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VN Ren'Py Cheat or Not [v1.0 Revamped] [Belzeebub]

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What are the genres you are looking for in this novel


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Daddy-S

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I mean, I loves me some cheating and NTR. But lose my boner if it's just incest, ugly ass mom with tig ol bitties or annoying ass sister. I'm down with it as long as there's other girls involved, like a wife or GF. (Wait, do guys who hate NTR because they project themselves into the MC, but also love incest games, really wanna....? Nah nevermind.) My Holy Grail would be an NTR-Harem game where the MC could be cheated on and cucked by ALL the girls. That'd be perfect and I've been looking for it for 4+ years but they always fall short.

Anyway, this game looks like a mess from the comments, I'll check it out later. I have hopes for it and wish the Dev Godspeed.
Why is there always this talk of projecting onto the MC? Did you ever watch a movie? read a book? Do you not get happy or sad or feel anything while watching? Do you not feel the family's loss or the hero's joy? Its called empathy most humans have it, without projecting anything I get immersed in good stories and watching people get hurt, betrayed, used and abused repeatedly is not a good experiance for most normal, sane people.

Nothing at all to do with some kind of projecting onto the mc, do the people I hear say this all the time somehow think people are living vicariously through the mc? somehow believe we are mc? I dont get it, it's such a weird argument.

Oh and btw yes I would fuck the shit out of my sister, not my mom though she old as hell. :cool:
 

Belzeebub$

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Immediate issues:

Renders are stretched vertically. The proportions are completely fubar.

Then comes naming everyone.

There are no default names, so the user has to enter names for every character before discovering anything about their personality that would lead to a name.

Render quality makes potatoes look good.

I'll check back in 3 or 4 releases.
Have you tried the latest chapter? I didn't know I stretched them in chapter 2. Yes, there were issues with renders in the first update.
Yeah I thought about it myself, but saying and doing are 2 different things. First I need to get a "for dummies" book on Python and Renpy, figure out the tricks the Daz gurus do to get good renders that aren't nightmare fuel, and then find an extra few thousand hours to do all that and write the story too (my middle school English teacher handed out extra 1000-word essays as punishment, I can't imagine writing 500-1000x that for fun).
I don't know if you are sarcastic or serious but thanks for understanding. Making a visual novel is not a cup of tea(at least not for me). Would you believe if I say I started with learning(about everything daz to renpy) from February 2024? I only humbly ask for some time for me to be better. Yes, I am new and I am not omniscient, and I can guarantee one thing I will continue this work and not abandon it unless I meet death. If you(not particularly you but everyone) like this you can support me, if not I am sorry it is not to your liking. About ntr, I just gave it a thought, and since I will have to make separate renders for that I dropped the idea. Thank you.
Shame this doesn't have default names... Wonder what everyone used for the names?
I am planning on changing it in next update. I thought people would feel more connected if they name the characters, well I will give default names from the next update. Thank you
 
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Why is there always this talk of projecting onto the MC? Did you ever watch a movie? read a book? Do you not get happy or sad or feel anything while watching? Do you not feel the family's loss or the hero's joy? Its called empathy most humans have it, without projecting anything I get immersed in good stories and watching people get hurt, betrayed, used and abused repeatedly is not a good experiance for most normal, sane people.

Nothing at all to do with some kind of projecting onto the mc, do the people I hear say this all the time somehow think people are living vicariously through the mc? somehow believe we are mc? I dont get it, it's such a weird argument.

Oh and btw yes I would fuck the shit out of my sister, not my mom though she old as hell. :cool:
I think projection is one step beyond just empathy. Ideally we'd have neural links already so we could put our mind into the MC's body Matrix-style but with lack of that for now we tend to do the best we can, it's why NTR is widely hated as under that condition when the MC gets cheated on it feels not much different than when it happens in real life, even though to most outside observers it seems stupid to get pissed off or depressed over AVN cartoons. People self-insert when it comes to porn all the time and have been doing it probably since the first fap to it with cave paintings, eg when the protag is getting a BJ they imagine it's them getting the BJ (or the one sucking the dick if they are a girl jilling off to it).
 
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Have you tried the latest chapter? I didn't know I stretched them in chapter 2. Yes, there were issues with renders in the first update.

I don't know if you are sarcastic or serious but thanks for understanding. Making a visual novel is not a cup of tea(at least not for me). Would you believe if I say I started with learning(about everything daz to renpy) from February 2024? I only humbly ask for some time for me to be better. Yes, I am new and I am not omniscient, and I can guarantee one thing I will continue this work and not abandon it unless I meet death. If you(not particularly you but everyone) like this you can support me, if not I am sorry it is not to your liking. About ntr, I just gave it a thought, and since I will have to make separate renders for that I dropped the idea. Thank you.

I am planning on changing it in next update. I thought people would feel more connected if they name the characters, well I will give default names from the next update. Thank you
Yeah I just name the MC and maybe family members the same as their real life counterparts if it's an incest AVN. Beyond that most find it tedious to name everyone, set ages and relationships, etc. It's why some AVNs that do that people tend to make a mod that automates that task.
 

Belzeebub$

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I want to address this once and for all (if I have not already). The mother is ugly because she is pure evil and you(the player) would understand that in future. Also, she will never be any li(love interest) of the mc. Even though it is incest she is not and will not be involved in any physical activities. So, why is everyone so concerned about her anyways? Have you seen joker in dark knight? Is he beautiful? He has scars on his face. Has anyone questioned that? I don't know what the big deal is. Anyway, the love interests will be far more beautiful than her I can assure you that. Consider the last woman in the episode 2(boss lady/alexa) she will also be a probable li. This is a harem game, if you have not noticed it. If you don't like some girl/woman, leave/reject her. There are several fishes in the ocean. You will like them, give the story some time to build.

Another thing is images/renders being stretched. Yes, they were in only the first version (and only 4-5 renders in bar) the rest are not stretched. The reason is earlier I used to do default renders(for those who know daz it is the active viewport) and apply them after stretching in renpy, after I found out about changing resolution, I changed them. I am new and I am learning. You will have to bear with me for soem time. My novel is not flawless, rather it is far from perfect, I am striving to improve it with each version. I am instructing Mister Player not indulge in these silly questions again and again, and if anyone asks "why is the mother ugly?" Or "why are the images stretched" those will remain unanswered. Thank you.
 
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Belzeebub$

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Will this game have pregnancy and/or impregnation in the future?
Well, not in my plans in near future. Possibly in future. Personally I am a big fan of pregnancy but to be pregnant the mc will have to fuck them right? Lets see what happens. For now, in next 2 episodes (which I have planned to some extent) the players will know the backstory of the mc and also progress with th present story. Thank you for trying the game.
 

YogSothoth1982

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Shame this doesn't have default names... Wonder what everyone used for the names?
For the MC I suppose dsaf or asf or jadkl whatever comes out when hitting the keyboard. For the rest of the characters 1, 2, 3, 4.... like this until the numbers run out or there are no more characters to name.

I want to address this once and for all (if I have not already). The mother is ugly because she is pure evil and you(the player) would understand that in future. Also, she will never be any li(love interest) of the mc. Even though it is incest she is not and will not be involved in any physical activities. So, why is everyone so concerned about her anyways? Have you seen joker in dark knight? Is he beautiful? He has scars on his face. Has anyone questioned that? I don't know what the big deal is. Anyway, the love interests will be far more beautiful than her I can assure you that. Consider the last woman in the episode 2(boss lady/alexa) she will also be a probable li. This is a harem game, if you have not noticed it. If you don't like some girl/woman leave her. There are several fishes in the ocean. You will like them give the story some time to build.
So, can the MC's girlfriend also be included in the harem?
 

Bikinirt

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Well, not in my plans in near future. Possibly in future. Personally I am a big fan of pregnancy but to be pregnant the mc will have to fuck them right? Lets see what happens. For now, in next 2 episodes (which I have planned to some extent) the players will know the backstory of the mc and also progress with th present story. Thank you for trying the game.
Game doesn't work in joiplay pls update then android port
 
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