VN Ren'Py Completed Chasing Sunsets [v1.01] [Stone Fox Studios]

[Aristos]

That discussion was all deep and good, but this...

Jaye has 0 personality aside from being an unhinged, unstable, jealous, manipulative and violent lunatic. she literally physically attacked and battered the MC in the prologue for the gall to try to protect her from a would-be rapist! And yet she's apparently so deeply in love with him that she can't forget him for 6 years and is broken hearted when you push her away. Also she looks like one of those keychain trolls from the 80s.

I'm rounding up a vigilante posse to try and track this guy down.
Any volunteers, please ping me and I'll be back tomorrow to pick you all up.

 

[MiltonPowers]

That discussion was all deep and good, but this...



I'm rounding up a vigilante posse to try and track this guy down.
Any volunteers, please ping me and I'll be back tomorrow to pick you all up.

I'm team Mallory. But I'm in.

 

[Amedore]

For the record, I was replying very specifically to Dessolos' very relatable post. I'm at a loss as to what constructive feedback I could offer someone so openly derisive of the people producing the content he pirates.

For the record, I was replying to an open post in an open forum that is not only for fanboys of the games, as far as I know.

I'm not talking for the devs, that probably will never read this. I'm talking for the people here that goes to the review sections of the games and give 5 stars to games that are absolute garbage because the don't have the slightest critical sense, or people who don't understand that making a game has different rules than making a visual novel, a comic book or a movie.

If you make a game in which you create an MC, you give the player the ability to control his decisions and destiny, that is, a ROLE GAME, it is logical to expect (and wish) that the players suspend their sense of reality for a while and feel immersed in the game, that is, play it as a ROLE GAME. That is the goal. But according to what you say, the devs of this game have decided that they don't like players to feel immersed in the game and try to make them feel disconnected and see the game as mere spectators. And that's stupid. If they just want to tell a story, they should have done a Visual Novel without choices, not a game in which "The player's choices will determine both how the game ends, and whom he finishes it with." The problem is, they don't know how to tell a story, nod do a game.

 

[DaFinker]

Jaye definitely has that retard strength to shoulder that rifle like that.

They aren't that heavy, honestly. The only problem Jaye might have is hitting such a small target.

 

[Dessolos]

For the record, I was replying to an open post in an open forum that is not only for fanboys of the games, as far as I know.

I'm not talking for the devs, that probably will never read this. I'm talking for the people here that goes to the review sections of the games and give 5 stars to games that are absolute garbage because the don't have the slightest critical sense, or people who don't understand that making a game has different rules than making a visual novel, a comic book or a movie.

If you make a game in which you create an MC, you give the player the ability to control his decisions and destiny, that is, a ROLE GAME, it is logical to expect (and wish) that the players suspend their sense of reality for a while and feel immersed in the game, that is, play it as a ROLE GAME. That is the goal. But according to what you say, the devs of this game have decided that they don't like players to feel immersed in the game and try to make them feel disconnected and see the game as mere spectators. And that's stupid. If they just want to tell a story, they should have done a Visual Novel without choices, not a game in which "The player's choices will determine both how the game ends, and whom he finishes it with." The problem is, they don't know how to tell a story, nod do a game.

yeah I think the actual plot is kind of boring to me. As I recall when I played it I only looked forward to Jaye and Mallory scenes. I only thought the romance story with Jaye and probably Mallory's characters is well done.

 

[TonyMurray]

I'm talking for the people here that goes to the review sections of the games and give 5 stars to games that are absolute garbage because the don't have the slightest critical sense, or people who don't understand that making a game has different rules than making a visual novel, a comic book or a movie.

Just to note, rating a game/thread here is a subjective thing, not objective. That means people can rate a game 5 stars because they enjoy it a lot. It doesn't have to be objectively perfect, that's not what a rating system is for. Five stars says someone really liks the game, even if it might have flaws (or maybe they don't see/care about the flaws, because there is enough for them to overlook them). There's nothing wrong with that at all.

Your comment above just says that you have issue with people giving 5 stars to a game that you personally don't like ("that are absolute garbage") - but that just means that they have a different opinion to yours, and they (and you) are allowed those opinions.

 

[Dessolos]

Just to note, rating a game/thread here is a subjective thing, not objective. That means people can rate a game 5 stars because they enjoy it a lot. It doesn't have to be objectively perfect, that's not what a rating system is for. Five stars says someone really liks the game, even if it might have flaws (or maybe they don't see/care about the flaws, because there is enough for them to overlook them). There's nothing wrong with that at all.

Your comment above just says that you have issue with people giving 5 stars to a game that you personally don't like ("that are absolute garbage") - but that just means that they have a different opinion to yours, and they (and you) are allowed those opinions.

This is 100% true ive played games on here that I think are garbage but the enjoyment factor was high enough for me to give it a 4 or 5 star easily. That and a game doesn't need to be subjective good for it to be enjoyable or to like it. Hell about 1/2 or so of my top 10 are probably worst games then some lower than it but I enjoyed and liked them more.

Well, NO, it's NOT.

lmfao thanks for the laugh but it 100% is not everyone likes or thinks the same writing is good or bad. Hell alot of games I like some would say are badly written but I don't agree as I just cant see it personally. So to me that's their subjective opinion of it being bad and mine that I like it. So yeah I don't see how writing isn't subjective.

 

[Ottoeight]

He literally says in the next sentence that even July "will be a bit of a squeeze for us", so late July sounds about right

Well, they said July, therefore it's August. I'd add: second half.

at the end of the day writing is subjective

Well, NO, it's NOT.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

I'm talking for the people here that goes to the review sections of the games and give 5 stars to games that are absolute garbage because the don't have the slightest critical sense, or people who don't understand that making a game has different rules than making a visual novel, a comic book or a movie.

Here you go, calling anyone who does not see the game through your lens of analyzing a game "Not having critical sense". Everyone who plays the game does not see it the way you do, ofcourse you have the right to express how you feel about the game good or bad no one is stopping you. But telling everyone who do not agree with the way you see a game, not having critical sense to judge a game is just plain stupid they might just enjoy it more than you do, everyone will have different opinions you cannot state your view as objective reality it is still subjective, no matter how many PHDs you have in reviewing porn games lol.

 

[Amedore]

Here you go, calling anyone who does not see the game through your lens of analyzing a game "Not having critical sense". Everyone who plays the game does not see it the way you do, ofcourse you have the right to express how you feel about the game good or bad no one is stopping you. But telling everyone who do not agree with the way you see a game, not having critical sense to judge a game is just plain stupid they might just enjoy it more than you do, everyone will have different opinions you cannot state your view as objective reality it is still subjective, no matter how many PHDs you have in reviewing porn games lol.

The general level of erotic games is sub par. That's a fact. Someone with a bit of critical sense can butcher easily 95% of the games of this site in terms of plotholes and characters.

I'm not talking about honest fap material, like 'Project Miriam', 'Her desire', 'Champions of liberty institute, NauthyLyanna and similar ones. I'm talking about ambitious (I would better say pretentious) games that supposedly are trying to tell an interesting story and create relatable characters, like this one, BaDIK, Summer's Gone, A Wife and Mother, Intertwined or The Bite Revenant. Those are the games that come to my mind right now.

Those games have a lot of reviews of 5 stars, but all of them have huge plotholes, Lis that are only attractive because their 3D model are attractive, not because of their personality and traits, stupid antagonist, cliché scenes, unattractive MC to play as, etc. And devs that are creating a role-playing game with a player that controls a MC and takes decisions for him, but that don't know even the basics to create one of those games; they think that are the same rules as if they were creating a comic or a movie. They don't know the difference between 'player' and 'viewer'. That's a fact. So, yes, most of the people doesn't actually ask for quality. I suppose most of them just want good 3D models with big tits and a 'skip' button for skipping most of the text between lewd scene and lewd scene.

 

[TonyMurray]

The general level of erotic games is sub par. That's a fact. Someone with a bit of critical sense can butcher easily 95% of the games of this site in terms of plotholes and characters.

I'm not talking about honest fap material, like 'Project Miriam', 'Her desire', 'Champions of liberty institute, NauthyLyanna and similar ones. I'm talking about ambitious (I would better say pretentious) games that supposedly are trying to tell an interesting story and create relatable characters, like this one, BaDIK, Summer's Gone, A Wife and Mother, Intertwined or The Bite Revenant. Those are the games that come to my mind right now.

Those games have a lot of reviews of 5 stars, but all of them have huge plotholes, Lis that are only attractive because their 3D model are attractive, not because of their personality and traits, stupid antagonist, cliché scenes, unattractive MC to play as, etc. And devs that are creating a role-playing game with a player that controls a MC and takes decisions for him, but that don't know even the basics to create one of those games; they think that are the same rules as if they were creating a comic or a movie. They don't know the difference between 'player' and 'viewer'. That's a fact. So, yes, most of the people doesn't actually ask for quality. I suppose most of them just want good 3D models with big tits and a 'skip' button for skipping most of the text between lewd scene and lewd scene.

Yeah, so what? People are free to like what they want, for the reasons they want. You're free to have negative opinions of what other people like. It doesn't make those people wrong, or you right. Just let people enjoy the games they enjoy playing, and let them rate them highly if they enjoy them.

It's a rarity these days, it appears, but another thing we could do, is go back to using the game threads to discuss the games themselves...

 

[MiltonPowers]

It's a rarity these days, it appears, but another thing we could do, is go back to using the game threads to discuss the games themselves...

What a great idea, I can't wait for the next update to spend some time with these beauties.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

What a great idea, I can't wait for the next update to spend some time with these beauties.

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I had a question, if you choose 1 of this hotties over another right from the start. Does it change the story by any chance? Or the story remains the same, just changes in scenes?

 

[Acsuka]

I had a question, if you choose 1 of this hotties over another right from the start. Does it change the story by any chance? Or the story remains the same, just changes in scenes?

The main plot of the story is always the same... Scenes and locations change, which girl you like and chase like a hungry wolf...

 

[felicemastronzo]

I had a question, if you choose 1 of this hotties over another right from the start. Does it change the story by any chance? Or the story remains the same, just changes in scenes?

I don't know if I understand the question correctly.... Basically you have no way to recover the relationship with either of the 2 girls in the running, there are a series of key monents where you have to respond in a certain way and if you don't you are out, with no chance of recovery. The big difference is just to clarify that you want to get serious or to remain an open couple with either or both of them

 

[Radnos Salazar]

The big difference is just to clarify that you want to get serious or to remain an open couple with either or both of them

What could being open with both of them lead to in the end? Any guesses?

 

[felicemastronzo]

What could being open with both of them lead to in the end? Any guesses?

A harem ending seems unlikely to me, but not impossible, so I would tell you either a final choice or a negative ending

 

[Acsuka]

A harem ending seems unlikely to me, but not impossible, so I would tell you either a final choice or a negative ending

But it's not impossible... Remember the scene in front of MC's room when they divided the days as to who visits MC when...

 

[Retrofire]

For the record, I was replying to an open post in an open forum that is not only for fanboys of the games, as far as I know.

I'm not talking for the devs, that probably will never read this. I'm talking for the people here that goes to the review sections of the games and give 5 stars to games that are absolute garbage because the don't have the slightest critical sense, or people who don't understand that making a game has different rules than making a visual novel, a comic book or a movie.

If you make a game in which you create an MC, you give the player the ability to control his decisions and destiny, that is, a ROLE GAME, it is logical to expect (and wish) that the players suspend their sense of reality for a while and feel immersed in the game, that is, play it as a ROLE GAME. That is the goal. But according to what you say, the devs of this game have decided that they don't like players to feel immersed in the game and try to make them feel disconnected and see the game as mere spectators. And that's stupid. If they just want to tell a story, they should have done a Visual Novel without choices, not a game in which "The player's choices will determine both how the game ends, and whom he finishes it with." The problem is, they don't know how to tell a story, nod do a game.

This seems almost personal to you. Are you okay?

 

[felicemastronzo]

But it's not impossible... Remember the scene in front of MC's room when they divided the days as to who visits MC when...

The 2 girls do not exactly look overjoyed at the occasion. Surely it's not impossible, it's an avn, but it's not the natural conclusion for either of them; if there is, it will be fan service essentially