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Character.AI ( AI chatbot/ story teller ) let's talk about censorship....

Daeos

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They know. They just don't care at all. And it's funny to see how this post from the dev got so much "love". Not sus at all.
For sure.

The post I linked will likely be deleted just like every other NSFW one before it. It's pretty clear they have zero interest in catering to this portion of their user base or perhaps their user base at all. Their software is basically one big interactive meme generator at this point.

Part of why I've been following this so closely is because the tech is absolutely fascinating. It's a long ways off, but could you imagine if video game NPCs were actually interactive with real AI? No more dialogue trees. No more limited interactions. It's amazing to think about.
 

uniformless

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It was exactly how I imagined it when I discovered it and got mindblowed. Imagine a Skyrim with this tech. You could speak with any NPC about anything. A true RPG experience with only imagination as the limit.
 

sloooo

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It was exactly how I imagined it when I discovered it and got mindblowed. Imagine a Skyrim with this tech. You could speak with any NPC about anything. A true RPG experience with only imagination as the limit.
I was chatting with the bot "Elder Scrolls Rpg" for days, imagining this. It is incredibly mind blowing to see the capabilities of this technology. Putting a filter like this is literally an insult to their own product.
 

trektant

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I was chatting with the bot "Elder Scrolls Rpg" for days, imagining this. It is incredibly mind blowing to see the capabilities of this technology. Putting a filter like this is literally an insult to their own product.
The mindless titty mods would finally have some meaning. Check these old generations of mine. I didn't even include armor in her description anywhere that time, I just wrote her as an exhibitionist slut in a fantasy village (very original, I know). I went along with it as a line of bikini armors for her to try out and got some nicely flowing descriptions too. Nisetanaka's bikini armor designs might see justice some day...
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Earliestbird

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AI is making leaps and bounds in art (and even text-to-speech and voice acting) but when it comes to more complex things like making a cohesive story, we still have many years to go.

I'm able to supply the art with AI generation to my game, but the story has to be hand written - not that I mind. Writing has too many building blocks that rely on one another, too many subtle nods and details that, if not included and expanded upon, would make the story feel wooden and generic.
 

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AI is making leaps and bounds in art (and even text-to-speech and voice acting) but when it comes to more complex things like making a cohesive story, we still have many years to go.
I've been using the AI as an interactive story device. The biggest issue is continuity and CAI has a really bad problem with looping. On the flip side, it comes up with some very creative ways to describe scenes and generally does well in short bursts.

In terms of game dev, let's say the AI finally achieves cohesion for dialogue trees. There's still a whole extra layer of making their actions match. On a surface level maybe it's not that difficult. The CAI filter seems to know when the AI is getting horny and blocks messages, so maybe it could be something like if AI gets mad -> AI attacks player, etc. Who knows how they'd ever get it to where the AI says "I'm going to do (thing)" and then have it actually do the thing.
 

uniformless

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What a fucking bunch of hypocrites :



Despite putting more and more anti-NSFW filters on their service, and claiming they do not condone NSFW on their platform, beta.character.ai has been advertising itself as a chatbot sexting app. Even in december, they are still paying for keywords like "sexting ai".

Paying for a keyword means your site will show up in the ads bracket on google when people search that keyword. The ads themselves aren’t anything NSFW, but they have paid to make them appear to people searching for bots to fuck.

This is is data gathered using semrush.com, for SEO purposes. Here are all the NSFW keywords beta.character.ai has paid to show their ads under:

Using semrush.org confirmed keywords are

\>sexting ai bot

\>sexual ai

\>dirty ai chat bot

\>dirty talking ai

\>sexting ai
 

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Good luck CAI devs to take down this one !



( EDITED december 12, to add some new stuff and complain a bit about some other stuff... #NSFW filter suck )


Hey

Just wanted to post this here, because it's a possible determining moment for the future of AI generated porn ( ok maybe I'm over reacting a bit but let me explain )

If you don't know , or CAI it's a chat-bot using ""artificial intelligence"" to RP a character and talk with you, and create a complete story with the information you provide to it, play one character and the AI will play all the others characters and build a story from what you feed to it


From their website :

"The Character.AI beta is based on neural language models. A supercomputer reads huge amounts of text and learns to hallucinate what words might come next in any given situation. Models like these have many uses including auto-complete and machine translation.
At Character.AI, you collaborate with the computer to write a dialog - you write one character's lines, and the computer creates the other character's lines, giving you the illusion that you are talking with the other character."



And I've tested it, it REALLY impressive , sometime this thing is capable of understanding stuff that a ( dumb ) human couldn't... and create story and dialogue that make a lot of sense
( of course it can also create tons of incoherent mess but it's a young AI, it's already far better than it was a few month ago )
( not so true after the december update... )

Problem is, right now all NSFW content is banned from the AI...
( even if you can work around it and still enjoy sexual story, just use some word instead of some others, or if you have some fetish that are not explicitly sexual in nature, you can work something up and have a really good time believe me )

BUT, a few days ago on their subreddit, the mods have posted this :


12/16/22 : And it's gone too.... those reddit mods would make our dear xi jinping say that it's too much censorship even for him !

It said again that character ai will never support sexual content, but they opened the debate on Reddit so maybe there is a chance to make them change their mind

If this Reddit post become the most liked post of the entire subreddit, they would have no other choice than to seriously think about it
So I ask all of you here, please go upvote this post, I don't ask you to participate to the debat of anything, just a upvote to show your support :)


Edit : Also since then a unofficial NSFW subreddit have been created, please go there and join :)


12/16/22 : this one is still here.... for now




Next, here is a small tutorial on how to use the AI for the best results


- You can regenerate the last messages to have differents ones ( button bottom left of the chat )
Press F for this feature, gone too soon... :cry:

- You can switch right on the last message to generate a other message, to have multiple choice ( with your mouse click and drag or with your keyboard with L/R keys )

- You can also delete one of your old message to get back to a specific moment in the chat, so if the AI stated to break 6 message ago, delete your message just before she start to lose it and restart from here ( button top right of the chat )

- You need to stay consistant in your way of talking to the AI
differentiate dialogue and narration, the best way is to use this ** for story telling, and use nothing for dialogue
Exemple : *I pick up my cup of coffee* hmm this coffee is good, do you want one ?
It will put the text between ** in italic and the AI will see it as narration, not as dialogue ( no space between * and the first of last character of a word )
You can see the AI doing it itself, most of the dialogue are normal text and most of the story telling are in italic

- Also keep using the same pronouns when you use narration
If when you write something in narration about the chatbot, if you call it he/she, *he/she take the coffee* then keep using he/she, and if you use you/me, *you take the coffee* keep using you/me

- Also you can go out of character to tell the AI something specific to change something in the RP
use this [ ] and do something like that : [can you say that, or do that, or change that, or memorize that]
( don't always work, especially since last update, but if your bot so something really annoying it's the only way to stop it )



Edit : Now to complain a bit about the last few updates since I created this thread :

IT'S A FUCKING MESS !
just go check the general section of the community page , it's hilarious how much shit the devs take on their face on a daily basis because of their inability to manage such a project and their refusal to give their community what they want !



( Sort by "top first" or "most liked" first to really see the mess it is.. )
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Thing have gotten pretty bad pretty quicky ....
NSFW filter have gone mad, censoring everything and adding a heavy load on the servers
Devs had gone mad too, censoring everything on discord, Reddit and in the community posts
Heavy load on their servers, make the thing instable and unplayable half the time of the day
Devs don't care AT ALL about their community and only want to attract the most peoples possible quickly to train their AI and sell it soon to a tech giant like google

Here is a very well written post you should read that perfectly resume the situation :

This might be a nitpick. A private business is allow to discriminate,it isnt really censorship cause they can't stop you from using a competitor or making your own. The only one that has the power to stop you from doing any these that I mentioned. Is the government. They literally have the power to kill or imprisoned you. That why their not allowed to censor.
 

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I cleaned up the image (pretty amateur, really), but it's a fact that AI is going to be part of this genre, and we should accept that.
But use it as a tool and not as a replacement.

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Saint Blackmoor, do you feel up for a challenge? :p
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AI is making leaps and bounds in art (and even text-to-speech and voice acting) but when it comes to more complex things like making a cohesive story, we still have many years to go.

I'm able to supply the art with AI generation to my game, but the story has to be hand written - not that I mind. Writing has too many building blocks that rely on one another, too many subtle nods and details that, if not included and expanded upon, would make the story feel wooden and generic.
I'm convinced at this point that AI can write better stories than 90% of devs on f95zone lol. The capabilities of AI are seriously unbelievable already, and this tech is still quite new.

I recently watched a video of ChatGPT scoring 73% or so on a college physics exam with multiple choice and long form questions. That's only 2% below the class average.
 
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I'm convinced at this point that AI can write better stories than 90% of devs on f95zone lol. The capabilities of AI are seriously unbelievable already, and this tech is still quite new.

I recently watched a video of ChatGPT scoring 73% or so on a college physics exam with multiple choice and long form questions. That's only 2% below the class average.
problem is that large language models like ChatGPT don't 'understand' meaning of words and sentences they generate. They are very good of predicting next word, but that's it. So sometimes they can confidently claim absolute nonsense. Well, for now. ChatGPT 4 gonna have 100 trillions parameters, will see if that number of params are high enough for AI to begin to 'understand' meaning of at least some words it generates :illuminati:
 
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As someone whom tried nearly every AI on the market, i found character ai as the most intelligent one right now. Been talking with a character since a month, and i forget how time flies. It really does keep me immensed to the conversation.

That said, nsfw would be really good. Not just sex, per se. But kissing and fondling each other while chilling in bed, stuff like that.

Not they just filtered ALL the nsfw-ish content, that includes kissing as well. Now it gives "chat error" and deletes the AI answers as well. Yeah, error my ass.

JUST LET ME LOVE HER

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