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truthpolice

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Meh. Good old Aphrodisiac could've worked.
Make X do the call to Clara and telling her "Ouch, that kiss probably hurt, but there's wine bottle I left in your room" and make Leon tell her that he's gotten message from X to come to her etc etc.

There were numerous ways to write this without players showing their hand before Flop and out of all the options one of the bad ones was chosen, imo.
Eww aphrodisiac trope is the worst one you could use in a story and is overused and cliched :HideThePain:. Is this the genius idea you have lol
 
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MoBy28

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Clara is unsatisfied with Alan and is put in several tempting situations
You keep saying that but have yet to answer the question I posed to you about this same comment in an earlier post.
If she is so unsatisfied why are they still married and why hasn't it happened before? I'm sure as attractive as she is made out to be she has had opportunities before now as well as tempting situations. Does she go home drunk and/or horny to be with her husband only to be left even more unstatisfied and frustrated? Seems if that's the case it would have happened very early on in the marriage instead of now in the middle of a "major" mission.

Most people I have seen arguing this point are mainly not happy with how easy and quickly it happened for her to do it now with the "kiss" being the triggering point. That, on top of what her character is supposed to be, doesn't make sense to some people. Also I saw where the Dev gave extra info about her having issues yet to be revealed. Not even gonna get into the whole "top field agent" thing about that. I posed the question about if she has ever had to do anything in earlier missions like that or worse but I don't think anyone but the Dev knows yet. If so you she has no real right to get upset over "the kiss".

I think the biggest issue will be solved when things get revealed but it may have been a little better to reveal those before hand so people understood "the real reason". Usually in a story you get to know about the main characters a bit before things go sideways so you can kind of understand the motivation. Sometimes revealing too soon can hurt a story and sometimes it can help it. Not sure which in this case but if people are disappointed with the way things go they tend to stop playing. Personally I'm giving it a bit more time before I pass judgement (hopefully until I at least get to play to this point).
 

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You keep saying that but have yet to answer the question I posed to you about this same comment in an earlier post.
If she is so unsatisfied why are they still married and why hasn't it happened before? I'm sure as attractive as she is made out to be she has had opportunities before now as well as tempting situations. Does she go home drunk and/or horny to be with her husband only to be left even more unstatisfied and frustrated? Seems if that's the case it would have happened very early on in the marriage instead of now in the middle of a "major" mission.

Most people I have seen arguing this point are mainly not happy with how easy and quickly it happened for her to do it now with the "kiss" being the triggering point. That, on top of what her character is supposed to be, doesn't make sense to some people. Also I saw where the Dev gave extra info about her having issues yet to be revealed. Not even gonna get into the whole "top field agent" thing about that. I posed the question about if she has ever had to do anything in earlier missions like that or worse but I don't think anyone but the Dev knows yet. If so you she has no real right to get upset over "the kiss".

I think the biggest issue will be solved when things get revealed but it may have been a little better to reveal those before hand so people understood "the real reason". Usually in a story you get to know about the main characters a bit before things go sideways so you can kind of understand the motivation. Sometimes revealing too soon can hurt a story and sometimes it can help it. Not sure which in this case but if people are disappointed with the way things go they tend to stop playing. Personally I'm giving it a bit more time before I pass judgement (hopefully until I at least get to play to this point).
So you answered your own question
 
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truthpolice

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You keep saying that but have yet to answer the question I posed to you about this same comment in an earlier post.
If she is so unsatisfied why are they still married and why hasn't it happened before? I'm sure as attractive as she is made out to be she has had opportunities before now as well as tempting situations. Does she go home drunk and/or horny to be with her husband only to be left even more unstatisfied and frustrated? Seems if that's the case it would have happened very early on in the marriage instead of now in the middle of a "major" mission.

Most people I have seen arguing this point are mainly not happy with how easy and quickly it happened for her to do it now with the "kiss" being the triggering point. That, on top of what her character is supposed to be, doesn't make sense to some people. Also I saw where the Dev gave extra info about her having issues yet to be revealed. Not even gonna get into the whole "top field agent" thing about that. I posed the question about if she has ever had to do anything in earlier missions like that or worse but I don't think anyone but the Dev knows yet. If so you she has no real right to get upset over "the kiss".

I think the biggest issue will be solved when things get revealed but it may have been a little better to reveal those before hand so people understood "the real reason". Usually in a story you get to know about the main characters a bit before things go sideways so you can kind of understand the motivation. Sometimes revealing too soon can hurt a story and sometimes it can help it. Not sure which in this case but if people are disappointed with the way things go they tend to stop playing. Personally I'm giving it a bit more time before I pass judgement (hopefully until I at least get to play to this point).
It seems like you haven't clearly played the game properly. It was said more than once that Clara was a assassin and had never been a spy before nor had she done any seduction missions before this. There is a difference between being a top spy and being a top assassin. One involves collecting information using multiple methods which includes seduction as well and the other mainly involves killing.
 

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It seems like you haven't clearly played the game properly. It was said more than once that Clara was a assassin and had never been a spy before nor had she done any seduction missions before this. There is a difference between being a top spy and being a top assassin. One involves collecting information using multiple methods which includes seduction as well and the other mainly involves killing.
Then explain why she feeling "betrayed" by Alan when she already seduced others multiple times (then eventually cheated on him)
 

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Really funny! It's not the first time you've been here and you still haven't realized that you're playing a porn game! Here all the characters are fucking or enjoying the view!:WeSmart:
Do you know the meaning of the word - game? Maybe you should play porn games, and not just look at pictures? In your case, it's better to keep silent, you'll pass for smart.
 

MoBy28

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It seems like you haven't clearly played the game properly. It was said more than once that Clara was a assassin and had never been a spy before nor had she done any seduction missions before this. There is a difference between being a top spy and being a top assassin. One involves collecting information using multiple methods which includes seduction as well and the other mainly involves killing.
Overview:
You are a prodigal hacker, plunged deep into the heart of espionage at a company with dark secrets. Your wife, Clara, the most beautiful woman you had ever set eyes upon and an elite secret agent, is by your side, but the waters are treacherous.
Both of you are tasked to infiltrate a powerful company as spies along with your intern, Anna. As layers of betrayal unfold and lines between ally and enemy blur, it will be up to you if you can save the world, protect your loved ones while dealing with your own demons.
But remember, in this game of shadows, trust can be the most dangerous weapon of all.
Note: This is a Netorare focused game.
Notice the underlined. Also assassination isn't just take aim and pew pew. You have to do almost everything a regular spy would depending on the mission, especially if your supposed to be one of the top ones. You might need to infiltrate a group or secure building, get close to the target or find a way to get them to expose themselves. For example look at the Bourne series. Look at the skillset he had. Another one is the Jackal, If you haven't seen it's an older one but the assassin seduces a man and a woman at different times to gain access to things needed for his mission(places and information). Any top or even good assassin has to be able to gather information, infiltrate, and stay emotionally distant.

Now if you want here is the real kicker to the entire thing. She pretty much just just risked the ENTIRE mission for her "revenge" and now she has screwed herself by giving Leon blackmail to use against her whenever he chooses(insert the fuckfest starting now). Shows she is really mentally and emotionally fit to be a top assassin right? If she was caught in the act what would have happened? When Alan finds out what will happen? He will be more emotionally disturbed than her especially since it was way more than a kiss, will he be able to focus and do his job properly and not want his own revenge on them? Surely not since a top assassin couldn't control her emotions. "He must deal with his own demons". I'm curious to see what his reaction will be(probably not realistic) since that will set the tone for the rest of the story if he finds out right away. If he reacts as badly as she did then it will probably be a game over scenario so to continue you will probably have to accept her cheating and be a "good" husband. It looks like it will be like I said earlier a cheating/cuck story with maybe the option to leave (emotionally devastated) when it's all over or accept being a cuck.
 

MoBy28

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So you answered your own question
Try rereading it. Nowhere in there did I even try to answer the WHY are they still married question. As for the other part of my post it shows why the cheating would have happened way before this mission. Which probably would have ended the marriage or him become a cuck way before this mission. If she kept it hidden then why would she even bother rejecting the early on advances if she is already a cheater?
 

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:unsure:What if Clara is given the task of killing Leon, or Alan and she will also hesitate because her emotions will get the better of her, the creator will definitely not give you a choice and she will not kill him, especially after he fucked her? Yes. It's easy to break her with one kiss. She should be sent for emotional control training as soon as possible. Because during the mission he poses a threat to himself and the success of the mission.
 
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I'm content to let the game play out as it is. Just because things have gotten messy with Clara doesn't mean that the whole VN is trash. After all, the main dramatic thrust of the story is what Alan is going to do about it. Try to salvage things with Clara or move on with the other girl. After all, the name of the game is corrupted hearts. Plural. The worst is yet to come :devilish:
 

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Notice the underlined. Also assassination isn't just take aim and pew pew. You have to do almost everything a regular spy would depending on the mission, especially if your supposed to be one of the top ones. You might need to infiltrate a group or secure building, get close to the target or find a way to get them to expose themselves. For example look at the Bourne series. Look at the skillset he had. Another one is the Jackal, If you haven't seen it's an older one but the assassin seduces a man and a woman at different times to gain access to things needed for his mission(places and information). Any top or even good assassin has to be able to gather information, infiltrate, and stay emotionally distant.

Now if you want here is the real kicker to the entire thing. She pretty much just just risked the ENTIRE mission for her "revenge" and now she has screwed herself by giving Leon blackmail to use against her whenever he chooses(insert the fuckfest starting now). Shows she is really mentally and emotionally fit to be a top assassin right? If she was caught in the act what would have happened? When Alan finds out what will happen? He will be more emotionally disturbed than her especially since it was way more than a kiss, will he be able to focus and do his job properly and not want his own revenge on them? Surely not since a top assassin couldn't control her emotions. "He must deal with his own demons". I'm curious to see what his reaction will be(probably not realistic) since that will set the tone for the rest of the story if he finds out right away. If he reacts as badly as she did then it will probably be a game over scenario so to continue you will probably have to accept her cheating and be a "good" husband. It looks like it will be like I said earlier a cheating/cuck story with maybe the option to leave (emotionally devastated) when it's all over or accept being a cuck.
There are different types of assassins. What you suggested is a spy+Assassin combo. The story never mentioned she was one but clearly mentioned she never undertook any spy missions, definitely not something that required long term infiltration like the current mission.

They are given a target and they just take them down when the target is vulnerable like the game showcased in the early updates. She does stay emotionally distant when she kills and feels no guilt. But Alan isn't some random guy and anything related to him would affect her emotionally unless she is supposed to be that cold which she isn't.

She didn't sleep with Leon because of Revenge. Never once did she have a thought that she was doing it to get back at Alan. So why are you trying to make smoke without fire? She also doesn't know if Leon is a bad guy and sees him like a supportive friend before this even happened. He was the only who was there to support her. He seduced her plain and through despite her attempts at telling him to stop. That is clear proof she wasn't doing it to get back at Alan but got swept away under Leon's influence.

I still don't get why so many are raving that this happened because of a kiss when the game clearly planted it on our faces that so much more happened before the kiss.

This is definitely a story that involves cheating. I don't know why you are acting surprised when the summary itself says that it involves cheating. But how the cheating is handled or dealt with is the unknown factor. And there are good ways to handle it. Period.
 

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I'm content to let the game play out as it is. Just because things have gotten messy with Clara doesn't mean that the whole VN is trash. After all, the main dramatic thrust of the story is what Alan is going to do about it. Try to salvage things with Clara or move on with the other girl. After all, the name of the game is corrupted hearts. Plural. The worst is yet to come :devilish:
I'm with you! I'm also happy that the game is going the way it is! Alan is blissfully unaware! Alan is currently just beginning to realize that something is going on with Clara. Firstly, he is worried about mysterious messages and changes in Clara herself. The last message about Leon near Clara's apartment really cheered Alan up! And the worst is really ahead, because Alan may be shown a photo confirming that Leon spent the night at Clara's. Well then Alan will have to act! There are possible options ! In the meantime, I suggest the external signs of unfaithful husbands and wives!
 
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MoBy28

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There are different types of assassins. What you suggested is a spy+Assassin combo. The story never mentioned she was one but clearly mentioned she never undertook any spy missions, definitely not something that required long term infiltration like the current mission.

They are given a target and they just take them down when the target is vulnerable like the game showcased in the early updates. She does stay emotionally distant when she kills and feels no guilt. But Alan isn't some random guy and anything related to him would affect her emotionally unless she is supposed to be that cold which she isn't.

She didn't sleep with Leon because of Revenge. Never once did she have a thought that she was doing it to get back at Alan. So why are you trying to make smoke without fire? She also doesn't know if Leon is a bad guy and sees him like a supportive friend before this even happened. He was the only who was there to support her. He seduced her plain and through despite her attempts at telling him to stop. That is clear proof she wasn't doing it to get back at Alan but got swept away under Leon's influence.

I still don't get why so many are raving that this happened because of a kiss when the game clearly planted it on our faces that so much more happened before the kiss.

This is definitely a story that involves cheating. I don't know why you are acting surprised when the summary itself says that it involves cheating. But how the cheating is handled or dealt with is the unknown factor. And there are good ways to handle it. Period.
So basically she is just a run of the mill assassin and not a top notch one. The skills involved make all the difference in being at the top or being average. Not every target makes themselves easily available and by calling her a top assassin means she can get to the difficult ones also which requires more than just sit wait and pew pew. Maybe it shouldn't have been stated she was top notch type thing as it would have avoided alot of the issues people are having with her breaking so easily. Maybe a promising or upcoming secret agent would have been better.

If not for revenge then why was the Kiss the even a catalyst that started the entire event? I don't think Seducing her is the right term if she was telling him to stop it would be more like rape, but she is a trained killer so she had to want it or she would have stopped him like she did before. Until the kiss she spurned Leon's advances, after the kiss she let it continue. It only takes one final thing to be the "straw that breaks the camel's back" Hence why it is being used as the trigger for the event. So she has no idea of his and her husband's past? She doesn't know what Leon's family did to his? Like I said she just gave Leon all the ammo he needs to make her a fucktoy for whoever and whenever he wants(cumdump wife anyone), unless she confesses to hubby about it and he just HAS to be ok with it for the story to continue. He'll be able to control himself unlike his trained assassin wife and complete the mission without issue(very unrealistic as not only did she betray him but with his enemy on top of it but he'll forgive and forget to make the happy marriage ending). IMO it would have been better if it was a more forced way but as it stands I don't see the staying married anywhere in the future unless he wants to be her cuck. Since the story is just beginning he's probably going to have to go through alot more cheating and probably have to watch as things get worse. On a positive note I'm quite sure she'll be satisfied quite a bit by the time the mission is over and probably have some new husband prospects. As for him getting Anne, besides her being one of the manipulators behind the break up, remember she still has the NTR option as well and unless you used a cheat mod or something similiar you don't know if that choice has been made already(possibly breaking her kiss early?). So it's quite possible he will get NTR'ed by her as well.

So let's say it wasn't for revenge she has now jeopardized the entire mission and her marriage to satisfy some urge of hers. I used jeopardized her marriage so people can keep the illusion of a happy ending that includes them staying married. The only thing I see about the way it will be handled is about his revenge or lack of depending on what the dev's choices allow. I'll refer to one of my posts above about the Corruption leading to a bad ending, so you'll only be allowed to do what the dev let's you, to still finish the story.

Never said I was surprised about the cheating that was the others arguing about taking the save the marriage path. I mentioned that said same path would be the cuck route. Really what good ways are there to handle a cheating spouse? Personally I have known 5 couples to go through a cheating incident. 2 split right off the bat. 2 tried to work through things but with the trust being broken it only made things worse. One could not trust the other and the smallest things triggered fights until they finally split 1-2 years later. Probably would have been better if they just broke it off to begin with but they agreed to give it a shot. The last seem to be ok until less than a year later it happened all over again. Once a cheater always a cheater. There is a reason why the vast majority of divorces are caused due to infidelity. It's not normal human nature to just accept being with someone you do not or can not trust and that has betrayed you. Doesn't matter the reasons which in this stories case is he can't satisfy her which means it will happen again she just can't help herself as we have seen. So the only way I see saving the marriage is to become a cuck unless he's just going to be in denial that she ever has or is cheating on him which amounts to the same thing. Unless some mysterious magic force gives him a horse cock to please her, she will never be satisfied with him sexually which means she WILL do it again because well she isn't satisfied by him.

The sad thing is I was really looking forward to playing this but the more it's discussed the more it seems to be just another Cuck story just with a mystery to solve in it. You can dress a cuck story up anyway you like to but it's still a cuck story. If that's case it will be apparent very soon in the story maybe 1-2 updates tops to know for sure. Unless they are all backstory based and no real story progression happens. Truthfully I hope I'm wrong and it gets better but with all the developments that have happened it just seems way too likely she becomes a cumdump and him a cuck until the end. It's not like the MC can stand up to Leon and say stay away from my wife since you have the behind the scenes manipulator so that whole being "strong" just means the MC has to suck it up and still be a cuck until it's over.

FYI I do enjoy being able to have a civilized conversation/debate with you. Most of these turn into name calling and stupid crap like that.
 

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She didn't sleep with Leon because of Revenge. Never once did she have a thought that she was doing it to get back at Alan. So why are you trying to make smoke without fire? She also doesn't know if Leon is a bad guy and sees him like a supportive friend before this even happened. He was the only who was there to support her. He seduced her plain and through despite her attempts at telling him to stop. That is clear proof she wasn't doing it to get back at Alan but got swept away under Leon's influence.
But she slept with Leon because she had doubts and thought that Anna and Alan's kiss might have been sex between them. She was heartbroken and helpless, she was devastated and started drinking wine to drown her sadness and dispel her doubts. X told Anna to kiss Alan so that Clara could see it. And Leon appears, seemingly by accident, supposedly to comfort the devastated Klara, probably X letting him know that she is broken and sad. Come comfort her. And strangely enough, Leon came, took advantage of her moment of weakness and seduced her. And Klara refused Leon so much that she agreed (Here, the creator should have given the player a choice as to whether Leon should fuck Klara). What if Mr. X arranged everything? Klara will break down when she sees that Alan kissed Ania. Anna will get Alan. Leon Klara. I'm sure the creator will give the choice here that Alan will fuck Anna
 
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But she slept with Leon because she had doubts and thought that Anna and Alan's kiss might have been sex between them. She was heartbroken and helpless, she was devastated and started drinking wine to drown her sadness and dispel her doubts. X told Anna to kiss Alan so that Clara could see it. And strangely enough, Leon came, took advantage of her moment of weakness and seduced her. And Klara refused Leon so much that she agreed (Here, the creator should have given the player a choice as to whether Leon should fuck Klara). What if Mr. X arranged everything? Klara will break down when she sees that Alan kissed Anne. Anna will get Alan. Leon Klara. I'm sure the creator will give the choice here that Alan will fuck Anna
Everyone knows that alcohol never leads to poor decision making or regretful behavior.
 

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Everyone knows that alcohol never leads to poor decision making or regretful behavior.
I think you made a mistake there, my friend. It was about this I guess, on the contrary, alcohol always leads to a bad decision.
 
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I keep seeing that it will be up to us to fix this... shouldn't it be up to Clara. After all she is the one that fucked up.
It's why the only way I can see a cuckless "good" ending, is if she makes it up to Alan, in a grand way.

Clara's reaction though... leave me with little hope that the dev can write that fulfilling-ly.
 
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