VN Ren'Py Completed City of Broken Dreamers [v1.15.0 Ch. 15] [PhillyGames]

[moskyx]

True dat. Nobody gets "lucky" to make it big without hard work and without proving what he's got, but I guess that in our case we can call this small group of individuals who fuck knows why are still getting paid for not doing anything or for getting bored of their projects really lucky bois but also very clever businessmen. Yeah, they lucky to have... an interesting fanbase.

You see the difference between Philly and most of the devs RC-1138 Boss ?? I don't mean to insult the rest of the devs in the business, there's devs that work their asses off for their fans, I'm just stating obvious facts, like everybody else. IIRC Philly said it himself that at some point he wanted to abandon DA, it didn't make money. So yeah, hard work and dedication do the job. Without stuff like that there wouldn't have been a Michael Jordan, a LeBron James, a Leo Messi, a Cristiano Ronaldo etc. (name your favorite). They all started from the bottom and reached the top. Add our boi Philly to the list.

I 100% agree with everything these fine gentlemen said, plus even Philly had it rough in the beginning. Just listen to

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that he made for his fans, not to mention how tiring this work is for him (and for devs in general).



Well said again. If there wasn't an f95 website, ICSTOR and Scamdrop would be jobless or they'd be having a normal job like everybody else, even worse, they'd actually work. Professionalism and communication are the other aspects you should add next to a successful AND serious dev, scammers aside.

So if anybody else want to call ppl like Philly lucky just bcz they know how to be professionals and know how to the their job, go ahead, they lucky, but I hope u realize that winning a shitload of money JUST by being a lucky dude is the kinda shit that happens only at lottery. RL doesn't reward u if u have nothing to show !!

Scamdrop?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Luck? Not even close. There's a ton of effort required to build enough of a backing to make a go of this type of development.

If you create a game (any quality really), and solely hope for traction by setting up a patreon and only using this place as visibility for your game....then yes....you'd have to get "lucky" for anything to happen....and your chances are VERY slim.

The guys that are successful put WAY more effort outside of that though. They get their games visibility on their own websites...pornhub videos...steam...cross promotion with more established devs...et al. That is the only way to grow a legitimate revenue base.

Even this sites favorite punching bag ICSTOR has a steady stream of patreons. That isn't by accident and the disdain here has NO bearing on his income.

You see the difference between Philly and most of the devs @RC-1138 Boss ?? I don't mean to insult the rest of the devs in the business, there's devs that work their asses off for their fans, I'm just stating obvious facts, like everybody else. IIRC Philly said it himself that at some point he wanted to abandon DA, it didn't make money. So yeah, hard work and dedication do the job. Without stuff like that there wouldn't have been a Michael Jordan, a LeBron James, a Leo Messi, a Cristiano Ronaldo etc. (name your favorite). They all started from the bottom and reached the top. Add our boi Philly to the list.

I 100% agree with everything these fine gentlemen said, plus even Philly had it rough in the beginning. Just listen to

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that he made for his fans, not to mention how tiring this work is for him (and for devs in general).

You people seem to be under the impression he is alone (or quite) on doing that, which is simply not true.

Several developers around here do the same. Having their own websites, blogs, twitter or reddits or doing propaganda for each other on patreon to help spread awareness over their games. Also alternative ways of payment like subscribestar or even steam, that today accept pretty much any game (apart from the landlady/shota/loli types).

And while some are able to make big a lot still aren't despite doing that. So why isn't their hard work and dedication rewarded too if that is a fact?
So yeah he got lucky to be able to attract such a big fanbase after doing all that while others did not had the same outcome. Hard work isn't always rewarded in real life...

 

[xXwankerXx]

You people seem to be under the impression he is alone (or quite) on doing that, which is simply not true.

If I'm not mistaken (somebody pls correct me if I do) he's solo on this project, renders, coding and script. He could have proofreaders to help and beta testers to check the game for bugs, but I think he's doing all the work by himself.

And while some are able to make big a lot still aren't despite doing that. So why isn't their hard work and dedication rewarded too if that is a fact?

That's the question I keep asking myself every time I look at ICSTOR and Gumdrop's income (at some "successful" ppl too) after one big facepalm. Why ?? Ppl like those two games and are fanatics about it ?? But I guess the most logical and ontopic answer is Life's not fair or some like to believe that pigs can fly.

I repeat, I respect the work all those hard-working devs put into making their game while getting not even 1/4 of what other "still in development" projects make. It's sad, I agree with u, but patrons have their own preferences, kinks and shit like that and they choose to spend their money how they want ... apparently more on delays, empty promises and cheap scams. Nothing to be done about that, unless Patreon starts a moral crusade to fix it, you can't do anything about it but support the other devs who keep their promises and actually work on their games.

That's the specific reason why Philly is so popular and why fans love his work.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

If I'm not mistaken (somebody pls correct me if I do) he's solo on this project, renders, coding and script. He could have proofreaders to help and beta testers to check the game for bugs, but I think he's doing all the work by himself.

I was talking about the idea that Philly is one of the only few doing hard work to promote his game and is being rewarded because of that. Which downplays all the other developers doing the same hard work but which weren't able to "make big".

That's the question I keep asking myself every time I look at ICSTOR and Gumdrop's income (at some "successful" ppl too) after one big facepalm. Why ?? Ppl like those two games and are fanatics about it ?? But I guess the most logical and ontopic answer is Life's not fair or some like to believe that pigs can fly.

I repeat, I respect the work all those hard-working devs put into making their game while getting not even 1/4 of what other "still in development" projects make. It's sad, I agree with u, but patrons have their own preferences, kinks and shit like that and they choose to spend their money how they want ... apparently more on delays, empty promises and cheap scams. Nothing to be done about that, unless Patreon starts a moral crusade to fix it, you can't do anything about it but support the other devs who keep their promises and actually work on their games.

That's the specific reason why Philly is so popular and why fans love his work.

Icstor is old ( when compared to most other devs around here), he is doing games for more than 5 years now. Maybe he was benefited from a time when patreon was new as a way to support western porn games. Still quite amazing that he can go almost one year with nothing but empty promises and still keep such a big fanbase. No idea about Gumdrop.

 

[BisonFan02]

If I'm not mistaken (somebody pls correct me if I do) he's solo on this project, renders, coding and script. He could have proofreaders to help and beta testers to check the game for bugs, but I think he's doing all the work by himself.

He does have a proofreader and consultant on writing. There is also a small beta tester team (including yours truly). But yes.....solo dev as far as art, coding, bulk of script... etc.

 

[Mormont]

It's the current year and your heteronormative oppressive preferences mean nothing! You're gonna have to cope with the "small minority" of progressives demanding Jamals brutally slam their melanin blessed, comically large dongs into a 12yr old I mean "18yr old" Asian loli "roommate's" asshole as your cuck MC watches and weeps from a dank corner of despair while furiously masturbating... Or maybe you'd prefer your MC dick or get dicked by a transgendered pansexual? Those are your options for your vanilla romance game or your futuristic-dystopian-science fiction-noir game, you cisgendered bigot.

You just don't mess with an already successful game as you said previously hasn't been enough with the likes of Gloria yet for let alone that other stuff, seems we also get attacked for having no interest in it I end up with a facepalm because it's no my personal preference

 

[chicho1958]

You just don't mess with an already successful game as you said previously hasn't been enough with the likes of Gloria yet for let alone that other stuff, seems we also get attacked for having no interest in it I end up with a facepalm because it's no my personal preference

Since this is my top 1 game,whatever the dev does is fine with me hasn't disappoint me and always keep Patrons updated threw emails,so i'm in same boat as you. If people don't like it they can always go play Pokemon.

 

[xןʞ]

Rumor has it you're a hyper beta if Kleo isn't your favorite character.

(also as some people who have seen the legend can tell you, Jamal has nothing on a certain dongus and the asian oppai lolis who fiend over it)

 

[Thermophob]

Rumor has it you're a hyper beta if Kleo isn't your favorite character.

(also as some people who have seen the legend can tell you, Jamal has nothing on a certain dongus and the asian oppai lolis who fiend over it)

Hyper beta means alpha... just sayin (Above the beta).

 

[desh1454]

I have a silly question. I want to play this game.

Is this game completed?
if not when might it be marked as completed? 1 -2 years?

 

[moskyx]

I have a silly question. I want to play this game.

Is this game completed?
if not when might it be marked as completed? 1 -2 years?

We're at halfway point after 1.5 years of development, so...

 

[desh1454]

so..... Abandened or Completed???

 

[Bucketbot89]

so..... Abandened or Completed???

neither

 

[moskyx]

so..... Abandened or Completed???

So a pure gem that's just at halfway point and going in the good direction. There's a development update a couple of pages back

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Okay, posting this just after a fire alarm, lol. Figured like a good break point

This was a very good week, a lot done on all fronts. Really nice to finally have all that move stuff finally behind me. Now sitting at 730 renders 44 animations with another 4 also setup but still need to be rendered. I also did hours of post work today that I had neglected for the past while, so nice to get that out of the way. Also, back in the full swing on the writing front as well.

So yes, very good week Finally back to normal!

Going to do the poll tomorrow for this months custom set as well, so be on the lookout for that. Going to put the side characters against up on that one.

I'm not sure what else to say lol. I think I will enjoy a beer

As always guys stay awesome!

Philly

 

[Faahresc]

Cant wait him to finish the project. Animations, renders and the atmosphere its just perfect.

 

[NukaCola]

Hi, I just finished Depraved awakening and want to check out this game since its from the same author. I have a question. Is there a romance in this game or its just fuck?

 

[AlienEDM]

Hi, I just finished Depraved awakening and want to check out this game since its from the same author. I have a question. Is there a romance in this game or its just fuck?

Actually, I believe there is possible romances between the MC and the girls of the game(Just like in DA). However, the story still on the middle stage, so, lets wait.

 

[Maviarab]

Hi, I just finished Depraved awakening and want to check out this game since its from the same author. I have a question. Is there a romance in this game or its just fuck?

Kind of...sort of...yes. Suggest playing it..multiple paths to take with diff girls...there is one 'romance' you can pursue...another that may end up there (is existing FWB). Highly recommend playing it.

 

[Razrback16]

so..... Abandened or Completed???

I'd label it as "in progress".

Actually, I believe there is possible romances between the MC and the girls of the game(Just like in DA). However, the story still on the middle stage, so, lets wait.

I haven't tried to go after every girl in the game, but of the two I've gone after (and hoping a 3rd and possibly 4th may be available in Book 2), one seems to be a very solid romance, and the other is basically an acquaintance with serious benefits that I am hoping can turn into a more legit romance in Book 2. We'll see.

Try it and find out. I've really enjoyed this game.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I'd label it as "in progress".



I haven't tried to go after every girl in the game, but of the two I've gone after (and hoping a 3rd and possibly 4th may be available in Book 2), one seems to be a very solid romance, and the other is basically an acquaintance with serious benefits that I am hoping can turn into a more legit romance in Book 2. We'll see.

Try it and find out. I've really enjoyed this game.

If you are talking about Ellen she is already a romance option. It all depends on Jake's choices across the game.

There are 5 routes so far: Chandra, Ellen, Katie, Victoria and Gloria.