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The way i see it is that Gabe dose not whant Noel and The Mc to be separated but becuse Noel Died and was brout back by Nael the bond was gone, and with Gabe changing his mind i think that is him being lazy and/or just whant to spend more time with Nael.
I personally believe that whole thing was about separating the MC from Noel. Whatever Nael and Gabe have planned is going to require both Noel and the MC to grow and Noel couldn’t do that with being restricted by the bond. When Noel and the MC were separated and Noel went ferel, she basically detached herself from the bond like how Eda wasn’t restricted by the bond before she and Clara visited Nael.

I know this is off topic but have you thought about how perfect and necessary it was for Nael to force Eda back into the bond? If Nael had not “rewarded” Eda by binding her and letting her keep her memories, Eda could have fought off Unis herself and Clara would have never made a deal with Ren. All of it is orchestrated by Nael for some purpose, including Clara and Eda.

Anyway, back on topic, Noel is now no longer associated with the bond because she went ferel. I am guessing that was necessary for whatever Nael has planned and that is why Matt was allowed to rampage killing companions without hesitation right up until the moment that the bond between Noel and the MC was cut. The very second she gets what she wants, her and Gabe step in.
 
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I personally believe that whole thing was about separating the MC from Noel. Whatever Nael and Gabe have planned is going to require both Noel and the MC to grow and Noel couldn’t do that with being restricted by the bond. When Noel and the MC were separated and Noel went ferel, she basically detached herself from the bond like how Eda wasn’t restricted by the bond before she and Clara visited Nael.

I know this is off topic but have you thought about how perfect and necessary it was for Nael to force Eda back into the bond? If Nael had not “rewarded” Eda by binding her and letting her keep her memories, Eda could have fought off Unis herself and Clara would have never made a deal with Ren. All of it is orchestrated by Nael for some purpose, including Clara and Eda.

Anyway, back on topic, Noel is now no longer associated with the bond because she went ferel. I am guessing that was necessary for whatever Nael has planned and that is why Matt was allowed to rampage killing companions without hesitation right up until the moment that the bond between Noel and the MC was cut. The very second she gets what she wants, her and Gabe step in.
Noel may of whent ferel but now that she is bonded to the MC aging is she not fullel bonded to the pack?

And i see what you are saying about Eda thoug i still think Ren's plan would of worked and Clara would of made a deal.

I dont think Nael has a plan for anything she just whants Gabe thoug i may be wrong in that.
 
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Noel may of whent ferel but now that she is bonded to the MC aging is she not fullel bonded to the pack?

And i see what you are saying about Eda thoug i still think Ren's plan would of worked and Clara would of made a deal.

I dont think Nael has a plan for anything she just whants Gabe thoug i may be wrong in that.
She isn’t bound to the pact like most dark ones anymore. The MC went through the same basic process with Noel that they went through to get Eda. 1) found her as a ferel, 2) supplied her with emotions (or his flesh in the case of Noel), 3) when she was sane again, they bonded. That would indicate that Noel is in a similar situation to Eda before Nael restricted her to the pact again. That means that the pact doesn’t really restrict Noel anymore. She still needs the bond for emotions and to keep from going ferel, but I believe that she has much more freedom now. I believe that she could hurt humans (though she never would because she chooses not to) and I believe that the power cap the bond places on dark ones is now removed for her. I believe she is free to grow without that restriction.

How do you think Ren’s plan would have worked if Unis wasn’t about to kill her mother?
 
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She isn’t bound to the pact like most dark ones anymore. The MC went through the same basic process with Noel that they went through to get Eda. 1) found her as a ferel, 2) supplied her with emotions (or his flesh in the case of Noel), 3) when she was sane again, they bonded. That would indicate that Noel is in a similar situation to Eda before Nael restricted her to the pact again. That means that the pact doesn’t really restrict Noel anymore. She still needs the bond for emotions and to keep from going ferel, but I believe that she has much more freedom now. I believe that she could hurt humans (though she never would because she chooses not to) and I believe that the power cap the bond places on dark ones is now removed for her. I believe she is free to grow without that restriction.

How do you think Ren’s plan would have worked if Unis wasn’t about to kill her mother?
I see what you are saying about Noel but unlike Eda no one that we see forgave her of being ferel like Noel did for Eda and i still think Nael would make shore that her sister is bond to the pact as a safty thing more then anthing else.

and with Ren's plan she would of stoped Eda from defindeing Clara and her mother because at the end of the day Ren is a Primordial and can order those blow them in power as we see with Ren and Noel do to Eda in Clara mind cause at that time Eda was not fully bound to the pact it was only after the Nael rewarded her and agine i may be worng but that is how i see it.
 
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I see what you are saying about Noel but unlike Eda no one that we see forgave her of being ferel like Noel did for Eda and i still think Nael would make shore that her sister is bond to the pact as a safty thing more then anthing else.

and with Ren's plan she would of stoped Eda from defindeing Clara and her mother because at the end of the day Ren is a Primordial and can order those blow them in power as we see with Ren and Noel do to Eda in Clara mind cause at that time Eda was not fully bound to the pact it was only after the Nael rewarded her and agine i may be worng but that is how i see it.
Yeah, I just assumed that primordials don’t really require someone to forgive their sins. They have the power to do that for other dark ones, idk why they couldn’t do it for themselves? I will submit this as evidence that Noel isn’t bound to the pact the way other dark ones are: Noel obviously loves the MC more than anything which is a violation of the pact and is forbidden for dark ones. It is the original reason Eda went ferel yet Noel is fine. Noel even hints to this fact when her and the MC are setting on the roof waiting for Blake, she says “When we were first connected, I was afraid that my feelings weren’t real, that they were just a result of the bond and would disappear as soon as it broke. But they were not fake. When I turned ferel…..All my memories came flooding back, even from my time before our bond. I remember everything. There was nothing forcing me to like you and yet I loved you. I still do. Thanks to you I have overcome my own nature. So, I can love you however I want.”. She obviously loves the MC and yet she isn’t going ferel. To me, that is a good indication that the bond isn’t working on her the way it does other dark ones.

As far as Unis, I really don’t think Ren’s plan would have succeeded without him going after Claire and Clara. Noel had already shown Eda how to detect and counter her influence over Clara to an extent. Plus, it is pretty clear that she wanted Clara to willingly serve her. I don’t see a world where Clara makes that choice while still having any other option. She really couldn’t stop Eda from defending Clara and her mother because Ren isn’t physically there, she just exists in Clara’s head but as far as I am aware, she is still in Japan? I think anyway, I’m not super clear on how Ren’s possession works.
 
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Yeah, I just assumed that primordials don’t really require someone to forgive their sins. They have the power to do that for other dark ones, idk why they couldn’t do it for themselves? I will submit this as evidence that Noel isn’t bound to the pact the way other dark ones are: Noel obviously loves the MC more than anything which is a violation of the pact and is forbidden for dark ones. It is the original reason Eda went ferel yet Noel is fine. Noel even hints to this fact when her and the MC are setting on the roof waiting for Blake, she says “When we were first connected, I was afraid that my feelings weren’t real, that they were just a result of the bond and would disappear as soon as it broke. But they were not fake. When I turned ferel…..All my memories came flooding back, even from my time before our bond. I remember everything. There was nothing forcing me to like you and yet I loved you. I still do. Thanks to you I have overcome my own nature. So, I can love you however I want.”. She obviously loves the MC and yet she isn’t going ferel. To me, that is a good indication that the bond isn’t working on her the way it does other dark ones.

As far as Unis, I really don’t think Ren’s plan would have succeeded without him going after Claire and Clara. Noel had already shown Eda how to detect and counter her influence over Clara to an extent. Plus, it is pretty clear that she wanted Clara to willingly serve her. I don’t see a world where Clara makes that choice while still having any other option. She really couldn’t stop Eda from defending Clara and her mother because Ren isn’t physically there, she just exists in Clara’s head but as far as I am aware, she is still in Japan? I think anyway, I’m not super clear on how Ren’s possession works.
I see what you are saying most of it sondes right thouge i still think Noel is bond to the pact and she can love the MC because of him bing a RB just like Amy is in love with him.

and Noel did shown Eda how to detect and counter Ren's influence over Clara but in the next seane Eda says that Ren could do the same. Yes i dont know how the possession works but from want is seen Eda has to be in Clara head to counter it, other then that you are right Ren's plan may of just of takeing a bit longer to work.


And sorry if i am not adding much to the discussion as i am a bad spelling and it is hard to get words from my head to anywere elsa.
 
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very good game thank you
there is one problem is that i play android version up to chapter 8 translated version
the game is very good so i searched for more to continue playing
do you have any save version for playing chapter 9
pc save version, i will play pc for easy saving so i can continue playing the next parts
 

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very good game thank you
there is one problem is that i play android version up to chapter 8 translated version
the game is very good so i searched for more to continue playing
do you have any save version for playing chapter 9
pc save version, i will play pc for easy saving so i can continue playing the next parts
:unsure: Android is up to season 2 , so finish your season one and start season 2
 

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Ive replayed the story again and I have to say that each time I play through it I find myself hoping more and more that Cia gets eleveated to a Primodial. Maybe she could take the power form Tessas pearl in the musem or something like that. I just really admire her loyalty and protective nature toward the MC. She was willing to be erased to save him from Noel which is seemingly rare for a dark one. We have seen only one other dark one willing to do that for their companion. Also, I am unsure if anyone else noticed that Cia seemed very distracted during the conversation Clara was having with her mother about Emma. I just realized that she continuously looked in one specific direction while the conversation was happening. I am betting that she was watching over the MC the entire time she was with clara.
 
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Ive replayed the story again and I have to say that each time I play through it I find myself hoping more and more that Cia gets eleveated to a Primodial. Maybe she could take the power form Tessas pearl in the musem or something like that. I just really admire her loyalty and protective nature toward the MC. She was willing to be erased to save him from Noel which is seemingly rare for a dark one. We have seen only one other dark one willing to do that for their companion. Also, I am unsure if anyone else noticed that Cia seemed very distracted during the conversation Clara was having with her mother about Emma. I just realized that she continuously looked in one specific direction while the conversation was happening. I am betting that she was watching over the MC the entire time she was with clara.
To me it look like Cia was ignoreing the mother.
 

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Ive replayed the story again and I have to say that each time I play through it I find myself hoping more and more that Cia gets eleveated to a Primodial. Maybe she could take the power form Tessas pearl in the musem or something like that. I just really admire her loyalty and protective nature toward the MC. She was willing to be erased to save him from Noel which is seemingly rare for a dark one. We have seen only one other dark one willing to do that for their companion. Also, I am unsure if anyone else noticed that Cia seemed very distracted during the conversation Clara was having with her mother about Emma. I just realized that she continuously looked in one specific direction while the conversation was happening. I am betting that she was watching over the MC the entire time she was with clara.
I agree with the other poster, Cia has attitude, she was merely showing her lack of interest towards this pesky humans :ROFLMAO: but yeah she surely was with one eye/ear/sense(?) with the MC

During the fight with the brotherhood goons it sounded like the MC intends to push Noel's power and not Cia's, im not really sure how the power sharing works in the first place, i would have assumed they all gain power if one of the Mc's dark ones takes power from other dark ones but apparently not.

But Dark One's do get evelvated to the status of a primordial if they reach the power-treshhold (becoming too mighty for the bond and having to get debuffed/damaged before the bond takes place like arsa did with amy).

That coupled with Cia's desire and longing to be a primordial (and pregnant tehe) gives me the impression that she will accomplish both of these goals at some point.

Nael behaved rather strict and desinterested towards her BUT imo thats Nael's way of pushing her to grow and she chose Cia to become MC's companion back than in the first place, i doubt her perception is the only reason for it, Nael obviously sees huge potential in Cia.

Fuck i really have to hold myself back from spoiling something pearl related :whistle::ROFLMAO:
 
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She was
To me it look like Cia was ignoreing the mother.
I agree with the other poster, Cia has attitude, she was merely showing her lack of interest towards this pesky humans :ROFLMAO: but yeah she surely was with one eye/ear/sense(?) with the MC

During the fight with the brotherhood goons it sounded like the MC intends to push Noel's power and not Cia's, im not really sure how the power sharing works in the first place, i would have assumed they all gain power if one of the Mc's dark ones takes power from other dark ones but apparently not.

But Dark One's do get evelvated to the status of a primordial if they reach the power-treshhold (becoming too mighty for the bond and having to get debuffed/damaged before the bond takes place like arsa did with amy).

That coupled with Cia's desire and longing to be a primordial (and pregnant tehe) gives me the impression that she will accomplish both of these goals at some point.

Nael behaved rather strict and desinterested towards her BUT imo thats Nael's way of pushing her to grow and she chose Cia to become MC's companion back than in the first place, i doubt her perception is the only reason for it, Nael obviously sees huge potential in Cia.

Fuck i really have to hold myself back from spoiling something pearl related :whistle::ROFLMAO:
I agree with you guys that she was ingoring claire but she seems like she is really focused on something. I personally think that purposefully not looking at Claire gives her far more importance than Cia believes she is actually worth. I dont think Cia would be setting there thinking "I am going to look at some painting on the wall just to show the human I dont like her". No, to Cia, she is less than meaningless. Noting more than occupied space. No different than a piece of furnature really. I have no proof but I like to believe she was using her power a to watch the MC. It gives her more of a protective vibe which I feel is pretty accurate.

I no longer have the first part of the game because of lack of space on my computer but if my memory serves me, Nael refered to Cia as a "sneaky bitch" or something along those lines lol. I have often wondered why Nael would send Cia away. I thought it might be to show Cia that even though she isnt a primodial, she still matters to the MC. Maybe to get her to work harder on getting stronger? Sending her away seems cruel but Nael is not cruel for no reason.

I have thought of each dark one as having two energy and power aspects about them. They each have a current energy/power and a energy/power minimum. Minimum energy is what makes a dark on a primodial. A primodial has to have sufficient minimum energy such that the bond does not affect them natrally. Dark ones can gain energy on top of their minimum like Arsa did with Tessah but if she were to be erased, she would revert back to her minimum. Gaining more power alone will not make a dark on a primodial, they have to riase their minimum energy levels. That would explain why Cia did not instantly become a primodial when the MC used Amy's energy on her in france. She had the current power of a primoridal but not the minimum level necessary to be one.
 
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