Ren'Py Completed Ciri Trainer [Ch. 5 v1.0 Beta] [The Worst]

[K9]

From what I saw on the numerous 'lol not incest patreon' games that switched from relatives to step-relatives, the overwhelming reaction to the change from incest fans is that step is not incest. So don't bother with trying to sell Yen/Ciri as 'step-incest'. It's not incest and they won't care.

As for lesbian and straight incest, dunno. 99.9% incest games are son/mother, brother/sister or father/daughter, meaning they have a male protagonist. I know only of one game with a female protagonist and and potential F/F incest, it's 'A wife and mother', and there are like three people cheering for mother/daughter incest in the thread. It seems to be a very niche fetish.

 

[swmas]

From what I saw on the numerous 'lol not incest patreon' games that switched from relatives to step-relatives, the overwhelming reaction to the change from incest fans is that step is not incest. So don't bother with trying to sell Yen/Ciri as 'step-incest'. It's not incest and they won't care.

As for lesbian and straight incest, dunno. 99.9% incest games are son/mother, brother/sister or father/daughter, meaning they have a male protagonist. I know only of one game with a female protagonist and and potential F/F incest, it's 'A wife and mother', and there are like three people cheering for mother/daughter incest in the thread. It seems to be a very niche fetish.

To me if there is only vaginas involved I don't give a shit if it's incest or not. I's all the same.

About Ciri-Yen being daughter-mom, I only played about two chapters of wither 3 and read no book but how much time did they even spent under the same roof? To call them having sex incest sounds far-fetched.

 

[Separin]

About Ciri-Yen being daughter-mom, I only played about two chapters of wither 3 and read no book but how much time did they even spent under the same roof?

They didn't spend much time together, because there wasn't really time to spend "under a roof" in the saga, especially for these characters. They spent like several months together before everything went to shit. Yennefer is still closest to a mother figure in Ciri's story, though, teaching her basics of magic in her young age.

 

[DarkTl]

That's for the answers. We learned a lot about fetishes logic from them

Wasn't that one of the primary reasons you were against Geralt being the MC?

In my opinion, Yen + Ciri relationship is close to Vesemir + Ciri level. Because they barely interacted compared to Ciri + Geralt.
People seem to agree, so far.

 

[swmas]

They didn't spend much time together, because there wasn't really time to spend "under a roof" in the saga, especially for these characters. They spent like several months together before everything went to shit. Yennefer is still closest to a mother figure in Ciri's story, though, teaching her basics of magic in her young age.

Spent a couple a months together = basically mother and daughter.

 

[Separin]

Spent a couple a months together = basically mother and daughter.

Yeah I wasn't making an argument on what constitutes a "mother" because I don't care. I'm just saying: Ciri's real mother died when she was 5, her grandmother died when she was 10, then she was with Geralt for bit, then with Yennefer and so on. Everyone looked after her for only a brief moment, make of it what you will.

 

[swmas]

Yeah I wasn't making an argument on what constitutes a "mother" because I don't care. I'm just saying: Ciri's real mother died when she was 5, her grandmother died when she was 10, then she was with Geralt for bit, then with Yennefer and so on. Everyone looked after her for only a brief moment, make of it what you will.

What was your point then? I was saying it's not incest if they fuck.

 

[Separin]

What was your point then? I was saying it's not incest if they fuck.

I wasn't making a point. You said you don't know how much time they spent together, so I told you. No, Yennefer is not a real mother, Geralt is not a real father. It's not incest. However, as some folks here argue, there are subgenres to "biological incest" everywhere such as with adoptive parents, which Yennefer and Geralt kind of are.

 

[swmas]

I wasn't making a point. You said you don't know how much time they spent together, so I told you. No, Yennefer is not a real mother, Geralt is not a real father. It's not incest. However, as some folks here argue, there are subgenres to "biological incest" everywhere such as with adoptive parents, which Yennefer and Geralt kind of are.

How are they adoptive parents if they are not married and haven't spent more than a few months in the same house with their "child"?

Besides, doesn't she have a real dad? That guy that has a painting of her in a ball dress?

 

[Separin]

How are they adoptive parents if they are not married and haven't spent more than a few months in the same house with their "child"?

Besides, doesn't she have a real dad? That guy that has a painting of her in a ball dress?

Yeah they didn't sign the paperwork and shit, that's why I said they are "kind of" adoptive parents.

Her real dad is that guy, yeah, Emhyr var Emreis. But he's never seen her, which seems to be your qualifying factor.

 

[swmas]

Yeah they didn't sign the paperwork and shit, that's why I said they are "kind of" adoptive parents.

Her real dad is that guy, yeah, Emhyr var Emreis. But he's never seen her, which seems to be your qualifying factor.

The qualifying factors for incest are blood relations, for adoptive families they have to spend a shit load of time together and develop a strong platonic relationship before I can even consider them fucking as incest.

 

[Separin]

The qualifying factors for incest are blood relations, for adoptive families they have to spend a shit load of time together and develop a strong platonic relationship before I can even consider them fucking as incest.

Oh, you are talking about real incest, not porn incest....okaay...

 

[RedPillBlues]

In my opinion, Yen + Ciri relationship is close to Vesemir + Ciri level. Because they barely interacted compared to Ciri + Geralt.
People seem to agree, so far.

Lmao, that has to be the one more worse excuses I've heard on forum. If you've read the novels, which you probably have, you could agree that there's an argument that Yen's relationship with Ciri is stronger then Geralt. "This ones okay because they spent a little less time together, but the one a lot of people want actually isnt."

 

[swmas]

Oh, you are talking about real incest, not porn incest....okaay...

What are we talking about here? What is porn incest?

 

[Separin]

What are we talking about here? What is porn incest?

You know, make-believe. It's not about a shit ton of time spent together. Yennefer, Geralt and Ciri have a strong relationship which wasn't created based on time spent rather than the hard events they had to pull through together. I may have misunderstood your point because in the books there is never time for a household lifestyle or anything else. The saga is basically also a story about a "family" that was deprived the opportunity to be together.

 

[swmas]

You know, make-believe. It's not about a shit ton of time spent together. Yennefer, Geralt and Ciri have a strong relationship which wasn't created based on time spent rather than the hard events they had to pull through together. I may have misunderstood your point because in the books there is never time for a household lifestyle or anything else. The saga is basically also a story about a "family" that was deprived the opportunity to be together.

I guess you have to read the books to see that. All I got from the game is Geraldt kept saying she's like his daughter so the player won't expect to fuck her like the other women.

 

[RedPillBlues]

I guess you have to read the books to see that. All I got from the game is Geraldt kept saying she's like his daughter so the player won't expect to fuck her like the other women.

In the books I don't even ever remember Ciri calling him father, but she calls Yennifer Mom more then once so I mean that says something. In fact she wants her official title to have "Daughter of Yennifer" in it. The relationship with Ciri and Yennifer might not be blood related, but its a lot stronger then most real blood relationships.

 

[swmas]

In the books I don't even ever remember Ciri calling him father, but she calls Yennifer Mom more then once so I mean that says something. In fact she wants her official title to have "Daughter of Yennifer" in it. The relationship with Ciri and Yennifer might not be blood related, but its a lot stronger then most real blood relationships.

That's interesting, I can buy that being incest if they fuck then.

 

[TheWorst]

In the books I don't even ever remember Ciri calling him father, but she calls Yennifer Mom more then once so I mean that says something.

It says Ciri has left Geraldo out even before we did.

 

[Ratnedalu]

What are we talking about here? What is porn incest?

The only technical term I can think of for what he's talking about is "inseki", which is used on H-manga sites like Pururin that indicates non-blood related 'incest'. Inseki literally means "relative by marriage", so stepbrother/stepsister/stepmom/stepdad kinda stuff. When used as a H-manga tag it also refers to literally any non-blood incest, so also adoption.

Basically it's a sort of incest-lite because a lot of porn companies don't want to touch the fetish with a ten foot pole otherwise.

Inseki is somewhat of a fad right now, there is an endless streams of cheap, cheesy "my stepsister did such and such" videos on porn sites currently.