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Sparhawker

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dammit, do I really have to chose if I want Katie (which I do) so early and lock out all those other routes...that sucks big time...
I can't see me playing this through to the end and then re-playing from their just to end up with another choice later on to lock out others (and yes I'm only on chapter 12 as I had a pile of other games needing attention)
 

cxx

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dammit, do I really have to chose if I want Katie (which I do) so early and lock out all those other routes...that sucks big time...
I can't see me playing this through to the end and then re-playing from their just to end up with another choice later on to lock out others (and yes I'm only on chapter 12 as I had a pile of other games needing attention)
you can fool around with every1 until ep14 i think.
 

Mike Hunt TG

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Man, some people just can't enjoy anything without whining and bitching. This has been an amazing VN and I am sorry to see it end, but I have to say that it has been very satisfying. I would have read this if it was a book, but then again I love Cyberpunk. Neuromancer is my favorite book and while CoBD is no Neuromancer, it certainly is worthy to be placed in the same spectrum.
 
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Mike Hunt TG

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How stupid is it that the mc never even fights the red moon? Blah blah blah

Whereas the mc is a milquetoast protagonist who is also badly written. If I wasn't playing as the mc I wouldn't give a fuck about his character. Philly majorly dropped the ball to the point where it felt like he didn't really care about the story after a certain point and it was just a means to put more sex scenes in.

Some more nonsense....
I think that is the point - the MC is respected as a Ghost but is not all-powerful. Ever hear of Philip Marlowe? Mike Hammer? Sam Spade? A Ghost is more of a 21st Century PI than a superhero. The Red Moon is a superhero whose raison d'etre has passed on from the world. Henry is a retired superhero whose mission pulls him back into the world, but this is not a world of superheroes. It is a cyberpunk world of mercs and netrunners who are mere mortals with some amazing skills.

If the MC fought the Red Moon he would get his ass instantly handed to himself and probably killed. Then you would get a "Game Over" message and really be whining.
 

RetroGuy

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If the MC fought the Red Moon he would get his ass instantly handed to himself and probably killed. Then you would get a "Game Over" message and really be whining.
Notice that there is some serious inconsistency about Red Moon power in the story.
At some moment he needs to be delayed and there is an option to choose so Venus would fight with him. Red Moon eventually wins with her but is severely bruised.

So he can beat any trained mercenary easily but he struggles with sex dolls ;)

By the way it is a common problem in fantasy. Superman at one moment is able to stop a running train and a moment later cannot break a closed door.
 
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cxx

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Notice that there is some serious inconsistency about Red Moon power in the story.
At some moment he needs to be delayed and there is an option to choose so Venus would fight with him. Red Moon eventually wins with her but is severely bruised.

So he can beat any trained mercenary easily but he struggles with sex dolls ;)

By the way it is a common problem in fantasy. Superman at one moment is able to stop a running train later and a moment later cannot break a closed door.
venus comes from same line as military bots.
 

LuciferPrometheus

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I think that is the point - the MC is respected as a Ghost but is not all-powerful. Ever hear of Philip Marlowe? Mike Hammer? Sam Spade? A Ghost is more of a 21st Century PI than a superhero. The Red Moon is a superhero whose raison d'etre has passed on from the world. Henry is a retired superhero whose mission pulls him back into the world, but this is not a world of superheroes. It is a cyberpunk world of mercs and netrunners who are mere mortals with some amazing skills.

If the MC fought the Red Moon he would get his ass instantly handed to himself and probably killed. Then you would get a "Game Over" message and really be whining.
Except when he fought Henry and would have killed him if not for Gloria? I wasn't talking about a head on fight. That'd be stupid. No I was talking about the mc using all his experience earned during his years as a ghost to fight the red moon unconventionally. It's nothing that one can't write.

Also, no one asked him to win. Maybe his goal is to delay him just long enough so that Gloria can get the procedure done. And for example, if you romance Gloria, then she stops in the middle of the whole thing and comes to his rescue right as the red moon is about to kill him. Or if you romance Victoria then right as the red moon is about to kill him, she shows him the tape of Meredith conspiring against the red moon. There are a million ways something like this could be done.

It makes sense that the protagonist of the story makes one last stand against the big bad op villain and wins the day through the power of friendship or some shit or makes the ultimate sacrifice, blows up everything, taking the villain with him or something like that. I am no literary genius but what we got is exponentially more shit than what I just came up with in 5 minutes. And Philly took like a year for that last update.
 

Fantabulous

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I just had no idea there were people who really appreciate the writing in these adult games.
I do value story over porn content in my reviews, unless the gameplay is too short to develop a proper story. A novella with top quality renders and animations but a crappy story (I can list plenty of examples) will get at most 3 stars from me. A great story with average renders and no animations can be luckier, but I'm not that delusional to expect everyone to have the same criteria.

My point is that if you can't write a proper story then why bother creating a novella in the first place? There's no shame in dropping all that CG into a drawer, archiving it and then sharing imagery only, I've found some great animations myself that way.
 
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