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wsg123

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Damn, why doesn't Season 2 of this game support old saves?
So you're telling me I gotta re-download a 9GB game,
hold down Ctrl for 30 minutes, just to get a few KB save file?
What kinda ridiculous game design is this?
Good luck with that.
 

Krytax123

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English is also not my first language, but that's beside the point, and I am not trying to discriminate based on proficiency in English here. I am, however, not entertained by the idea of asking such a question "Is it bad to lose power?" to begin with.

The idea of power, in politics and political theory, is generally defined as the ability to influence or direct others. Whether by hard means, such as violence and the implication of it, or softer means, such as cultural or otherwise less implicit forms like institutions. Considering the person asking the question is a companion, a being by nature of his pact to the dark ones is more powerful than any ordinary person through the possession of unnatural abilities, meaning he is much better at coercion, it is doublly absurd to even contemplating losing power to begin with.

You might argue that this is metagaming. Even from an in-game perspective, I am unconvinced that anyone would not appreciate the acumulation of power, especially among the companions. To willingly give up power is suicide in a world of hunter and the hunted. Therefore, as a logical conclusion, a companion should always seek power. I could also argue that the person receiving the question occupies a crucial position in a huge organization, asking such a question is foolish at best.

Regardless whether or not English is one's first language, a question, like "Is it bad to lose power?" where one directly benefits from more power should never be raised in the first place. Nevertheless, I should apologize for my language in the first place, and I won't argue with anyone who prefers otherwise.
Bro what are you even yapping about? MC is arguably the most powerful companion already and hes only getting stronger, whats your problem?

Damn, why doesn't Season 2 of this game support old saves?
So you're telling me I gotta re-download a 9GB game,
hold down Ctrl for 30 minutes, just to get a few KB save file?
What kinda ridiculous game design is this?
Good luck with that.
oh noe you have to finish s1 before you can start s2, how unusual. Im sure the dev will be very sad that you wont pirate his game because 9gb is to much to dl for you lol
 

SpyderArachnid

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Bah, I think my save is busted. Getting errors about blakegone and my name is now "None". lol

Oh well *cracks knuckles* time to get started fresh again. Looking forward to the update when I get to it! ;)
 

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English is also not my first language, but that's beside the point, and I am not trying to discriminate based on proficiency in English here. I am, however, not entertained by the idea of asking such a question "Is it bad to lose power?" to begin with.

The idea of power, in politics and political theory, is generally defined as the ability to influence or direct others. Whether by hard means, such as violence and the implication of it, or softer means, such as cultural or otherwise less implicit forms like institutions. Considering the person asking the question is a companion, a being by nature of his pact to the dark ones is more powerful than any ordinary person through the possession of unnatural abilities, meaning he is much better at coercion, it is doublly absurd to even contemplating losing power to begin with.

You might argue that this is metagaming. Even from an in-game perspective, I am unconvinced that anyone would not appreciate the acumulation of power, especially among the companions. To willingly give up power is suicide in a world of hunter and the hunted. Therefore, as a logical conclusion, a companion should always seek power. I could also argue that the person receiving the question occupies a crucial position in a huge organization, asking such a question is foolish at best.

Regardless whether or not English is one's first language, a question, like "Is it bad to lose power?" where one directly benefits from more power should never be raised in the first place. Nevertheless, I should apologize for my language in the first place, and I won't argue with anyone who prefers otherwise.
Firstly, apart from a few spelling errors your English is actually pretty good from the written perspective. Also, philosophical comments like this might be above some peoples mindsets even though its about todays release. I would not say that Emma wanting to give up part of her power is absurd, think about how many people she has killed already. Even though she has a dominance kink, she is a kind hearted woman who has been killing others to protect those around her knowing full well that if she messes up any of her friends may die if she doesn't continue. That burden plus the weight of those deaths caused her to break down which is the reason why she wants less power so that she isn't called upon to help as much as she was previously. Ideally it would be better for her to give up all of her powers so that she could return to being a normal person again then she wont be hunted but because of her nature I can understand why she still wants to retain some so that she can still help out. Even for normal soldiers in real life dealing with what Emma is currently could potentially be considered a form of ptsd because it may affect her judgement during a critical time and cause more problems.
 
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SpyderArachnid

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Fuuuuuuuuccc- that was a good update. I am soo going to destroy her/Ren. There is no doubt about it.

Man. A lot of feels there. Thanks for the update. Excited for what comes next.

EDIT: On a side note, still waiting to see Gab and Nael reunite.
 
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duz1nn

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So the biggest update huh , didnt felt like it to be honest , im not a fast reader and i like to watch the animations so i always wait at last 5s before clicking again , but i dont think it took me more than 40min to reach the end of the episode.
The update was not bad , dont get me wrong , just saying that it didnt felt that big as was claimed to be , and of course you had to put that shit clifhanger .... i knew it we wouldnt see the end of this shit todays haha .
So , Jacky seems a nice girl , as we can read her thoughts and know how she really feels , but act different , that doesnt make her a bad person , so im interested in her.

And Ren.. ooh Ren.. i hope i have the option to kill you :D i desliked her since the beginning , she is not even the most strong one and she is always acting almight , even Nael that is the first one dont act this way , so yeah... i wanna kill her really bad :)
And i really hope a relationship doesnt start with her , dont make this manipulative bitch and selfcentered a LI .

So Claire understood everything in that short period of time and still choose to submit to her , which is understandable since she only wants to save her mother , now... she also alerts Ren about "mc" will do everything they can to take her out and get Claire back , but she doesnt know that "mc" is Noel companion right ? She doesnt know that she is messing with the Noel and Nael ?

Well , i guess thats it... have to wait and see what is going to happen next .
Thank you for the update and looking foward for whats next :)
 

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Sol Invicti

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Bro what are you even yapping about? MC is arguably the most powerful companion already and hes only getting stronger, whats your problem?
Your interpretation of my comment is wrong. The situation that I was refering to was MC asking Claire if it would be so bad to lose power, and I have no idea what you are talking about.


Firstly, apart from a few spelling errors your English is actually pretty good from the written perspective. Also, philosophical comments like this might be above some peoples mindsets even though its about todays release. I would not say that Emma wanting to give up part of her power is absurd, think about how many people she has killed already. Even though she has a dominance kink, she is a kind hearted woman who has been killing others to protect those around her knowing full well that if she messes up any of her friends may die if she doesn't continue. That burden plus the weight of those deaths caused her to break down which is the reason why she wants less power so that she isn't called upon to help as much as she was previously. Ideally it would be better for her to give up all of her powers so that she could return to being a normal person again then she wont be hunted but because of her nature I can understand why she still wants to retain some so that she can still help out. Even for normal soldiers in real life dealing with what Emma is currently could potentially be considered a form of ptsd because it may affect her judgement during a critical time and cause more problems.
Let me clarify beforehand that I was not talking about Emma before your comment. This exact quote I wanted to discussed was between MC and Claire, and it happened at the beginning of Chapter 10, if I remember correctly. Therefore, when I wrote that comment, it was very much directed at MC questioning Claire. Additionally, I took long breaks between playing Chapter 9 and Chapter 10, so there might be inaccuracies in my discussions, do forgive it on my part.

For one, in the case of companions, due to the lack of a superior forms of governance and Nael being a passive leader, the society of dark ones, if we can call it that, would be effectively in an anarchy. If we take Hobbes' interpretation of state of nature, we could say that the society of companions is effectively a war of everyone versus everyone, as was the case of the game's depiction of Europe. Therefore it would be absurd to lose power, since power is used to defend oneself from possible and potential harm, and I am of the view that most companions have self-perserving tendencies, which should be true everywhere else.

Emma is an entirely different case. She was not in Europe (especially when she wanted to give up power). In depicted NA, societies such as legion, brotherhood and Claire's faction has already formed and established. in most cases, societies can help alleviate pressure from its members by transforming individual burden and transforming it into a collective burden. After Emma's withdrawal from the material world into her spiritual world, Claire can still maintain somewhat of a decent level of control and conduct other forms of activity by utilizing non-companions (which you can argue that her capabilities was based on others' assumption of Emma still being around), makes a case of collective response in the absence of individual prowess.

Therefore, we might argue to a degree that Emma is afforded the opportunity to consider losing power since others can step up in her absence. Her wanting to lose power is not absurd - when - there is a society that can share some of her burden. Without such a society, Emma cannot afford such luxuries. If she does not have the power to defend, then her wish to defend is rendered moot, which is a direct challenge to her desire of protection. Emma is afraid of the fact that she might slip up and inadvertently hurt those she wishes to protct, which is agreeable in depicted NA, but to trade the power that could protect in for a peace of mind, in my professor's terms, is a lose-lose gambit in the case of a state of nature in depicted Europe.

I do agree on your last part though, ptsd and emotional turmoil is harmful in one's judgment, and she really need to take a break from active combat. As for Claire that I orignally wanted to discuss, well, my view is asking her to lose power really is asking her to take her own life.
 

Krytax123

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Your interpretation of my comment is wrong. The situation that I was refering to was MC asking Claire if it would be so bad to lose power, and I have no idea what you are talking about.




Let me clarify beforehand that I was not talking about Emma before your comment. This exact quote I wanted to discussed was between MC and Claire, and it happened at the beginning of Chapter 10, if I remember correctly. Therefore, when I wrote that comment, it was very much directed at MC questioning Claire. Additionally, I took long breaks between playing Chapter 9 and Chapter 10, so there might be inaccuracies in my discussions, do forgive it on my part.

For one, in the case of companions, due to the lack of a superior forms of governance and Nael being a passive leader, the society of dark ones, if we can call it that, would be effectively in an anarchy. If we take Hobbes' interpretation of state of nature, we could say that the society of companions is effectively a war of everyone versus everyone, as was the case of the game's depiction of Europe. Therefore it would be absurd to lose power, since power is used to defend oneself from possible and potential harm, and I am of the view that most companions have self-perserving tendencies, which should be true everywhere else.

Emma is an entirely different case. She was not in Europe (especially when she wanted to give up power). In depicted NA, societies such as legion, brotherhood and Claire's faction has already formed and established. in most cases, societies can help alleviate pressure from its members by transforming individual burden and transforming it into a collective burden. After Emma's withdrawal from the material world into her spiritual world, Claire can still maintain somewhat of a decent level of control and conduct other forms of activity by utilizing non-companions (which you can argue that her capabilities was based on others' assumption of Emma still being around), makes a case of collective response in the absence of individual prowess.

Therefore, we might argue to a degree that Emma is afforded the opportunity to consider losing power since others can step up in her absence. Her wanting to lose power is not absurd - when - there is a society that can share some of her burden. Without such a society, Emma cannot afford such luxuries. If she does not have the power to defend, then her wish to defend is rendered moot, which is a direct challenge to her desire of protection. Emma is afraid of the fact that she might slip up and inadvertently hurt those she wishes to protct, which is agreeable in depicted NA, but to trade the power that could protect in for a peace of mind, in my professor's terms, is a lose-lose gambit in the case of a state of nature in depicted Europe.

I do agree on your last part though, ptsd and emotional turmoil is harmful in one's judgment, and she really need to take a break from active combat. As for Claire that I orignally wanted to discuss, well, my view is asking her to lose power really is asking her to take her own life.
Emma is cleary not able to handle the burden of the power. Shes succumbing under the responsibility coming with the power and never asked for it. So the question "Would it be so bad to lose power" isnt stupid when its about her as it may helps her to function at all again. Being present with less power is still more valuable than being not present with more power (thats kinda Nael, having all power but no presence if its not a life or death situation of noel or gabriel lol).

Emma isnt just afraid to slip up and hurt someone she wants to protect, she is mentally exhausted, tired and broken by the gruesome terrors she committed in the high orders name.

This is a young college girl who suddenly started to burn countless, thousends and thousends of people to death, simply snapping her finger and so many lifes vanish. Not everyone is made for that and i would argue most people are not, our MC is special in this case too, he got the hard school considering what he had to do to his dad and is emotionally jaded/cold/deaf/indifferent.

But even he was a little sad when he dematerialized like 20 people in one go.

These us drone pilots develop mental traumas about it but emma is the drone herself and sees the people burning with her own eyes every single time and shes just a young girl without any kind of preparation for this kind of shitshow.

And the power will be transfered and not deleted anyway so i really dont get your problem with it, either to a high order companion or to the mc.

MC asking Claire this could be about her not being able to handle this amount of power in a morally acceptable way too.
 
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