El Pene Del Diablo

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I was a comic kid growing up. still kinda am now. I've seen a lot of crazy fem fatale's and villians just plain crazy-ho's. but I dont think I ever saw any of them exhibit THIS level of pure machiavellian joy at executing their shenanigans!

10/10 would take over the world with her.
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The reason why people are annoyed is because the choices don't make logical sense. If you're going to push for certain gatekeeping choices to reach certain paths related to who characters end up with, those choices should be a consistent build up.

Polyamory isn't something you just flick a switch on. It's not some BS 'kink' that you can create a situation where one person goes 'Hey, I love this person a lot, and since I do, I'm going to suggest polyamory to him' like Jaye does. And it's definitely not something that someone just randomly agrees to like Mallory does. It’s not fucking anal or bondage, FFS.

In RL, the way polyamory happens with monogamous people is exactly how the so called 'open relationship' path goes. The people involved literally fall in love with the same person, who is completely honest and open about the fact that they are poly, and then decide that having a part of someone they love intensely is better than having nothing at all.

In this story, you only get a unicorn ending (it’s not a ending of the girls aren’t of equal status) if you commit fully to one girl. There is absolutely no wiggle room at all…it starts back when the MC is checking out the girls topless on the boat deck, because you need that extra “love point” to push you over the edge to get the bet on red (Jaye loves you enough to explore with Mallory) or bet on black (Mallory loves you and Amanda) achievements.

In other words, so called polyamory becomes a reward for being completely monogamous, which is exactly the opposite of what anyone should expect. I’m all good with making it difficult to achieve, but my theory is that they realised that most people had managed to get the real throuple path (both being in an open relationship) and instead of making it so that Jaye and Tara were a thing with enough love/trust points, with Tara being the unicorn (which would make sense narratively), they instead ditched that ending and shifted the Jaye/Mallory ending over to Jaye’s path.

 
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allanl9020142

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Damn. I always just thought this would be another one of those VNs that are never completed and just have never-ending dev cycles. (To be fair, I haven't played in a while because I was waiting for the updates to build up so I have no idea in which direction the story went.)

Congratulations!
 

ename144

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Sep 20, 2018
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The reason why people are annoyed is because the choices don't make logical sense. If you're going to push for certain gatekeeping choices to reach certain paths related to who characters end up with, those choices should be a consistent build up.

Polyamory isn't something you just flick a switch on. It's not some BS 'kink' that you can create a situation where one person goes 'Hey, I love this person a lot, and since I do, I'm going to suggest polyamory to him' like Jaye does. And it's definitely not something that someone just randomly agrees to like Mallory does. It’s not fucking anal or bondage, FFS.

In RL, the way polyamory happens with monogamous people is exactly how the so called 'open relationship' path goes. The people involved literally fall in love with the same person, who is completely honest and open about the fact that they are poly, and then decide that having a part of someone they love intensely is better than having nothing at all.

In this story, you only get a unicorn ending (it’s not a ending of the girls aren’t of equal status) if you commit fully to one girl. There is absolutely no wiggle room at all…it starts back when the MC is checking out the girls topless on the boat deck, because you need that extra “love point” to push you over the edge to get the bet on red (Jaye loves you enough to explore with Mallory) or bet on black (Mallory loves you and Amanda) achievements.

In other words, so called polyamory becomes a reward for being completely monogamous, which is exactly the opposite of what anyone should expect. I’m all good with making it difficult to achieve, but my theory is that they realised that most people had managed to get the real throuple path (both being in an open relationship) and instead of making it so that Jaye and Tara were a thing with enough love/trust points, with Tara being the unicorn (which would make sense narratively), they instead ditched that ending and shifted the Jaye/Mallory ending over to Jaye’s path.

For the most part I agree with you. I don't think the devs changed their mind at the last moment, though.

I think they always intended to punish "greedy/manwhore" behavior and reward loyalty, it's just that they used a very crude heuristic to make that determination. They figured greedy playthroughs would jump at the open relationship while loyal ones would bite the bullet and call things off with Mallory - because that's no less than Jaye deserves. They didn't think through the details, like how players might view those options in a different light and thus make choices out of line with the dev's broad categorization of their motivations.

They basically copied the form of those old secret tests of character (the ones where you need to turn down a reward in order to get it), and thus treated the throuple like a reward to be earned rather than an inter-character conundrum to be resolved.
No surprise the resulting characterizations can be wildly inconsistent.
 
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So anyone know if DarkAssassin's gallery mod is updated for this release? Nothing on the post suggests so, but I've seen plenty of times where it either works with all further updated versions, or they just don't update the notations.
 

cartcurt

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Finished the game and loved it but it ended too quickly. Hope it will have sequel.
I tried open rel route in the end credit, it says for Mal that I am ex ?... Where is the trick? Or is this the open route?
 

Skylaroo

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well yeah considering the outcomes seem ass backwards.
go monogamous and you can pulla throuple.
This is factually untrue. I went monogamous and got solo Jaye ending no problem. The reason you got throuple is because you kept on flirting with Mallory too. If you want to be monogamous, then be monogamous and not flirt with others. Don't be wanting high relationship points with Mallory and then be upset that the high relationship points mean that she wants to be with MC. That's consequence of your choices.
 
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So just finished playing through all my different save files.
1) Throuple playthrough - Mal dumps me, but Jaye offers throuple and I agree, but then only Jaye is in the bar at the end.
2) Mal only playthrough (also Mal and Amanda) - Mal stays with me, Only Mal in the bar. (Makes sense)
3) Jaye only playthrough (NOTE absolutely no shenanigans with Mal) - Jaye offers throuple anyway (why???) - then BOTH Jaye and Mal in the bar at the end??? Why was Mal in the bar too in this ending, but not in the other endings where you accept the throuple offer from Jaye?

The epilogues have got some heavy lifting to do.
 

Nezron

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This has some really gorgeous women in it, And you do get to have sex with a good share of them. But the game for me was unsatisfying. Because all the girls are just flings, the only 2 girls that matter are Jaye and Mallory. And you only get 1 of them.

At the end of the game there are so many unanswered questions about the other girls. This would have been my favorite game if it had a Harem ending.

Well now that the game is finished, time to find something else.

the ending was meh.
peace
 
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Dr. Mick

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So just finished playing through all my different save files.
1) Throuple playthrough - Mal dumps me, but Jaye offers throuple and I agree, but then only Jaye is in the bar at the end.
2) Mal only playthrough (also Mal and Amanda) - Mal stays with me, Only Mal in the bar. (Makes sense)
3) Jaye only playthrough (NOTE absolutely no shenanigans with Mal) - Jaye offers throuple anyway (why???) - then BOTH Jaye and Mal in the bar at the end??? Why was Mal in the bar too in this ending, but not in the other endings where you accept the throuple offer from Jaye?

The epilogues have got some heavy lifting to do.
Yeah, almost seems like a coding error. As though the two ending options for Jaye got swapped somehow.

This has some really gorgeous women in it, And you do get to have sex with a good share of them. But the game for me was unsatisfying. Because all the girls are just flings, the only 2 girls that matter are Jaye and Mallory. And you only get 1 of them.

At the end of the game there are so many unanswered questions about the other girls. This would have been my favorite game if it had a Harem ending.

Well now that the game is finished, time to find something else.

the ending was meh.
peace
It's entirely possible the epilogue will give more info about what happened with all the rest of the characters. Likely to be worth checking out if you're looking for more on the other ladies of the game, and potential closure for some of the side story points.

Though this might be the last of the main story chapters, it seems the epilogue will be relied upon to actually conclude the story.
 
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Berlioz-7

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So just finished playing through all my different save files.
1) Throuple playthrough - Mal dumps me, but Jaye offers throuple and I agree, but then only Jaye is in the bar at the end.
2) Mal only playthrough (also Mal and Amanda) - Mal stays with me, Only Mal in the bar. (Makes sense)
3) Jaye only playthrough (NOTE absolutely no shenanigans with Mal) - Jaye offers throuple anyway (why???) - then BOTH Jaye and Mal in the bar at the end??? Why was Mal in the bar too in this ending, but not in the other endings where you accept the throuple offer from Jaye?

The epilogues have got some heavy lifting to do.
How did you get Jaye and Mallory to both be with you? I restarted a playthrough focusing on their points only and I still get Jaye as the primary and Mal decides to cut it off and then it's Jaye solo until the end.
 
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