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Looking at the Poly tips, I feel it's more Jay-centric than balanced.
That's right. On this path you can have two scenes with Mallory. In fact, the entire poly path is aimed at convincing Jay to share you with Mal. And already in the epilogue it rather becomes Throuple than poly or rather it is heading towards it judging by the dialogues
 
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Looking at the Poly tips, I feel it's more Jay-centric than balanced.
Yes I still think it doesn't make sense at all and that the open relationship with both should be the one to get it, and I understand and respect those who posted their reasons and arguments that it does make sense but I still don't see it that way. But it is what it is and it is still one of my favorite games on this site.

Anyway my favorite main story path is still the Mallory one, with or without Amanda, but on the epilogues/endings the one that felt more complete and was the most funny is the poly Jaye+Mal, even if the path to get it makes little sense to me haha.
 

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Looking at the Poly tips, I feel it's more Jay-centric than balanced.
You'd be correct, and Stoya has explained the narrative reasoning for that a bit in Discord.
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It's also been discussed to death here. :ROFLMAO:
That's right. On this path you can have two scenes with Mallory. In fact, the entire poly path is aimed at convincing Jay to share you with Mal. And already in the epilogue it rather becomes Throuple than poly or rather it is heading towards it judging by the dialogues
Minor point of clarification, but a throuple/triad is a form of poly. Poly is a pretty broad term that includes any relationship where one or more members are pursuing two or more romantic relationships with the consent of everyone involved. Jaye essentially was proposing vee poly, but I do agree that it seemed like it might be shifting towards triad/throuple poly in the epilogue. It was not really directly shown to be fully formed though, just heading that way.
Yes I still think it doesn't make sense at all and that the open relationship with both should be the one to get it, and I understand and respect those who posted their reasons and arguments that it does make sense but I still don't see it that way. But it is what it is and it is still one of my favorite games on this site.

Anyway my favorite main story path is still the Mallory one, with or without Amanda, but on the epilogues/endings the one that felt more complete and was the most funny is the poly Jaye+Mal, even if the path to get it makes little sense to me haha.
I haven't seen all the endings, but so far I do agree that the Jaye/Mal poly ending probably feels like the best. To use Stoya's own words, the scenes with both Jaye and Mal practically write themselves because of the way their personalities interact. That said, I like poly endings in general, so might be a bit biased. :p
 
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You'd be correct, and Stoya has explained the narrative reasoning for that a bit in Discord.
It's also been discussed to death here. :ROFLMAO:
And this is the main reason I always preferred Mallory to Jaye, Jaye lack of trust in her lover (that is one of the stats, at least if trust stat is high and near max it should be enough to also trigger the poly path in a both open relationship, but it doesn't really matter how much she trusts the MC) compared with Mallory, Mal is simpler when she gives herself in and I prefer women like that. Jaye is also great but a bit too much drama for my taste, again compared with Mallory.

Edit : I put the Stoya Poly Comments in the quote also, no idea why doesn't appear, probably doesn't work the spoiler boxes on a quote.
 
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Looking at the Poly tips, I feel it's more Jay-centric than balanced.
Yep and that is the biggest problem. Some people will try to argue or explain, that it makes sense, but I will never agree with that and seems like the biggest blight on this game to me.

And if you look at Stoya's comments it feels like he doesn't even consider Mallory in this ending. Like why would Mallory still want to be involved, when you tell her you don't have feelings back in earlier epsiode, its just to help her, she would just accept being a second choice less than nothing, after getting turned down.

So I don't think it fits Jaye, but I feel like itfits Mallory even less in my opinion with how the choices present themselves. As for making it hard to get, that takes the fun out of and just makes it kinetic, if you have to make every choice perfectly, amd at the end of the day we play this games for enjoyment, not to have to be perfect and get everything right. Just my thoughts.
 

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And this is the main reason I always preferred Mallory to Jaye, Jaye lack of trust in her lover (that is one of the stats, at least if trust stat is high and near max it should be enough to also trigger the poly path in a both open relationship, but it doesn't really matter how much she trusts the MC) compared with Mallory, Mal is simpler when she gives herself in and I prefer women like that. Jaye is also great but a bit too much drama for my taste, again compared with Mallory.
I agree. As much as I like Jaye, the chemistry between MC and Mel is just peak. It would be fair if polyamory worked both ways with them. But I understand that it's just not possible from a plot perspective.

PS: The scene with Bandit is simply one of Mallory's best scenes. The developers paid a lot of attention to the character's eyes and looks, which simply conveys their emotions perfectly.
 
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And this is the main reason I always preferred Mallory to Jaye, Jaye lack of trust in her lover (that is one of the stats, at least if trust stat is high and near max it should be enough to also trigger the poly path in a both open relationship, but it doesn't really matter how much she trusts the MC) compared with Mallory, Mal is simpler when she gives herself in and I prefer women like that. Jaye is also great but a bit too much drama for my taste, again compared with Mallory.

Edit : I put the Stoya Poly Comments in the quote also, no idea why doesn't appear, probably doesn't work the spoiler boxes on a quote.
I don't think you can have quotes within quotes on this forum, so whenever you reply to a comment that includes a quote, the quote gets removed.

I will say also that it makes sense to me for Jaye to have a bit more drama and to be slower to rebuild trust, given their history. By comparison, Mallory's relationship with MC is more of a blank slate. She gets the advantage of starting her relationship with a more mature MC and without baggage from growing up together and a previous falling out.
 

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I don't think you can have quotes within quotes on this forum, so whenever you reply to a comment that includes a quote, the quote gets removed.
Well it is not exactly a quote, it is a command between brackets to make a spoiler box but same principle must apply. Thanks for the clarification (y). Also I selected the text and click reply instead of click reply on the post and then delete what I didn't want to be there, and then what was in between the spoiler box brackets was empty, no text hehe so must of been because of that it was "ignored".
 
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Well it is not exactly a quote, it is a command between brackets to make a spoiler box but same principle must apply. Thanks for the clarification (y).
Spoilers work when being quoted, but I did actually put Stoya's comments in a quote box as well. So they were both Spoilers and Quoted, and the Quote tags caused an issue, probably.
 
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I don't think you can have quotes within quotes on this forum, so whenever you reply to a comment that includes a quote, the quote gets removed.

I will say also that it makes sense to me for Jaye to have a bit more drama and to be slower to rebuild trust, given their history. By comparison, Mallory's relationship with MC is more of a blank slate. She gets the advantage of starting her relationship with a more mature MC and without baggage from growing up together and a previous falling out.
Yeah, imagine the size of posts with dozens of replies back and forth because the previous posts are all being quoted... It's annoying some times when you're passing on information, for instance, but I totally understand why the forum works that way!
 
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Yep and that is the biggest problem. Some people will try to argue or explain, that it makes sense, but I will never agree with that and seems like the biggest blight on this game to me.

And if you look at Stoya's comments it feels like he doesn't even consider Mallory in this ending. Like why would Mallory still want to be involved, when you tell her you don't have feelings back in earlier epsiode, its just to help her, she would just accept being a second choice less than nothing, after getting turned down.

So I don't think it fits Jaye, but I feel like itfits Mallory even less in my opinion with how the choices present themselves. As for making it hard to get, that takes the fun out of and just makes it kinetic, if you have to make every choice perfectly, amd at the end of the day we play this games for enjoyment, not to have to be perfect and get everything right. Just my thoughts.
I read Mallory much differently. When she brings up the potential relationship earlier, it's not that she professed her love or something like that and got rejected. IIRC, she essentially says that if they continue with sex, it'll stop being casual and she'll probably develop deeper feelings for MC because the beginnings of them started forming for her. So turning her down there is more along the lines of stopping things before they really get started rather than failing to reciprocate existing love. That's a very different thing compare to Jaye and MC since they have a much, much longer history together, including strong and persistent feelings. Turning Jaye down would be a rejection of her already-existing love. And Mallory isn't ignorant of that difference in dynamic either, or at least she certainly isn't by Chapter 9. MC even tells Mal at the time of the relationship decision that he can't afford to explore any mutual feelings with Mal because of his existing ones for Jaye, and while Mal admits to being a little envious, she also says she understands why he can't.

As for later on, even after stopping having sex to avoid emotional complications, on a poly route MC and Mal's feelings continue to grow since they still spend tons of time together and because MC does things like bringing back her dog and risk his life to save hers. The discussion by the lake at the cabin is essentially an acknowledgment that despite trying to avoid developing feelings, they both nevertheless did. So by saying he wished things were different and eventually proposing poly, it's more an acknowledgment of feelings that developed despite their efforts and a decision to just accept them rather than try to suppress them.
 
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