VN Ren'Py Abandoned Come Inside [v0.2.1] [ttll]

[Watcher X]

A game full of bs filler isn't a very good game. It's a literary mess. A story being focused on one path is absolutely fine, and in some cases perhaps even better because it means the few characters that there are are better fleshed out. That's not the case with this. It was all over the place with pacing and again, conversations wouldn't even end before moving onto the next scene. It's an easy fix with a bit of editing, you wouldn't even need new renders to do so (except for Lindsay's eyes, which should be looking at the camera).

I agree for the most part. This game is visually amazing but the story is starting to fall to pieces. I made this point in an earlier post after finishing the latest chapter, ttll is starting to put filler side stories into the game which are totally unnecessary. That whole change room scene in the clothes shop with the milf was completely redundant and boring as fuck.

My guess, ttll loves drawing beautiful women and needs excuses to insert them into the game. I just wish he would focus on the more interesting parts of the story, such as the relationship with the mother, the ex-nanny and sisters. My other gripe is the MC is a couple of years too young, someone in their early twenties would suit the story better.

 

[harsha_26]

Reminds me of George RR Martin interview, where he used to check fan's theories and be totally surprised to see how people were figuring stuff out, to the point that he was considering working around that at first, but soon gave it up as it would have meant changing/hurting the plot consistency.

In the end, he would simply laugh out loud whenever he saw people getting it right, while working on that exact outcome

Well, what already happened is not the problem. We can shed it off as past. Whether she becomes escort/prostitute or she married someone because she had that "ring". Whatever.

It doesn't amount to much. But.. But...
How MC handles the situation when mom's story continues with MC is the big problem.
Is love amount to non-ntr?
Is hate amount to ntr? If it is, is it avoidable or non avoidable?
Which route got more content & more action.
Does she behaves like a whore with ntr route with doing all sexy content with other male, while non-ntr route she only gives us a handjob after lot of teasing?


Or there is a whole unexpected routes invloved with lori beyond our expectations. We just have to watch it.

And then, we will all meet again to fight continuously after update releases as we see in every optional ntr games.

Because maintaining ntr/non-ntr paths is really hard, difficult & timetaking. I never seen a developer did a good job in that with keeping both fans happy. Some don't even try games if "ntr" tag is there. Lot of speculations.

Personally, I just want this game to be non-ntr like milfy city or man of the house or echoes of lust. Because, ntr fans may adjust with no-ntr games but non-ntr fans will never adjust properly with ntr games. Except like games like Long Story short where ntr route is also goes in some kind of difficulty & blue balling to other males than MC, which is so rare to see in other ntr games.

 

[Duriel]

Because maintaining ntr/non-ntr paths is really hard, difficult & timetaking. I never seen a developer did a good job in that with keeping both fans happy. Some don't even try games if "ntr" tag is there. Lot of speculations.

Then I believe he should just do the right thing (as I and many others have already said previously) and just stick to the story that pleases "him" the author, then fans will collaterally enjoy it.

We all wish every game would fit to our tastes and fetishes like a glove, but as you were saying, those devs who try to appease to multiple sides at once, often divert their own game far from its original intention, resulting in a soulless and often inconsistent experience.

If the game was born with some ntr sentiment, it should stay that way, cause the author enjoys it and has a story to tell revolving around it, no matter how subpar or improvable might look in the eyes of others.

 

[Torakiki]

This game is very nice, high quality render, good story...update news?

 

[DA22]

Then I believe he should just do the right thing (as I and many others have already said previously) and just stick to the story that pleases "him" the author, then fans will collaterally enjoy it.

We all wish every game would fit to our tastes and fetishes like a glove, but as you were saying, those devs who try to appease to multiple sides at once, often divert their own game far from its original intention, resulting in a soulless and often inconsistent experience.

If the game was born with some ntr sentiment, it should stay that way, cause the author enjoys it and has a story to tell revolving around it, no matter how subpar or improvable might look in the eyes of others.

I am absolute not a fan of abusive NTR with family of MC involved and would likely drop the game for that for my own reasons, but I fully agree a game should be fun for a dev to make and his story and not try to please everyone.

Though I always do want to warn any dev that not only NTR genre has its rules, do's and dont's, same goes for other genres including the more romantic genres. You can play around a bit with them and subvert them some, but breaking them badly does hurt your game for those players that are there for those reasons. Another thing is that even if scenes are avoidable in game what happens on those routes will become known to all, so will have an impact on how the women will be perceived and that perception is important to more romantic players and even to lesser extent for the more corruption players. Not much fun to corrupt someone who is more corrupt as MC after all.

Edit: Now if your game is not also about romantic LI's or not about LI's at all but purely about a story that also has women in them that you can do some extra things with you can forget about that all, but that is not the feeling the game gives at this moment.

 

[harsha_26]

Then I believe he should just do the right thing (as I and many others have already said previously) and just stick to the story that pleases "him" the author, then fans will collaterally enjoy it.

We all wish every game would fit to our tastes and fetishes like a glove, but as you were saying, those devs who try to appease to multiple sides at once, often divert their own game far from its original intention, resulting in a soulless and often inconsistent experience.

If the game was born with some ntr sentiment, it should stay that way, cause the author enjoys it and has a story to tell revolving around it, no matter how subpar or improvable might look in the eyes of others.

Yes, If the game is born in some ntr sentiment, It is alright. But, as far as I seen, most of ntr games are just planned "ntr" originally but later planned a non-ntr route too, just to bag patreon money from non-ntr fans. But, as the dev original's plan was canonically "ntr", that path gets high content, interesting with so much action, where as love/non-ntr route looks lame & boring. Because he is not good at that writing non-ntr content. It's not his area of expertise.

Some other games are experimented in reverse mode. They don't contain ntr content upto some chapters. But, suddenly devs will implement so called "optional ntr" scenes, where there is no actual need to include them. They did that because of requests from ntr fans. For example, In one game, MC enjoying girls with non-ntr style, players thought it's going to be a fun ride. All fans are happy. No complaints. But suddenly dev gave us a shock to include ntr scenes with adding new content to the on going story.

Result: Many non-ntr fans stopped supporting him & walked out of the game.

That's why, devs should be clear about things from starting itself. If they want to make it include NTR, they should say from first itself. Some games did that. Those games don't have much problems. Like Long Story Short, Tyrant etc..

 

[DA22]

Yes, If the game is born in some ntr sentiment, It is alright. But, as far as I seen, most of ntr games are just planned "ntr" originally but later planned a non-ntr route too, just to bag patreon money from non-ntr fans. But, as the dev original's plan was canonically "ntr", that path gets high content, interesting with so much action, where as love/non-ntr route looks lame & boring. Because he is not good at that writing non-ntr content. It's not his area of expertise.

Some other games are experimented in reverse mode. They don't contain ntr content upto some chapters. But, suddenly devs will implement so called "optional ntr" scenes, where there is no actual need to include them. They did that because of requests from ntr fans. For example, In one game, MC enjoying girls with non-ntr style, players thought it's going to be a fun ride. All fans are happy. No complaints. But suddenly dev gave us a shock to include ntr scenes with adding new content to the on going story.

Result: Many non-ntr fans stopped supporting him & walked out of the game.

That's why, devs should be clear about things from starting itself. If they want to make it include NTR, they should say from first itself. Some games did that. Those games don't have much problems. Like Long Story Short, Tyrant etc..

You talking about that game where suddenly out of the blue a main woman gets herself dp'ed by two guys while you have a date with her and walk in on her doing that and you as MC could either join or say how hot it looked? While there was no sign in the game before that the woman in question or MC was in any way interested in that. Yeah that was kind of jarring and a big shitstorm.

 

[harsha_26]

You talking about that game where suddenly out of the blue a main woman gets herself dp'ed by two guys while you have a date with her and walk in on her doing that and you as MC could either join or say how hot it looked? While there was no sign in the game before that the woman in question or MC was in any way interested in that. Yeah that was kind of jarring and a big shitstorm.

Yeah, wanted to gave a sad reaction but f95 says that my reaction limit reached today lol. So, here, take my reaction..

 

[MrFriendly]

You talking about that game where suddenly out of the blue a main woman gets herself dp'ed by two guys while you have a date with her and walk in on her doing that and you as MC could either join or say how hot it looked? While there was no sign in the game before that the woman in question or MC was in any way interested in that. Yeah that was kind of jarring and a big shitstorm.

Wait, what? In this game? Or are you talking about something else... So confused.

Yeah, wanted to gave a sad reaction but f95 says that my reaction limit reached today lol. So, here, take my reaction..

The reaction limit is silly, they should really only have it for facepalms and honestly they should just get rid of that reaction there are some people who overuse it like crazy.

 

[harsha_26]

Wait, what? In this game? Or are you talking about something else... So confused.



The reaction limit is silly, they should really only have it for facepalms and honestly they should just get rid of that reaction there are some people who overuse it like crazy.

No, he is taking about some other game. Yeah, reaction limits are silly. I didn't given any facepalm reactions today.

 

[jhvgredxv546ZDS97]

And what game are you talking about?

 

[DA22]

Wait, what? In this game? Or are you talking about something else... So confused.



The reaction limit is silly, they should really only have it for facepalms and honestly they should just get rid of that reaction there are some people who overuse it like crazy.

Sorry it was in reaction to a post from hersha, thought I recognized the game he mentioned and since using names is not nice in another thread had to keep it at a description. Actually that scene was removed from that game, but that was one perfect example of how not to introduce that kind of content in a game by total surprise to subvert expectations or add extra unnecessary drama.

 

[FrenZy__]

Any hint on the next update?

 

[PinkGoddess]

You talking about that game where suddenly out of the blue a main woman gets herself dp'ed by two guys while you have a date with her and walk in on her doing that and you as MC could either join or say how hot it looked? While there was no sign in the game before that the woman in question or MC was in any way interested in that. Yeah that was kind of jarring and a big shitstorm.

Can u say the game in spoiler pls? haha

 

[DA22]

Can u say the game in spoiler pls? haha

See your pm.

 

[Maviarab]

See your pm.

C'mon DA...share the love *awaits inbox*

 

[Aion_Abyss]

See your pm.

Send one this way too, will ya?

Thanks, pal

 

[DA22]

Send one this way too, will ya?

Thanks, pal

Well since questions for pm's seem to derail thread more than one post with the name will put it in spoiler here, be aware that content has been taken out though at end latest update and noone knows for sure what dev will do in next update and it is more of an example how not to suddenly incorporate that kind of content in a game as opposed to this game that gave some warnings from start that some routes might not be MC only if you choose so. Please keep further discussion of that in the thread of that game though to not derail this one.

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[Mothercest]

lora with long hair
ps: w aiting for the next update

 

[Zeke Brandon]

lora with long hair
ps: w View attachment 818309 aiting for the next update

Now that's hot love Lora