VN Ren'Py Corporate Culture [v0.6] [sqwl]

[BrockLanders]

Why does such a good game have so few supporters? Because it is not full of irrational sex?
The world would be much more attractive if it didn't contain stupid people
I hope the developer does not lose hope

Like it or not, most people here are "reading" one-handed and don't develop excitement for themselves through the written word. They are just pounding the spacebar or left-clicking to get to the sex scenes. They ask for save files the second a new update comes out. They beg for gallery unlockers. Most people use what they see rather than what might be as their "juice". It's a big reason why they make the guy shut up in porn scenes.

Maybe they aren't stupid as much as just... well, their "building blocks" of their own sexuality were stacked on top of stuff they don't want to think about. Usually, it's social missteps and negative body imagery they try to escape. They don't like that women have had success before they met them. They don't like inferred competition. When they read these things, they need to win. Always.

For me, I love reading these stories because I know the best ones are written based on familiarity and life experiences. There's always something new to learn. I love that I know BDSM is not for me yet I can't stop reading Pale Carnations. I love that I would never want to be in a frat and none of the LIs would be good for me in real life (except maybe Josy but I'd fuck it all up for Lily lol), but I can't stop reading BaDIK. I will never have to pick which LI's life to save in a fire. I will never be an undercover federal agent that dishes out discipline for fun. I will never go back in time and fuck my hot ass aunt. I will never rekindle relationships with my estranged family and sister and fuck every living thing in the house. They're just stories, but they're very titillating.

Most people just don't give themselves a chance to be titillated because they're embarrassed. It should be wank and stop wanking to them. They aren't interested in character development and theory. Unfortunately, most people aren't interested in why they are attracted to someone... just that they are at all, and that's the end of it.

Thankfully, games like Corporate Culture soldier on in spite of this. They aren't stupid, they're just... something else entirely, and that's okay. It's frustrating, but it's okay. Cheers.

 

[jufot]

I love reading these stories because I know the best ones are written based on familiarity and life experiences.

This is so true. You can always tell when a sex scene is written by someone whose real life experience hasn't yet progressed beyond pixels on a screen.

 

[Canto Forte]

Most porn is fantasy that never gets going IRL, mainly as it would end in try/rape or never talking again.
Yes, IRL women like to be roughed up and to be undressed, but you get your signals wrong,
it becomes assault or rape attempt and you are done for life.

Most people just don't give themselves a chance to be titillated because they're embarrassed

You can always tell when a sex scene is written by someone

We could all use some immagination we can adhere to, as a lotta times,
we get outrageously impropper ads/shows/series on the tele all the time.

Most people preffer the low hanging fruit, forcing someone, drugging someone,
blackmailing someone - this is how most get the girl - by being pushy.

Many guys get rejection rather than even a word with a hottie, not to meniton a date or anything else.

This is why Elsa is offputting asshole not even her girl can stand, for screwing her hook ups.
Actual female interest must be there for guys to ”land them”, not just whatever a guy does or is or has.

Females love to shit on guys all the time, so the fiasco MC has with the girl
that his pal wants to hook him up with is very much close to many experiences IRL.

Relationships take years, not scenes or hook ups ... these games do not have such spans.

 

[Deleted member 6118633]

The writing is soul crushing in a good way, Makes you wonder about stuff and reevaluate you life.
but...

Anyway can someone see this MC ending with Elsa?
as for me is kinda impossible atm.

Elsa is a snake, and she's using MC, that much is fucking obvious, MC putting Emma in her place and turning her into a personal sex slave is more likely to happen than a happy ending with Elsa.

 

[Sasanid]

Elsa is a snake, and she's using MC, that much is fucking obvious, MC putting Emma in her place and turning her into a personal sex slave is more likely to happen than a happy ending with Elsa.

That's one way to see this, I guess.

I don't share your point of view, but who knows, this game is unconventional in the best of ways anyway.

Emma is the sub/dom relationship that is bound to be hatefucked (and will probably like it), if you follow that path. There's bound to be clashes soon, on a different level.

Alicece (sorry) is the 'beta fan' path, she's kind but ultimately wayyyy too up there, mentally and technically, probably very fickle because she's filthy rich and can do whatever she wants.

The bimbo (don't remember her name, hate her type anyway) just wants to be pampered, she's vain and will 'buy' her way with sex, she wants a true 'alpha' who will give her whatever she wants...

I could see Vicky be part of the equation soon, she seems very kind, and damn hot, but yeah, we've barely seen her so far.

But Elsa ? She's a dream... who's not totally honest, that's a fact. She plays games with everyone, but the worst victim of her games is probably herself, and she's yet to realize it... one thing is certain, to me at least, she's drawn to Edward for 'reasons' (of her own), otherwise she wouldn't waste her time like that, I mean, it's not like she's reaping rewards with him on any points, she doesn't seem to need money either... yes, there's something fishy, but I don't know why, I love that type, strong-willed, independant, proud, wickedly smart, and obviously beautiful. I see Yennefer (Witcher) in her, and I love Yennefer, she won't turn left cause you turn left, she'll do whatever she wants.

Cause otherwise, happy endings ain't a sure thing in any of those paths, we'll just have to be consequential with the choices presented to us.

 

[Deleted member 6118633]

That's one way to see this, I guess.

I don't share your point of view, but who knows, this game is unconventional in the best of ways anyway.

Emma is the sub/dom relationship that is bound to be hatefucked (and will probably like it), if you follow that path. There's bound to be clashes soon, on a different level.

Alicece (sorry) is the 'beta fan' path, she's kind but ultimately wayyyy too up there, mentally and technically, probably very fickle because she's filthy rich and can do whatever she wants.

The bimbo (don't remember her name, hate her type anyway) just wants to be pampered, she's vain and will 'buy' her way with sex, she wants a true 'alpha' who will give her whatever she wants...

I could see Vicky be part of the equation soon, she seems very kind, and damn hot, but yeah, we've barely seen her so far.

But Elsa ? She's a dream... who's not totally honest, that's a fact. She plays games with everyone, but the worst victim of her games is probably herself, and she's yet to realize it... one thing is certain, to me at least, she's drawn to Edward for 'reasons' (of her own), otherwise she wouldn't waste her time like that, I mean, it's not like she's reaping rewards with him on any points, she doesn't seem to need money either... yes, there's something fishy, but I don't know why, I love that type, strong-willed, independant, proud, wickedly smart, and obviously beautiful. I see Yennefer (Witcher) in her, and I love Yennefer, she won't turn left cause you turn left, she'll do whatever she wants.

Cause otherwise, happy endings ain't a sure thing in any of those paths, we'll just have to be consequential with the choices presented to us.

When you're at the cafe where MC runs into the door, Elsa's friend says to her "another pet project?" or something like that, which should raise a giant red flag.

Whatever Elsa is doing with MC it's not the first time she's been involved in something like that, perhaps she just enjoys controlling people, but the fact that her background is completely obscure except for that she is obviously from a wealthy family, and likewise her ability to set up a face-time meeting for MC with the former CEO of a major oil company just as a part of some ploy to help make him COO also hints that she's most likely someone who's experienced in corporate culture (sorry for the pun) even though she herself has never had previous employment, ergo her father must be some big shot and she's grown up around the constant powerplays and ratfucking involved in it, as such she's someone constantly looking for openings, or constantly trying to create openings.

My assumption here is that she's looking for tools and useful people, she wants people to owe her favors that she can collect on, and to have hooks on people, which is exactly what she has on MC, she both has him in her debt, and she has a hook on him by knowing his desires and fears etc. When Elsa worked to make MC into an executive at EO it wasn't just in an effort help the player out of some sense of altruism, by making someone who owes her more powerful she increases the value of the favors she can collect and as such she is strengthening her own position.

Elsa is going to be a problem down the line, either the player will have to play ball with her and give her whatever she wants, or she could potentially fuck his life up in a major way, she knows about how MC blackmailed Emma into endorsing him for the position of COO, and she knows that MC is a weird stalker who's hounding the important executive guy's daughter. (forgot his name and position)

I don't get how people can see Elsa differently, it's obvious what's going on, and conflict is a necessary part of creating momentum to move the story along, Elsa might have some romantic ending with MC, but there's going to be a river of shit to cross before you get there, and I highly doubt you will have the same fondness for Elsa after that experience.

 

[Porthas]

When you're at the cafe where MC runs into the door, Elsa's friend says to her "another pet project?" or something like that, which should raise a giant red flag.

Whatever Elsa is doing with MC it's not the first time she's been involved in something like that, perhaps she just enjoys controlling people, but the fact that her background is completely obscure except for that she is obviously from a wealthy family, and likewise her ability to set up a face-time meeting for MC with the former CEO of a major oil company just as a part of some ploy to help make him COO also hints that she's most likely someone who's experienced in corporate culture (sorry for the pun) even though she herself has never had previous employment, ergo her father must be some big shot and she's grown up around the constant powerplays and ratfucking involved in it, as such she's someone constantly looking for openings, or constantly trying to create openings.

My assumption here is that she's looking for tools and useful people, she wants people to owe her favors that she can collect on, and to have hooks on people, which is exactly what she has on MC, she both has him in her debt, and she has a hook on him by knowing his desires and fears etc. When Elsa worked to make MC into an executive at EO it wasn't just in an effort help the player out of some sense of altruism, by making someone who owes her more powerful she increases the value of the favors she can collect and as such she is strengthening her own position.

Elsa is going to be a problem down the line, either the player will have to play ball with her and give her whatever she wants, or she could potentially fuck his life up in a major way, she knows about how MC blackmailed Emma into endorsing him for the position of COO, and she knows that MC is a weird stalker who's hounding the important executive guy's daughter. (forgot his name and position)

I don't get how people can see Elsa differently, it's obvious what's going on, and conflict is a necessary part of creating momentum to move the story along, Elsa might have some romantic ending with MC, but there's going to be a river of shit to cross before you get there, and I highly doubt you will have the same fondness for Elsa after that experience.

When I think of Elsa I start humming "Wrapped Around Your Finger" by The Police.

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[KekWGgWP]

Most underrated game from here to be fair.

 

[Canto Forte]

124 ratings and sitting at 4.5 stars with a banner barren and offputting and a description to cut wrists.

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Anyone ballancing those will tell ya this is overhyped and overpraised for the lackluster promotionals.

 

[qwertyu12359]

124 ratings and sitting at 4.5 stars with a banner barren and offputting and a description to cut wrists.

Anyone ballancing those will tell ya this is overhyped and overpraised for the lackluster promotionals.

Lol I hadn't even noticed the horrible description, what's up with that?

However, the critic you make is superficial. What only matters is the game itself, its content. It's underated as in not enough mentioned in conversations outside of its own thread, as opposed to some "overhyped" teenage fanfic author level of literature often mentioned in the lists for best VNs.

 

[Sasanid]

Lol I hadn't even notice the description, what's up with that?

However, the critic you make is superficial. What only matters is the game itself, its content. It's underated as in not enough mentioned in conversations outside of its own thread, as opposed to some "overhyped" teenage fanfic author level of literature often mentioned in the lists for best VNs.

Yeah, 'underrated' basically = 'mostly unknown'.

And yeah, it's underrated as hell.

Probably because it's a smart game.

 

[Canto Forte]

MC is written as always running in circles, even the updates are copy-pasted one from another:
MC gets with Elsa, they collude, they make a breakthrough,
MC slips back into his self deprecating offputting mindset,
the neighbor is there to ease the sexual tension ... the end.

what's up with that?

Probably because it's a smart game

A female dev who is doing marvelous, is young and has a similarly cutthroat corporate game,
has given this game four stars and has told of the unappealing, bland, horrendously underdevelopped
swimming in shit MC for years now - this game dev did jack shit about that,
even tho MC has a gym trainer pal who has been trying to hook him up with girls for ever.

 

[Sasanid]

MC is written as always running in circles, even the updates are copy-pasted one from another:
MC gets with Elsa, they collude, they make a breakthrough,
MC slips back into his self deprecating offputting mindset,
the neighbor is there to ease the sexual tension ... the end.


A female dev who is doing marvelous, is young and has a similarly cutthroat corporate game,
has given this game four stars and has told of the unappealing, bland, horrendously underdevelopped
swimming in shit MC for years now - this game dev did jack shit about that,
even tho MC has a gym trainer pal who has been trying to hook him up with girls for ever.
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Totally disagree with your statements, and I'm not here to argue, we're on the opposite ends of the spectrum here anyway.

But I'm curious, what's the game of your friend ?

 

[Ragnar]

124 ratings and sitting at 4.5 stars with a banner barren and offputting and a description to cut wrists.
Anyone ballancing those will tell ya this is overhyped and overpraised for the lackluster promotionals.

Honey is not for the ass's mouth.

Why the game is not more popular?
Updates take too much time to come out.

 

[Sasanid]

Honey is not for the ass's mouth.

Why the game is not more popular?
Updates take too much time to come out.

It's the same for every quality AVNs out there, definitely not the reason.

And anyway, beside some more fortunate producers (like DrPinkCake, for example), you can't live with 600$US a month, what sqwl earns with Patreon, so most have jobs too.

 

[dolfe67]

Marketing is lackluster too

 

[Sasanid]

Marketing is lackluster too

Probably the main reason, found this game out of nowhere, think it was mentioned on reddit as a story-driven game, which I look for first and foremost. Never heard of that before.

 

[Jumbi]

Honey is not for the ass's mouth.

Why the game is not more popular?
Updates take too much time to come out.

That seems like a good reason, yeah. If you really like the game, you are gonna wait, no problem. But long waiting times and updates that are not big will always make some people leave the boat. That's inevitable, I think.

 

[Deleted member 6118633]

Totally disagree with your statements, and I'm not here to argue, we're on the opposite ends of the spectrum here anyway.

But I'm curious, what's the game of your friend ?

I think it's TessSadist and her game is Karlsson's Gambit, could be wrong about that, but it's the assumption I immediately jump to.

 

[Ottoeight]

That seems like a good reason, yeah. If you really like the game, you are gonna wait, no problem. But long waiting times and updates that are not big will always make some people leave the boat. That's inevitable, I think.

The reason why this game is unpopular?

Easy peasy:

1) this thread's fucking overview is killing it

2) pictures in the OP are killing it

3) game's overview in Patreon's page

4) how the story starts - everybody should keep on reading it until Elsa makes Edward cut his hair, at least.

Since this game's first updates came out I asked the uploader / F95 mods: "please change the overview and the pictures because they're killing the game". Nada.

What can I do? I'm not a mod.

Anyway, if anyone wants to help, well... why don't you put this game's banner in your signature like I did?

Believe me: it helps. I downloaded and played quite a few games because of some users' signatures. Quite a few