VN Ren'Py Completed City of Broken Dreamers [v1.15.0 Ch. 15] [PhillyGames]

[Leinad_Sevla]

I always assumed Chandy was 18. "Aren't you glad I'm legal now?". Sure I guess she could be older but she seems 18 on the nose to me. I also wish she had an actual ending. She doesn't seem like a main LI to me, unless I missed it somehow.

Edit: I also think it's strange/a bug that you can say "one last time" to her at the end even if you have never even touched her. My solo playthroughs were 100% solo and it still seems like my MC was sleeping with her.

In my opinion, it´s clearly implied in the beginning that the MC and Chandra knew eachother before, but because she wasn´t of legal age, they didn´t do anything sexually. When she ask if we´re happy that she´s legal, she´s likely talking about how they can get sexual now. Also, I always assumed she was going to be a side-girl. Usually you have to work a little to build a relationship with the LI to eventually reach the sex scenes. With Chandra you were already going at it on her first appearance. Didn´t look very LI to me.

I thin the dev assumed everyone had at least fucked her once, hence the "last time" line.

 

[Skeltom]

In my opinion, it´s clearly implied in the beginning that the MC and Chandra knew eachother before, but because she wasn´t of legal age, they didn´t do anything sexually. When she ask if we´re happy that she´s legal, she´s likely talking about how they can get sexual now. Also, I always assumed she was going to be a side-girl. Usually you have to work a little to build a relationship with the LI to eventually reach the sex scenes. With Chandra you were already going at it on her first appearance. Didn´t look very LI to me.

I thin the dev assumed everyone had at least fucked her once, hence the "last time" line.

Assuming and just adding a check for it are very different approaches. If they haven't it makes no sense. They have clearly known each other since she was at least sixteen and before Abby got GDS, so that is a given really. But the sex is optional from the get-go, though she still has a set of scores in the main UI so if she is just a side piece why have her there at all? That's like adding Shanlon or Venus to the list. For that matter does Gloria even have an ending of her own. Someone the MC is inexplicably liked to and the entire story revolves around? I haven't tried a solo of her yet to know.

 

[Sherengroth]

im curious is there a way to end up with all of them?, or is the only choice to choose one adn stick with it?

 

[Skeltom]

im curious is there a way to end up with all of them?, or is the only choice to choose one adn stick with it?

If you sleep with them all you still ultimately have to pick one, (or maybe no one, haven't tried yet) or a very limited set of two depending on your choices during the game. If you are sleeping with them all, and kind of even if you aren't, you can still tell one of the three that you love them at the end if their points are high enough. It's pretty sloppy I think. It just feels like an end game "choose what ending you want" button.

 

[EatYourVegetables]

For that matter does Gloria even have an ending of her own. Someone the MC is inexplicably liked to and the entire story revolves around? I haven't tried a solo of her yet to know.

Just finished first blind playthrough and ended up with Gloria. So can confirm that yes she does have an ending.

 

[Filipis]

If you sleep with them all you still ultimately have to pick one, (or maybe no one, haven't tried yet) or a very limited set of two depending on your choices during the game. If you are sleeping with them all, and kind of even if you aren't, you can still tell one of the three that you love them at the end if their points are high enough. It's pretty sloppy I think. It just feels like an end game "choose what ending you want" button.

Agreed. More casual AVNs can get away with the "date multiple LIs that are okay with you being non-exclusive until the L-bomb is dropped", but CoBD is sold as a more narrative focused adventure - and that kinda implies pursuing a singular LI throughout the story. This isn't a major L, mind you, but yet another strange occurrence in an otherwise great AVN.

 

[EatYourVegetables]

Agreed. More casual AVNs can get away with the "date multiple LIs that are okay with you being non-exclusive until the L-bomb is dropped", but CoBD is sold as a more narrative focused adventure - and that kinda implies pursuing a singular LI throughout the story. This isn't a major L, mind you, but yet another strange occurrence in an otherwise great AVN.

Seems to be a common trope in AVNs, but I find it best solved by just focusing on one from the jump. Definitely makes the story feel more cohesive. For the most part the game doesn't disregard your choices and give you dialogue like you are sleeping with everyone, unlike others I've tried.

 

[cxx]

im curious is there a way to end up with all of them?, or is the only choice to choose one adn stick with it?

no harem.

Just finished first blind playthrough and ended up with Gloria. So can confirm that yes she does have an ending.

and whatta ending it is.

 

[Skeltom]

Seems to be a common trope in AVNs, but I find it best solved by just focusing on one from the jump. Definitely makes the story feel more cohesive. For the most part the game doesn't disregard your choices and give you dialogue like you are sleeping with everyone, unlike others I've tried.

It may not do it often but when it does it's pretty glaring. Again with Chandy you can even tell her its's not happening, ever and you still have the one last time option. And with Shanlon , you can avoid her the whole game and still have a last time option. Or Ellen making a big deal about a kiss in several scenes just to have her say hurry up and kiss me already in another like it's perfectly fine even if the player never has before. Also the after credits scenes that just seem to be last minute fanservice that make no difference whether you are with someone or not and only automatically turning down Venus if the player ends up with Katie but no one else. It gets pretty inconsistent the longer the game goes on.

 

[EatYourVegetables]

It may not do it often but when it does it's pretty glaring. Again with Chandy you can even tell her its's not happening, ever and you still have the one last time option. And with Shanlon , you can avoid her the whole game and still have a last time option. Or Ellen making a big deal about a kiss in several scenes just to have her say hurry up and kiss me already in another like it's perfectly fine even if the player never has before. Also the after credits scenes that just seem to be last minute fanservice that make no difference whether you are with someone or not and only automatically turning down Venus if the player ends up with Katie but no one else. It gets pretty inconsistent the longer the game goes on.

I've only done the one playthrough and tend to do solo paths in games, but I did notice the 2 "final time" mistakes. But just those and one or two minor ones, so there are likely others I missed. In some games you can be on a fully committed relationship path and the game will just forget that for large chunks.

 

[Skeltom]

I've only done the one playthrough and tend to do solo paths in games, but I did notice the 2 "final time" mistakes. But just those and one or two minor ones, so there are likely others I missed. In some games you can be on a fully committed relationship path and the game will just forget that for large chunks.

There is one more with Gloria as well. Even if you tell her it wouldn't be right and never sleep with her you can still say you like being with her more like you, again, have been sleeping with her the whole time. Not to mention if you do that scene then it's pretty graphic for someone who until that time is a virgin.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Assuming and just adding a check for it are very different approaches. If they haven't it makes no sense. They have clearly known each other since she was at least sixteen and before Abby got GDS, so that is a given really. But the sex is optional from the get-go, though she still has a set of scores in the main UI so if she is just a side piece why have her there at all? That's like adding Shanlon or Venus to the list. For that matter does Gloria even have an ending of her own. Someone the MC is inexplicably liked to and the entire story revolves around? I haven't tried a solo of her yet to know.

Did you get that scene with Chandra even without having sex with her? I was just thinking that maybe only the people that fucked her get that scene and line of dialogue, but if you got it without having done anything with her, then you might be right. ITs s small detail, I would think, though.
Yes, Gloria has an ending of her own. Gloria, Ellen, Victoria and Katie get their own endings. Depending on your path, you might have a bad ending with Gloria, which is spicier but not really what is "intended" for you to do, in my opinion.

 

[Skeltom]

Did you get that scene with Chandra even without having sex with her? I was just thinking that maybe only the people that fucked her get that scene and line of dialogue, but if you got it without having done anything with her, then you might be right. ITs s small detail, I would think, though.
Yes, Gloria has an ending of her own. Gloria, Ellen, Victoria and Katie get their own endings. Depending on your path, you might have a bad ending with Gloria, which is spicier but not really what is "intended" for you to do, in my opinion.

If it were just that one then I agree it would be a small detail but there are numerous cases of that. To me it feels like the game was designed to be played where you sleep with everyone just because they are there. The dev doesn't seem to have taken into consideration that not every player will. I think the biggest problem is because it all seems to go by how many points a girl has and not any sex specific variables. It may work on paper but not necessarily in practice.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

If it were just that one then I agree it would be a small detail but there are numerous cases of that. To me it feels like the game was designed to be played where you sleep with everyone just because they are there. The dev doesn't seem to have taken into consideration that not every player will. I think the biggest problem is because it all seems to go by how many points a girl has and not any sex specific variables. It may work on paper but not necessarily in practice.

It might be that. I think most AVN players will always try to get the most scenes when playing, so maybe that´s what the Dev was taking in consideration when writing the script.

 

[cxx]

There is one more with Gloria as well. Even if you tell her it wouldn't be right and never sleep with her you can still say you like being with her more like you, again, have been sleeping with her the whole time. Not to mention if you do that scene then it's pretty graphic for someone who until that time is a virgin.

well even on normal ending with her it's weird, on 1-2 updates from shy virgin to sexmaniac.

 

[Skeltom]

well even on normal ending with her it's weird, on 1-2 updates from shy virgin to sexmaniac.

Not as weird as going from a virgin to having every hole plowed into next Tuesday. It also bugs me that with the exception of Chandy and a little Abby, every LI absolutely loves the feeling of anal sex their very first time... Feels very "porn game".

 

[Filipis]

Not as weird as going from a virgin to having every hole plowed into next Tuesday. It also bugs me that with the exception of Chandy and a little Abby, every LI absolutely loves the feeling of anal sex their very first time... Feels very "porn game".

That is... disappointing to hear. The speculations are probably true then, the dev got tired of rendering and just slapped on the "same" renders for every path you can take to save on time (despite the fact that the duality of said paths doesn't mean twice as much renders per girl, but rather only the path-specific scenes like the lewd scenes), which I hate on principle.

Just hop on over to Bare Witness and look at the praise showering down on the devs for creating a UNIQUE ending (for a total of 11 different epilogues) for each possible LI and combination of LIs.

That is true dedication to the craft right there...

 

[Skeltom]

That is... disappointing to hear. The speculations are probably true then, the dev got tired of rendering and just slapped on the "same" renders for every path you can take to save on time (despite the fact that the duality of said paths doesn't mean twice as much renders per girl, but rather only the path-specific scenes like the lewd scenes), which I hate on principle.

Just hop on over to Bare Witness and look at the praise showering down on the devs for creating a UNIQUE ending (for a total of 11 different epilogues) for each possible LI and combination of LIs.

That is true dedication to the craft right there...

I can't say if it was to cut time but that is exactly how it is. They play in sequence, if you start someone's path later than the beginning you just jump in at the point where you "should be". I felt the ending where, I don't know, uninspired? They didn't feel like true endings to me, more of an afterthought. Just a short introduction with your chosen girl and an extra sex scene before the credits roll.

 

[Darkrider_X]

Now that i see the game has been completed...does one need to download all 3 parts or can they just download part 3 and the other 2 are in the same Rar?

 

[Skeltom]

Now that i see the game has been completed...does one need to download all 3 parts or can they just download part 3 and the other 2 are in the same Rar?

Not sure what you mean by part three but if you are talking about the splits then you need all 4 parts.