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Hi, new player about to do a first-time playthrough, I'd like to know (now that the game is complete) if I need the incestpatch or not. I've seen some users say it messes the story up but I'm operating blind here since some devs uses "step" to dodge patreon policies etc.
The so-called "incest patch" for this game is a non-sensical aberration. The only thing remotely resembling incest in this game is the fact that MC and Jaye are stepsisters. Like, it's literally the whole premise of the game, the story builds on that, and it makes absolutely zero fucking sense to change that to real-blood siblings, you'll understand why when you play the game...
 
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I'm not sure how such things apply to clones... There was such a thing in the game "My Dorm" but the whole thing with clones was invented to get around the rules of Patreon, well considering the game is still on Patreon it is not considered incest :LOL:

But if we talk seriously, you need to have knowledge of genetic engineering and biology to give the right answer. Maybe in such cases something changes in the body, which is why it is no longer considered incest.
In my opinion, the real discriminator is that Jaye lived as mc's sister, while Mallory was never familiar with him. Otherwise they would really be homologous cases.

Science only cares about possible genetic problems
 
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The so-called "incest patch" for this game is a non-sensical aberration. The only thing remotely resembling incest in this game is the fact that MC and Jaye are stepsisters. Like, it's literally the whole premise of the game, the story builds on that, and it makes absolutely zero fucking sense to change that to real-blood siblings, you'll understand why when you play the game...
Appreciate the response, will go forward without it
 

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So game devs should (SHOULD, not MUST) want to make their games attractive to the most people in their target demographic as possible. That's just a good business strategy.

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We both played a completed rev of Chasing Sunset.

I enjoyed my first playthrough of CS and I'm looking forward to other playthroughs while you are less enthused about future playthroughs for reasons stated in your other posts.

Dev choice at the time of creation - Kinetic novel -- Y/N = devs chose 'no' here.

CS does not have the kinetic novel tag, typically meaning that there are some choices that impact characters in the AVN through time, potentially creating different player experiences based on those choices.

The CS devs created a deeper AVN where choices have consequences and some of those closed off relationships with certain people and some choices resulted in different endings.

Each of us got to decide how to play the MC which created different stories for different choices.

You cannot get a choice-based story where your choices are supposed to matter and create different paths while still expecting that all paths will be shown in the same playthrough.

That is not how this type of AVN works.

If your #1 focus is to be able to enjoy everything in an AVN in one playthrough, choose only AVNs with the Kinetic Novel tag.

To your point above about devs - if I want a deep military simulation, I do not play Monopoly, I play Hearts of Iron III Black Ice rev or Total War.

Different creations Are designed to appeal to different groups of people, and some creations are more niche than others.

If a story is good enough, I am fine with enjoying a kinetic novel type of AVN.

There are times, though, when I want a Different kind of AVN - one where my choices have meaningful impact - and CS is one of those AVNs.

I accept that part of the price I pay for my choices is that I get to play one path at a time and I may miss interesting renders/animations/relationships because of those choices - which is what prompts me to play other paths.

I think you will be challenged to find choice-based AVNs where you feel like those choices are truly meaningful while not impacting the 'all paths at once' playthrough you seem to desire.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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Speaking of incest. With Jaye, the problem was hidden with the possibly incorrect test. But what about Mallory? She is still Sara's clone. In fact, they still joke about it...
I'm not sure how such things apply to clones... There was such a thing in the game "My Dorm" but the whole thing with clones was invented to get around the rules of Patreon, well considering the game is still on Patreon it is not considered incest :LOL:

But if we talk seriously, you need to have knowledge of genetic engineering and biology to give the right answer. Maybe in such cases something changes in the body, which is why it is no longer considered incest.
In my opinion, the real discriminator is that Jaye lived as mc's sister, while Mallory was never familiar with him. Otherwise they would really be homologous cases.

Science only cares about possible genetic problems
The pretty weird part is that Patreon DOES consider steps as incest. Guess they don't have rules about clones.
BTW would a clone of someone but made opposite sex be incest or masturbation?
All the reactionary bans don't really care about the genetics. They care about the familial relationship and the fact that in some jurisdictions it's illegal. But mostly they care because certain loud groups have done publicity campaigns against it.

Human clones don't actually exist at present. So no one's campaigning or making laws against depicting clonecest. :ROFLMAO:
 

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All the reactionary bans don't really care about the genetics. They care about the familial relationship and the fact that in some jurisdictions it's illegal. But mostly they care because certain loud groups have done publicity campaigns against it.

Human clones don't actually exist at present. So no one's campaigning or making laws against depicting clonecest. :ROFLMAO:
Thus, however, Jaye should continue to be a problem. Let's say that CS was lucky not to have attracted the wrong kind of attention.
 
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Science only cares about possible genetic problems
I recon that in the future where the human cloning is possible, gene editing will be a thrifle. That will allow to avoid any possible genetic problems from incest.

In fact, now we at the early stages of both technologies already and only moral principles do not allow to apply them to humans.

So, if they were able to successfully clone Mallory in the game universe, I'm sure they would be able to either fix any potential genetic problems arising from her having baby with the MC, or at least predict them well in advance.

We both played a completed rev of Chasing Sunset.

I enjoyed my first playthrough of CS and I'm looking forward to other playthroughs while you are less enthused about future playthroughs for reasons stated in your other posts.

Dev choice at the time of creation - Kinetic novel -- Y/N = devs chose 'no' here.

CS does not have the kinetic novel tag, typically meaning that there are some choices that impact characters in the AVN through time, potentially creating different player experiences based on those choices.

The CS devs created a deeper AVN where choices have consequences and some of those closed off relationships with certain people and some choices resulted in different endings.

Each of us got to decide how to play the MC which created different stories for different choices.

You cannot get a choice-based story where your choices are supposed to matter and create different paths while still expecting that all paths will be shown in the same playthrough.

That is not how this type of AVN works.

If your #1 focus is to be able to enjoy everything in an AVN in one playthrough, choose only AVNs with the Kinetic Novel tag.

To your point above about devs - if I want a deep military simulation, I do not play Monopoly, I play Hearts of Iron III Black Ice rev or Total War.

Different creations Are designed to appeal to different groups of people, and some creations are more niche than others.

If a story is good enough, I am fine with enjoying a kinetic novel type of AVN.

There are times, though, when I want a Different kind of AVN - one where my choices have meaningful impact - and CS is one of those AVNs.

I accept that part of the price I pay for my choices is that I get to play one path at a time and I may miss interesting renders/animations/relationships because of those choices - which is what prompts me to play other paths.

I think you will be challenged to find choice-based AVNs where you feel like those choices are truly meaningful while not impacting the 'all paths at once' playthrough you seem to desire.

Cheers!! :coffee:
You didn't get it at all. The main gripe that people have with this game is not because it has different branches and choices, but because they are counter-intuitive and the endings are underdeveloped.
 
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I recon that in the future where the human cloning is possible, gene editing will be a thrifle. That will allow to avoid any possible genetic problems from incest.

In fact, now we at the early stages of both technologies already and only moral principles do not allow to apply them to humans.

So, if they were able to successfully clone Mallory in the game universe, I'm sure they would be able to either fix any potential genetic problems arising from her having baby with the MC, or at least predict them well in advance.
In the context of CS, there is no point in bothering. They made Amanda immortal....
 

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You didn't get it at all. The main gripe that people have with this game is not because it has different branches and choices, but because they are counter-intuitive and the endings are underdeveloped.
Yeah, getting the Mallory-Jaye throuple is tricky, and not a way one would anticipate or realize in the moment during the story…
Didn’t care about the other possible outcomes… :ROFLMAO:
 

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The same with me. With all this teasing about poly, and "open relationship paths" I was left speechless when Mallory dumped me :ROFLMAO:
Same.
Tried several ways, Jaye dumped me, Mallory dumped me, both dumped me…
I had to consult the detailed walkthrough, and follow the variables backwards…
And I remember thinking huh, I’d have never guessed THAT’S how the throuple happens… :ROFLMAO:
 
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Dev choice at the time of creation - Kinetic novel -- Y/N = devs chose 'no' here.

CS does not have the kinetic novel tag, typically meaning that there are some choices that impact characters in the AVN through time, potentially creating different player experiences based on those choices.
Kinetic novels suck and aren't games at all, any more than movies are books are. If I want something with no choices, I'll watch porn.
 
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The pretty weird part is that Patreon DOES consider steps as incest. Guess they don't have rules about clones.
BTW would a clone of someone but made opposite sex be incest or masturbation?
I dunno but masturbation is incest.......technically ;you fuck yourself, :sneaky: so the clone thing would be an Incestous Masturbation? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Kinetic novels suck and aren't games at all, any more than movies are books are. If I want something with no choices, I'll watch porn.
That's just your personal opinion. People in porn do not have interesting story behind them and they are mostly bad actors. That's why many people come here instead. I guess you are from the generation that prefers games to books, hence your opinion. Still, there are books with hypertext, like multiple choices in AVNs. I guess you just didn't come across of those due to lack of interest.

I, personally, would prefer a well written clean linear story, to a badly written messy "game" with illusion of multiple "choices" any time. Because these aren't real games. You just prefer to travel on the train, with a few available tracks rather than one, but you still cannot get off the tracks, neither you can get off the train. It's all predefined for you as this AVN demonstrates.

You cannot get a satisfactory ending here with Mallory and Amanda, you cannot marry Mallory, you cannot have ending with most of the side girls and you still talking of "choices". Funny that you think that you have a lot of choice, if you ask me.

There's a limit though. To some 1st cousins is OK. 2nd cousins more people consider OK. Anything past that nearly everyone thinks is fine.
I tell you more. A lot of royal families throughout the human history married their sisters in many generations and were perfectly fine. Cleopatra is one of the examples. Inkas is another example. Ancient Persian kings is one more. Only if there are certain bad genes that can multiply due to incest, it rolls downhill pretty fast.
 
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That's just your personal opinion. People in porn do not have interesting story behind them and they are mostly bad actors. That's why many people come here instead. I guess you are from the generation that prefers games to books, hence your opinion. Still, there are books with hypertext, like multiple choices in AVNs. I guess you just didn't come across of those due to lack of interest.
Not interested in the "porn books" - ie the sort of porn women prefer. For a story that isn't such I generally prefer books to movies. Never seen a "hypertext", nor do I even know what it is. As to my generation, I'm smack in the middle of Gen X at 51.
 
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