Grumpybum
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What, you never been "Rick Rolled" before?
Welcome to the internet bro, we've been waiting for you...
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Welcome to the internet bro, we've been waiting for you...
Never go from hot blonde to hairy grandma, Never go from hot blonde to hairy grandma, Never go from hot blonde to hairy grandma... hope the Dev learns some common sense.
After playing through the VN for the first time, I was impressed. I really liked the art, the characters, and the story were pretty good and interesting. I was worried about both characters. I really wanted to know how it would end.
BUT
Something was bothering me, so I decided to play it a second time, this time for all the characters.
And I realized what was bothering me.
BUT
Something was bothering me, so I decided to play it a second time, this time for all the characters.
And I realized what was bothering me.
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would take her out into an open field, put her face against the wall, and put a bullet through her forehead.
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Welcome to the crux of why this game attracts so much criticism
Personally, I think, that in order to make a hard unavoidable NTR scenario, the dev ended up taking way too many liberties. Like he was sublty setting up the couple to fail from the beginning so players won't feel so bad about the imminent collapse of the relationship. The wife being a "smart agent" fell for classic trap of trusting a guy who clearly has a messy history with her husband's family. And the husband himself lacks alpha traits with his history painted as "a loser son of a loser father whose wife didn't love him at all".
But, I guess what irks me the most is that we are supposed to believe that there is still a redemption path here. Like somehow, even through all the BS, we're supposed to see a future where both of them get through this together and then live happily ever after. While not out of the realm of possibility, the only way that'd happen would be for the MMC to let all be forgiven unconditionally. Which would only dilute his personality further after what the wife put him through.
It could have worked better if there was avoidable NTR with elements of "opportunity". Based on player action, the couple would either traverse the web of lies and deceit and have more faith in each other, or not? Then yes, this would be an interesting multi path game. But, not in the current state. In the current state, we're pigeon holed into a story that, frankly, I'm not even sure where it is going.
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Lmaoooo i feel the very opposite that small dick loser Alan who is Clara's husband is the one deserves to be cucked by her and especially with Leon coz he is twice the man that he is lol..Alan who is the mc btw cant even properly satisfy the Goddess of a wife that he has and so he is the one who deserves to get shot in the head lol..i mean as a man if you cant even satisfy your hottt blonde wife then you definitely deserve to get cucked..and talking about shooting her in the head you think Alan would even have the balls to do soo he is a weak nerdy geeky computer analyst where as Clara is a cold blooded assassin so even in your dreams he wouldn't be able to kill her and it would instead be Clara who would first shoot off his small limp dick and then shoot him in the head for being a loser cuck lmaooo..
The point is that this scene appears too early in this version.
It simply declares to the reader that MC's wife is a common whore and not a loving wife, and completely negates all the work to create atmosphere,
I assume this is a mistake in the previous build, and if not, this VN has no future.
In principle, you can still worry about the fate of MC and his intern.
But it's not that interesting.
It simply declares to the reader that MC's wife is a common whore and not a loving wife, and completely negates all the work to create atmosphere,
I assume this is a mistake in the previous build, and if not, this VN has no future.
In principle, you can still worry about the fate of MC and his intern.
But it's not that interesting.
A unique perspective on history.Lmaoooo i feel the very opposite that small dick loser Alan who is Clara's husband is the one deserves to be cucked by her and especially with Leon coz he is twice the man that he is lol..Alan who is the mc btw cant even properly satisfy the Goddess of a wife that he has and so he is the one who deserves to get shot in the head lol..i mean as a man if you cant even satisfy your hottt blonde wife then you definitely deserve to get cucked..and talking about shooting her in the head you think Alan would even have the balls to do soo he is a weak nerdy geeky computer analyst where as Clara is a cold blooded assassin so even in your dreams he wouldn't be able to kill her and it would instead be Clara who would first shoot off his small limp dick and then shoot him in the head for being a loser cuck lmaooo..
Why do you even think Alan is a loser?
That he can't satisfy his wife?
That he can't shoot anyone.
Of all the downsides you listed, the only one is that his dick is smaller than the villain's, but judging by his actions, he has bigger balls.
. In the CIA, all agents, including analysts, undergo combat training.
Yes, he's a hacker analyst, but it's hard to call him a loser.
So, if you chose to be a loser during the playthrough, good riddance.
And as for shooting his useless wife,
the plot clearly hints that in the end she'll be framed for treason.
And he'll have a choice: serve his country or be a cuck.
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Dear readers! This spontaneous sex scene between Clara and the insidious seducer with the suspicious name Leon has already happened! This is a fact and nothing can be undone! However, it is possible and even necessary to try to find an excuse for Clara's behavior. Because the Author himself, instead of describing in detail the motives for Clara, said literally: I just want sex between Clara and Leon to happen at this time and under such circumstances! Period! But as a sex therapist, I use ellipsis. My version is based on information about Clara as an extraordinary person! Clara is a murderer, but with solid moral principles! Clara has never used sex as a tool to complete a task. And it's not about having obligations to her husband, it's about Clara herself!This last task immediately went wrong, and for the first time, Clara was forced to submit to someone else's will. Clara kept all her emotions in the depths of her personality, and these emotions so roused her nerves that Clara's mental state and sensitivity became similar...the condition of a woman immediately after multiple orgasms. Women are lucky in this ability compared to men! Men have only one orgasm and then wait for your body to come to its senses! But in this state of hypersensitivity, it is better not to touch a woman's clitoris. The reaction will be extremely devastating. That picture of Alan and Anna kissing was perceived precisely as touching Clara's clitoris, ready to explode from overexcitation. Clara, out of an overabundance of feelings, went to cry to her only true friend. A bottle of red wine comforted Clara and prepared her to surrender to Leon. Kill and bury this Leon...
To properly understand this scene, we need to clarify one detail.
All the indignant people mistakenly conclude that we're dealing with a mutually loving married couple (the author tells us this at the very beginning). In reality, only Alan is the loving husband. Clara simply doesn't share his feelings, and all her assurances and thoughts are nothing more than ordinary affection. Accordingly, this scene isn't anything extraordinary for her.
I'll explain.
If we were talking about an ordinary housewife who's easily fooled, then this scene might make some sense, but Clara is an experienced field agent assigned to lead a complex operation, a professional cold-blooded killer. random people with weak psyches don't end up there.
Upon seeing "evidence of infidelity" for the First! time, the first thing a motivated and loving partner would do is doubt what they saw and try to communicate to find out what's going on. Jumping on the dick of the first person who pitied you without even a second's doubt about what you saw is completely inconsistent with the picture of Clara that the author tried to paint for us from the very beginning, and neither wine nor persuasion would have worked if she didn't want it, but she wants it, and she gets it.
And we see what we see.
We can't say she broke down, because the next day, she calmly reflects that she won't tell her husband about it, so as not to upset him...... There's no love here from the very beginning.
Just another NTR with a poor Alan and a lying, unfaithful wife who doesn't respect him at all.
Basically, you can immediately go to Anna's thread, because supporting Clara is a pointless and stupid option.
Draw your own conclusions from there.
All the indignant people mistakenly conclude that we're dealing with a mutually loving married couple (the author tells us this at the very beginning). In reality, only Alan is the loving husband. Clara simply doesn't share his feelings, and all her assurances and thoughts are nothing more than ordinary affection. Accordingly, this scene isn't anything extraordinary for her.
I'll explain.
If we were talking about an ordinary housewife who's easily fooled, then this scene might make some sense, but Clara is an experienced field agent assigned to lead a complex operation, a professional cold-blooded killer. random people with weak psyches don't end up there.
Upon seeing "evidence of infidelity" for the First! time, the first thing a motivated and loving partner would do is doubt what they saw and try to communicate to find out what's going on. Jumping on the dick of the first person who pitied you without even a second's doubt about what you saw is completely inconsistent with the picture of Clara that the author tried to paint for us from the very beginning, and neither wine nor persuasion would have worked if she didn't want it, but she wants it, and she gets it.
And we see what we see.
We can't say she broke down, because the next day, she calmly reflects that she won't tell her husband about it, so as not to upset him...... There's no love here from the very beginning.
Just another NTR with a poor Alan and a lying, unfaithful wife who doesn't respect him at all.
Basically, you can immediately go to Anna's thread, because supporting Clara is a pointless and stupid option.
Draw your own conclusions from there.
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Debatable. While I don't sympathize much with Clara, Anna herself is no saint. Her fixation with Alan is borderline psychopathic. It starts as a crush on an already married man- a red flag but still relatively harmless. But then just like Clara, she sees things out of context in the cinema and immediately goes full possessive. Like she secretly needed an excuse to tear Clara and Alan apart, and now she has it, no matter how flimsy it is.
She is so laser focused on Alan now, that even his mother looks like an irritant entity in her eyes. And she will drop to any level, even join hands with the force that is actively torturing Alan mentally, just so that he can have him in the end.
From what I see, there is not one soul in this game who isn't foolish or evil in one form or the other. And it seems Alan is the only one who comes close to being the definition of an "innocent victim". But hey, that is the common NTR troupe. Kick the gentle guy cause he is an easy weakling target. I mean, how did they even end up being married- Alan and Clara?
In a real world, a girl with looks and prospects like that wouldn't end up with a guy like Alan, unless they both were madly in love with each other. And those kind of couples don't jump to relationship wrecking conclusions at the drop of a hat.
I agree, but I suggested Anna's route because at this stage it is the lesser evil.
And completely disagree here. She didn't marry him out of love. I'd suggest it's due to childhood insecurities or the teddy bear figure. We mustn't forget that the author's initial assumptions about feelings and motives aren't always accurate.
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You've broadcast so much information that you can build another logical chain that connects the past with the present. What does it mean? We haven't seen it, but there are dialogues between Alan and Clara about how they met. Alan started poking his nose into other people's computer business 5 years ago. The security services assigned Clara to protect a useful hacker. Clara and Alan spent a lot of time together and once they had a drink, kissed in the evening, and woke up naked in the same bed in the morning. Alan, as an honest "nerd", simply had to marry Clara! It happens that way. Now Clara saw Anna reaching for Alan with her lips and immediately remembered the consequences of that old kiss. That kiss ended with sex! So Clara got hooked .
Okay, I'll play this game.
Let's assume that for Anna, a photo of an innocent kiss is the equivalent of anal sex. Yes, it hurts, after all you've done for him, he repaid you by kissing(butt-fucking) his subordinate.
The right thing to do is do the same. And hide this event from the culprit. I understand, women often act illogically.
I'm not asking what prevented her from leaving the room, driving a few floors, meeting her beloved husband, and making him explain himself.
I'm not asking why the next day, beyond remorse, she only had a few thoughts. And she was perfectly aware that if he found out about it, it would destroy him, but that's nothing—it's enough to drink some wine and relax.
And now, the icing on the cake, let's go back to Anna's room during the unsuccessful blowjob—what she said, and especially the way she expressed it, is worse for a man than her betrayal. I'm more than sure she was perfectly aware of the magnitude of her words and yet, completely cold-bloodedly, she let down her beloved.
Honestly, when I read their dialogue, I was surprised there was no option to punch her in the face and leave.
Tell me, where is the love here that the author talks about?
All I see is jealousy, anger, and deception.
Although love exists, Alan, despite all this, forgave and
made peace with Anna. Anna didn't even try to make amends.
It all seems absurd.
Let's assume that for Anna, a photo of an innocent kiss is the equivalent of anal sex. Yes, it hurts, after all you've done for him, he repaid you by kissing
The right thing to do is do the same. And hide this event from the culprit. I understand, women often act illogically.
I'm not asking what prevented her from leaving the room, driving a few floors, meeting her beloved husband, and making him explain himself.
I'm not asking why the next day, beyond remorse, she only had a few thoughts. And she was perfectly aware that if he found out about it, it would destroy him, but that's nothing—it's enough to drink some wine and relax.
And now, the icing on the cake, let's go back to Anna's room during the unsuccessful blowjob—what she said, and especially the way she expressed it, is worse for a man than her betrayal. I'm more than sure she was perfectly aware of the magnitude of her words and yet, completely cold-bloodedly, she let down her beloved.
Honestly, when I read their dialogue, I was surprised there was no option to punch her in the face and leave.
Tell me, where is the love here that the author talks about?
All I see is jealousy, anger, and deception.
Although love exists, Alan, despite all this, forgave and
made peace with Anna. Anna didn't even try to make amends.
It all seems absurd.
UpravDom
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I say that life is the sweetest thing in this world for a person, not love! Love is just a part of life.
The problem is that the author initially sets high standards. And slowburn promises. But as a result, everything falls into a typical low-key cliched NTR.
We have a "weak" Alan, married people cannot talk to each other, which is very poorly explained. A wife is constantly being seduced, very professionally. She sees her husband's kiss, gets drunk, and cheats on him. It's a very common story even without a professional seducer. But there are questions about the claimed author of slowburn and the high standards of the script. And there are also questions about their love, which she keeps telling herself. The problem is that all the walls that the author built to create this situation are glass for durability. And you really lose faith in the story, the characters, and the plot.
Because it becomes just a cliched set of scenes from so many simple NTRs.
Here she had handjob, blowjob, titjob, oral, sex and so on, the fact that it happens to different men does not count at all, but everyone understands that almost any woman should understand that if she sucked one, she does not necessarily have to fuck the next.
In the original plot, we had a tough, cold-blooded killer, but to test, she immediately turned out to be an ordinary weak and stupid woman, while also weak to have sex with a seducer. Some kind of resistance, attempts, to do something? No, she's just following the circumstances. Not even trying to resist. This destroys faith in the entire base built at the beginning of the story.
And it might even work with a stretch, but the author builds glass walls too much.
Dialogues, torments of conscience, attempts, albeit stupid ones, to do something, a lot of sexual pressure, a la sensitivity enhancement and constant harassment, a lot of things could be, but none of this is there. And considering that this is version 0.7, apparently this was not planned. A good start, and then rush to the end. Through the most typical cliches and scene building in NTR games.
Too bad, too bad. It could have been really cool. And it was, up to a certain point.
Although if you take the option that this is version at least 0.4 and add all the necessary elements, the game can shine and become a real diamond, as expected.
We have a "weak" Alan, married people cannot talk to each other, which is very poorly explained. A wife is constantly being seduced, very professionally. She sees her husband's kiss, gets drunk, and cheats on him. It's a very common story even without a professional seducer. But there are questions about the claimed author of slowburn and the high standards of the script. And there are also questions about their love, which she keeps telling herself. The problem is that all the walls that the author built to create this situation are glass for durability. And you really lose faith in the story, the characters, and the plot.
Because it becomes just a cliched set of scenes from so many simple NTRs.
Here she had handjob, blowjob, titjob, oral, sex and so on, the fact that it happens to different men does not count at all, but everyone understands that almost any woman should understand that if she sucked one, she does not necessarily have to fuck the next.
In the original plot, we had a tough, cold-blooded killer, but to test, she immediately turned out to be an ordinary weak and stupid woman, while also weak to have sex with a seducer. Some kind of resistance, attempts, to do something? No, she's just following the circumstances. Not even trying to resist. This destroys faith in the entire base built at the beginning of the story.
And it might even work with a stretch, but the author builds glass walls too much.
Dialogues, torments of conscience, attempts, albeit stupid ones, to do something, a lot of sexual pressure, a la sensitivity enhancement and constant harassment, a lot of things could be, but none of this is there. And considering that this is version 0.7, apparently this was not planned. A good start, and then rush to the end. Through the most typical cliches and scene building in NTR games.
Too bad, too bad. It could have been really cool. And it was, up to a certain point.
Although if you take the option that this is version at least 0.4 and add all the necessary elements, the game can shine and become a real diamond, as expected.
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I appreciate your opinion! But I can't help but like the image of Clara. As Trump says, I have a card that can be laid out on the table! The author could have chosen the moment to reveal a secret of this kind. This is the capsule that Leon gave to Clara to put Ben to sleep. The capsule didn't work well.And why? Because Clara was supposed to kill Ben and get caught on surveillance camera. It's an indestructible piece of evidence against her. But that's not all. The capsule could contain a second component designed for long-term effects on individual parts of Clara's brain and cerebellum, which weakened the girl's will, stamina and increased the sensitivity of erogenous zones, libido. At the same time, addiction to pleasure, caresses, and intimacy gradually accumulates in her mind and personality, and Klara feels these changes in herself and tries to resist. But vulgar desires slowly and persistently occupy the most convenient places in Clara's personality! Ouch! I think I got carried away. The author should give something like that! Let Leon reveal this secret to Anna! That could make things better....maybe!