and I am glad that my grandfather didn't want anything to do with it and left to work at other jobs (he was the bosses deputy at a company that made wooden anythings (basically: If its made of wood, then you could get it there - except stuff like say a casket) when he retired, but he had worked a ton of other jobs, too before that)...frankly I'd probably hang myself before working on a farm (does that make me a bad guy? Maybe -.-)

 

[RedPillBlues]

We stream almost all of our work on the game, and streams typically range between 8 and 16 hours a day. While I understand concerns about speed, we produce 1 chapter every 2-3 months. Each chapter we've released has had about 20k written words and 250 images (including around 20 CG's).

Then how is it after 2 years you only have a single sex scene?

 

[Watsup]

Then how is it after 2 years you only have a single sex scene? Let me emphasis to that, S I N G L E blowjob scene.

Just to be clear, this project hasn't been in development for 2 years yet, our second anniversary is in March.

To answer your question, the sex scenes aren't the focus of the game. I mentioned it before, but our focus is on our niche, which is the transformation genre. The sex scenes might be what you expect in a standard visual novel, but our community cares far more about the transformation content. Our transformation scenes are our sex scenes.

The blowjob scene itself (which is also a transformation scene) for context, took us about 3 weeks alone to make (it's 20+ individual images, including 3+ cg's with alts). Drawing stuff is just something that takes a long time, that's why other VN's stick to flats and simple repeatable art styles. There's a reason disney switched to 3d and no one does 2d animation anymore.

We also want to tell a deeper story than a cheesy VN porn game. So setting everything up is important to us, and the earlier chapters won't feature a lot of sexual elements. Each girl will have 4 chapters, and the sex/relationship stuff tends to start in chapter 2-3. Which chapter we do has been voted on by the patrons and so far they've voted for each girl to get 1 chapter in, so we haven't gone very deep into any single romance yet.

We've told this to every single person who says they don't donate to Patreon campaigns: you are completely free to wait until the game is out, we get it, it will be on steam when it's 100% complete and you can pick it up for $20~. Not everyone can afford to drop $36 a year to fund a games development, we get that.

The Patreon supporters will be paying more for the game to be done, that's just a fact. But this niche would never see a high quality project that requires more investment than a hobby without someone out there investing in it. There aren't exactly any angel investors paying out $50k a year in the transformation porn community.

TLDR: Why aren't there more than 1 sex scenes yet? Because we've been making other assets, sex scenes come at the end of romance lines, we've been doing romances wide instead of deep based on Patreon votes.

 

[DarthLAX]

Ok, I don't appreciate the mini-game with the cows...seriously, I hate stuff like that (I didn't enjoy jump and runs on a gameboy and I frankly don't enjoy this either!) and I don't have slow reaction times (I play FPS games, especially Battlefield, and I am not the worst player! Hell, I could be better if I played all careful and if I camped in corners etc. - but frankly: I want to have fun, not a good kills to deaths ratio!), still argh this really got me angry

 

[W65]

Well, furry TF porn games are pretty darn rare, and TF's an interesting genre. That said, I'm not a VN person and I'm pretty much only in it for the porn, so this isn't really my thing.

Still, the art looks pretty well executed and it sounds like you guys are landing on your feet. Good on you all for finding a niche to fill.

 

[RedPillBlues]

Just to be clear, this project hasn't been in development for 2 years yet, our second anniversary is in March.

Hmmmmmmmm. Anyway as a person who doesn't really care for transformation the game is super lacking at its stage, but I guess you guys don't really care about people outside your niche so that's whatever I guess.

Also just for the record I think the idea of making the MC a Reindeer (I think) is terrible. Of all the animals you could choose, you choose the tentacle dick. Why not a equine or canine? It just had to be the one with the most uninspired penis huh.

 

[Watsup]

View attachment 209843 Hmmmmmmmm. Anyway as a person who doesn't really care for transformation the game is super lacking at its stage, but I guess you guys don't really care about people outside your niche so that's whatever I guess.

Also just for the record I think the idea of making the MC a Reindeer (I think) is terrible. Of all the animals you could choose, you choose the tentacle dick. Why not a equine or canine? It just had to be the one with the most uninspired penis huh.

The first post there was made before the Patreon was live/public, and before the lead dev had hired anyone to help him. It says so right in the post. The only people that were on that Patreon on that point were myself and a couple people that he asked to test to make sure everything was showing up properly.

As for the MC's dick, the MC's transformation is a dream and he'll have several different transformations in other storylines with varying types of dicks, (and as the game features gender tf, vaginas).

 

[RedPillBlues]

The first post there was made before the Patreon was live/public, and before the lead dev had hired anyone to help him. It says so right in the post. The only people that were on that Patreon on that point were myself and a couple people that he asked to test to make sure everything was showing up properly.

But it was still in development right? Just because he hired a team a few months later doesn't mean that's when the game started.

(and as the game features gender tf, vaginas).

Oh boy
that's a slippery slope, I hope you guys make sure that its very easily understood to the player what leads to those routes. Even so far as to give warnings.

What kind of time frame can we expect to see this in? You release a chapter 2-3 months right? However of the 11 romanceable characters MOST of them don't even have chapter 1 done, so in reality if you do all the chapter one it could take a Insane amount of time till we even get to chapter 2 to get to even the ecchi stuff (I don't actually believe the second chapters will have anything worth while art wise). Beyond that chapter 3-4, well I don't want to even think about how long that will take. What exactly is the end game here? I'll be honest, this seems one of those games that will be stuck in a development loop for years, kind of like Dragon Date.

 

[Watsup]

But it was still in development right? Just because he hired a team a few months later doesn't mean that's when the game started.
Oh boy
that's a slippery slope, I hope you guys make sure that its very easily understood to the player what leads to those routes. Even so far as to give warnings.

What kind of time frame can we expect to see this in? You release a chapter 2-3 months right? However of the 11 romanceable characters MOST of them don't even have chapter 1 done, so in reality if you do all the chapter one it could take a Insane amount of time till we even get to chapter 2 to get to even the ecchi stuff (I don't actually believe the second chapters will have anything worth while art wise). Beyond that chapter 3-4, well I don't want to even think about how long that will take. What exactly is the end game here? I'll be honest, this seems one of those games that will be stuck in a development loop for years, Kkind of like Dragon Date.

Our timeframe is definitely in the 1-2 more years of development range, perhaps a bit more. We should be done well before 2030.

I should clarify since you seem a bit confused, chapter 1 is a shared chapter that the 3 initial relationships all branch off of (and most likely more). Jessie, Marion, and Grace all have a finished chapter 1 (the shared chapter 1 and 2 in the game now. All 3 of their chapter 2's feature explicit content, and as your relationship advances into 3 and 4, they will likely get more open with you (and thus more explicit). We're already working on a chapter 3 for Marion as we speak.

I don't know what warnings we'll be putting in, we have a SFW mode for the game built in already though. That said, our Patreon audience is fairly well aware that we make animal and gender transformation art, we built our audience on top of that content.

I understand a lot of people are just in it for the porn, but we are emphasizing the drama and writing, and the porn fits in where it makes the most sense. The transformation and gender shift elements are also important parts of the writing and themes.

Some of these concepts might be a bit uncommon in the general visual novel sphere (at least the ones I've played), but as has been pointed out - we're being paid a lot of money on Patreon. The people on Patreon are going to support us the most, and because of that, the people on Patreon are who we are making the game for first - that means transformation fans - and we're going to make it the best transformation game we can for them, because that's the audience that's paying for the development.

It'll be available for other people when it's done, and we will probably listen to feedback about elements that we can easily change - warnings being a good example. We don't want anyone buying a game that has content they don't like, and the final game will probably have polarizing content in it, I'm fairly positive of that.

 

[aessir]

I love games that give me multpiple choices like being a good neighbour or being a good neighbour XDDD No really, I'm not one for furry or transformation games, but the story is so well written, you want to know more. That or all the engrish games are taking their toll. Love the art and the story. Good luck with your project.

 

[RedPillBlues]

I should clarify since you seem a bit confused, chapter 1 is a shared chapter that the 3 initial relationships all branch off of (and most likely more). Jessie, Marion, and Grace all have a finished chapter 1 (the shared chapter 1 and 2 in the game now. All 3 of their chapter 2's feature explicit content, and as your relationship advances into 3 and 4, they will likely get more open with you (and thus more explicit). We're already working on a chapter 3 for Marion as we speak.

Its less of being confused and more of a misunderstanding maybe? So I was under the impression that when you decide to add the other characters you would have to add their intro onto chapter 1. So do the other 8 romanceable characters not behave like the main girls and have 4 chapters? Are they going to be more of side characters and only appear in the later chapters? Also come on with the "Explicit" stuff, its light ecchi that's only purpose is for sexual tension. It's not a bad thing and I think its essential but lets be real, its just delaying what we really want. Of course there's a certain chapter 2 that's better then the others.

So for the chapter 3 and 4 for each of the main girl, how much content can we expect to actually see for each girl. One sex scene a chapter or? Personally I hope you can get in at least 3 scenes for each of the main characters. With how much story and build up there is so far (Which is fantastic by the way, your writer is very talented) it would be sad to see the lack of art bring the project down.

 

[Watsup]

Its less of being confused and more of a misunderstanding maybe? So I was under the impression that when you decide to add the other characters you would have to add their intro onto chapter 1. So do the other 8 romanceable characters not behave like the main girls and have 4 chapters? Are they going to be more of side characters and only appear in the later chapters? Also come on with the "Explicit" stuff, its light ecchi that's only purpose is for sexual tension. It's not a bad thing and I think its essential but lets be real, its just delaying what we really want. Of course there's a certain chapter 2 that's better then the others.

So for the chapter 3 and 4 for each of the main girl, how much content can we expect to actually see for each girl. One sex scene a chapter or? Personally I hope you can get in at least 3 scenes for each of the main characters. With how much story and build up there is so far (Which is fantastic by the way, your writer is very talented) it would be sad to see the lack of art bring the project down.

Sorry, I may not have explained it well - each of the romances has their own fleshed out chapters, but they may branch off from different points than the main 1st chapter (there may be another hub chapter added later, a secret character may start from another romance's chapter 2, etc).

I'm not sure the difference between explciit and ecchi, I don't come from the VN community, so I don't know the exact terminology for a lot of that stuff (I'm just a lowly furry porn artist with some gave development experience). I do agree with you, that the teasing and story is just to delay what it is you're really after - but I don't agree that it's a bad thing. I think just throwing the porn at you constantly cheapens it, and there are tons of mediums out there to just find regular hentai/furryporn if that's really what you're after. The teasing and buildup to the climax of the porn in the story has always made content more interesting than just quick porn comics.

That's my personal opinion anyway - but I think a lot of people appreciate a well told story that includes porn rather than porn with a cheap story tacked on.

I am not aware of the exact number of sex scenes contained in each chapter release, but I imagine it will vary. We're writing the way each character arrives at sex differently based on their personalities - and the method of transformation ties into that as well, so the number of times they have sex will coincide with that.

We're hoping it will be enough to satisfy the fans, we do feedback polls every couple chapter releases to make sure we're on the right track. Again, because our primary audience is interested in the transformation aspects, we are mostly concerned with getting a satisfying amount of transformation elements into each chapter. Sometimes transformation involves sex, sometimes the transformation stands on its own.

Also thanks for the compliments to our writer, she doesn't get enough praise!

Even on things I might personally disagree with, thanks for the feedback (that goes for anyone reading this) - our lead developer is reading over all of the replies in the thread, we do appreciate hearing from people outside our community. It gives us a different perspective to consider than we normally get.

 

[RedPillBlues]

but I don't agree that it's a bad thing. I think just throwing the porn at you constantly cheapens it, and there are tons of mediums out there to just find regular hentai/furryporn if that's really what you're after. The teasing and buildup to the climax of the porn in the story has always made content more interesting than just quick porn comics.

That's my personal opinion anyway - but I think a lot of people appreciate a well told story that includes porn rather than porn with a cheap story tacked on.

You misread, I said that it isn't bad and that is essential to the story. We agree.

I'll be honest I do lean more to the side of the art matters more then the story to me (I spend too much of my time reading light novels anyway), but they come together. I currently think the pacing were on right now does lean a bit too much to the story side, as there isn't much to reward the player for playing other then the story, but i'm sure that will sort itself out later on.

I understand your commitment to the TF community, however not every single scene has to involve transformation (I mean this in the literal sense).

Even though your project is supposedly halfway through its development I would recommend putting together a roadmap, if you haven't already, and putting it on your Patreon.

 

[Warwhale]

Hope you guys are enjoying the game! To address some of the concerns about development speed:

The game is being developed by 4 employees, 1 full time, 3 part time. 4 employees at about $50k a year split between them.

We have 1 writer, 1 sound engineer, 1 artist, and our lead developer.

The lead developer does all of the coding and writing editing, as well as all of the backgrounds and finishing asset work (taking assets from sketches to fully rendered sprites including shading).

I do characters designs, sketches, asset edits, and a variety of other small roles.

We stream almost all of our work on the game, and streams typically range between 8 and 16 hours a day. While I understand concerns about speed, we produce 1 chapter every 2-3 months. Each chapter we've released has had about 20k written words and 250 images (including around 20 CG's).

Unlike most VN's we fully render all of our sprites and bg's, which increases the time it takes to make each asset by quite a bit. We could cut production time a lot if we stuck to simple shading or flat colored sprites and backgrounds - or used 3d assets to simplify development. When we started the project we asked people what they'd prefer, and people overwhelmingly preferred a higher quality art style and game, even if it took longer.

Though the reason we're successful is most likely because we are developing a VN for a niche audience that doesn't get a lot of content. We felt people would support an ambitious project in our niche if they were offered a chance to, and they did.

We built a reputation for making quality stuff in our community before we started the project, so we didn't have to prove to people that we would be able to do it.

I understand if you think it's a scam, I've been in your situation looking at long development schedules for stuff like this. Our supporters are supporting us for a reason, we stream all of our work, and we're always working.

All that said, if you've got any questions on the game, feel free to ask.

An excellent and reasonable description of things. Your game has terrific art and strong writing. Keep it up please.

 

[Ld.Pentaghast]

I am very much enjoying the game. It's been a while since I played a game like this, in which I care most for the story and decisions that I make and the sexual content is an added bonus. Good job, devs!

 

[evlbruce]

Have to say this is a well made game; the story is well written, sound is great, and the art is good quality.

 

[Watsup]

You misread, I said that it isn't bad and that is essential to the story. We agree.

I'll be honest I do lean more to the side of the art matters more then the story to me (I spend too much of my time reading light novels anyway), but they come together. I currently think the pacing were on right now does lean a bit too much to the story side, as there isn't much to reward the player for playing other then the story, but i'm sure that will sort itself out later on.

I understand your commitment to the TF community, however not every single scene has to involve transformation (I mean this in the literal sense).

Even though your project is supposedly halfway through its development I would recommend putting together a roadmap, if you haven't already, and putting it on your Patreon.

Appeciate it, and the roadmap is an excellent idea, thanks!

 

[MontyKino]

i must be pretty fucked in the head to ignore all three furry girls and get a boner when i look at that fecking horse

 

[Odin Eye Patch]

how do you romance grace ?

 

[Watsup]

how do you romance grace ?

Avoid the pub, don't help Marion, get Hazel treats, make sure you take the treats when you chase Hazel, go to the lake when offered the option, don't open up to Marion.