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blackmasha

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I like most of the redesigns, especially Morgana who went from weird tree-like abomination to hot green slut. However... wtf happened to Gwen?! Her previous look was great, maybe just needed some slight tweaks but now she looks childish and dumb.

As for the game itself, i wish dev focused more on one part of the game before moving on to the next. Some time ago we had few updates about Organization, met the chief and his daughter but in the end basically nothing happened both in terms of story and h-scenes...and we moved on to something else, University if i remember correctly. Again, few weeks of blue balling and the best we got was blowjob from Veronica. Now Eldritch seem to be FOTM, some nonsense about doors and keys, Eldritch destroying/consuming worlds... yea, ok. What about really important issues like mind-zapping and enslaving Chastity and that new white haired nun-boss?
so.. you're just going to ignore the volleyball team and every single female at the university? (some of them look super cute!)

tho I would agree more scenes with the same side characters would be nice. like the "we wash your car for money while being half naked, hell we would probably have sex with you even without your powers" 3 very nice young ladies who apparently need the job to help raise their school funds or whatever it was again. and those Karate looking warrior sisters. I get where you're coming from, you get hooked on a new girl and then the story just moves to the next one and you start screaming "that's it?! nooo!! I wanted more scenes with this nice and polite lady!"
 
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StarsMan423

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Redesigning Koikatu model isn't that hard. Replacing the old model with the new models in the game animations? That would take more time but since I haven't done something like that myself I won't speak too much about it. I could say that Arc could straight up fix most of the characters in under a hour or two. Just putting my words out there since I tested out the character creator.
 
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masterdragonson

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Redesigning Koikatu model isn't that hard. Replacing the old model with the new models in the game animations? That would take more time but since I haven't done something like that myself I won't speak too much about it. I could say that Arc could straight up fix most of the characters in under a hour or two. Just putting my words out there since I tested out the character creator.
Well Arc did a massive overhaul (Changing out over 1,682+ assets) in less than a week :coffee: Unless you go with a conspiracy theory he wasn't nearly as preoccupied as he claimed to be or he could get way more then 2 events per week if given the right motivation.

Koikatu models could take longer if you go with custom modding which some of the Original Artist clearly did, especially those that work on Monster Girls. Then an artist might scrutinize little aspects to get there creation to shine just the way they want. Some could even spend weeks agonizing over this process. A few might poll different ideas to get feedback from their fans.

CursedFlame91 is currently conducting A Character Comparison Poll on Arc's behalf. Though funny enough it doesn't seem like Arc ever did mention that to his patrons...
 
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ankhtar

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That really depends, mostly on whether he's a perfectionist or not, then there's also the sheer amount of modded content out there he may or may not have. I can't speak for the scenes either because I just don't have the mental fortitude necessary to create them, but a good looking character can take several hours to make, not to mention the trial and error phase that follows in which he'd have to make sure the character holds up to his standards from different angles, not just from the front.
Considering the amount of characters in game right now (sides included), it's something that could very well take a while to do.
 

KnowNoHope

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Aight, Imma one-up myself.
I made a google form. You can do the same that I did and give a rating and a comment about each one of the redesigns I covered.



All feedback is appreciated.
thing about that it, it looks like you can do it multiple times allowing for rigging
 
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masterdragonson

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thing about that it, it looks like you can do it multiple times allowing for rigging
Well Arc could have did a poll on Patreon and SubscribeStar with user authentication but he would probably have to go into some details about why the change was necessary otherwise many fans would just say stick with the old models. The old models which he marketed and sold on more premium tiers without giving the original artists credits or a cut.

Like that Fish Girl that gives you Endless Air
Note: Zolla is only credited for Asteria & Roxy as of v0.7.0
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StarsMan423

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Well Arc did a massive overhaul (Changing out over 1,682+ assets) in less than a week :coffee: Unless you go with a conspiracy theory he wasn't nearly as preoccupied as he claimed to be or he could get way more then 2 events per week if given the right motivation.

Koikatu models could take longer if you go with custom modding which some of the Original Artist clearly did, especially those that work on Monster Girls. Then an artist might scrutinize little aspects to get there creation to shine just the way they want. Some could even spend weeks agonizing over this process. A few might poll different ideas to get feedback from their fans.

CursedFlame91 is currently conducting A Character Comparison Poll on Arc's behalf. Though funny enough it doesn't seem like Arc ever did mention that to his patrons...
To be clear I meant just redesigning characters. Like for most of the models they just look like Arc just change the scales on the old models and didn't remake them scratch, which is (at least mostly) okay since it's a redesign. Chloe was the biggest change and for the biggest reason; making her complete different. I was just trying to say that Arc could totally fix the characters models that everyone dislikes in just a few hours, but adding them into the animations, then into the game would take much longer. I have no idea if Arc is slacking a bit in the work but I wasn't talking about that. But I am sorry if I came across that way.
 
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masterdragonson

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I have no idea if Arc is slacking a bit in the work but I wasn't talking about that. But I am sorry if I came across that way.
Duly noted :) Still given the amount of work he did in a relatively shot amount of time is going to leave some people wondering.

Like how much work went into the side college girls comes to mind.

Redesigning Koikatu model isn't that hard.
But whether it was easy or hard
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OtakuGamer11

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Yeah nah, the old cards are unavailable since the redesigns went live. But as far as I'm aware I didn't lose much because the cards from the pack that I was missing were pretty much untouched (Pixie, Kana, Ami, Hana).
If not I might've had to try and butter up an old patron to hand em over (I failed).
Honestly, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to share the old cards. They're no longer supported. It's not like it hurts anyone now, especially since they're no longer offered on the patreon.

Then I guess you're our last hope.
 
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Kanyeet

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Screenshot (1).png --Rollback on mouse after entering nexus cause overlap
-Pixie quest bugged, stuck on get some sleep at manor in love card
-Unable to progress on Chloe story as in weekday,weekend mornings it shows only go back option and on afternoon says she's taking care of alice (location unknown) checked in all manor options for the pair.
-Still would like hints to show on how to unlock cgs
 

Raf-Raf

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View attachment 827637 --Rollback on mouse after entering nexus cause overlap
-Pixie quest bugged, stuck on get some sleep at manor in love card
-Unable to progress on Chloe story as in weekday,weekend mornings it shows only go back option and on afternoon says she's taking care of alice (location unknown) checked in all manor options for the pair.
-Still would like hints to show on how to unlock cgs
Try checking her room? That triggered the quest for me = w=
 

kameohawk

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Sooo... from what I can see in the comments, this update has been a major turn-off. In other words, no one liked the visual updates and all the bugs.
I'd like to ask the dev to fix this as soon as possible, in order not to lose people playing it
I'd disagree the update was a major turn-off. People griped about the visuals but don't correlate people moaning about a change with a change being so bad it turns people away. People like to complain. That doesn't mean what they're complaining about is a deal breaker for them.

The graphics aren't great but changes are they will be refined going forward after feedback. The talk on here seems to be what was done was done by necessity so chances are bits may have been rushed. The problem now is there's only so much time in a day so people have two choices. They can continue to froth at the mouth over the graphics and not stop till they're "fixed" but that will mean there's less time spent on creating actual content. So the question is what do people want? Do you want new content or updated graphics for story you've probably already played through?
 

Raf-Raf

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I'd disagree the update was a major turn-off. People griped about the visuals but don't correlate people moaning about a change with a change being so bad it turns people away. People like to complain. That doesn't mean what they're complaining about is a deal breaker for them.

The graphics aren't great but changes are they will be refined going forward after feedback. The talk on here seems to be what was done was done by necessity so chances are bits may have been rushed. The problem now is there's only so much time in a day so people have two choices. They can continue to froth at the mouth over the graphics and not stop till they're "fixed" but that will mean there's less time spent on creating actual content. So the question is what do people want? Do you want new content or updated graphics for story you've probably already played through?
Yeah I think everybody knows that already bud'...that's why he's asking for feedback so it WILL be improved...
 

Porn_Jesus

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Sooo... from what I can see in the comments, this update has been a major turn-off. In other words, no one liked the visual updates and all the bugs.
Can you speak for yourself or is "no one" the long version for you? I like the changes and i'm not alone with that here or on discord. I may not like every single change but it's a joke to say everything went to shit with that update.

I'd like to ask the dev to fix this as soon as possible, in order not to lose people playing it
I assume Arc will start a poll or ask his most trusted people what they think and how to proceed from here. What i can guarantee is that there won't be two versions of the game (old style and new style) at the same time cuz that would end in a absurd amount of work.

Or he just goes on from here and part of the community splits and leaves. Who knows.
 

AlisaB

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For me it was mostly an upgrade. I dont like what he did to Gwen but thats about it. Morgana is actually quite hot now(which is a massive improvement in her case), Chloe, Lily, Veronica and few others look better as well.
 

kameohawk

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Yeah I think everybody knows that already bud'...that's why he's asking for feedback so it WILL be improved...
I understand that, I was simply replying to the previous post which was hammering home the idea of "NO ONE" likes the changes and if there's no change then the game is doomed to failure.
 
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Raf-Raf

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I understand that, I was simply replying to the previous post which was hammering home the idea of "NO ONE" likes the changes and if there's no change then the game is doomed to failure.
Not surprised there bud', the players before the update (us) were becoming boomers goin'
"I miss the good ol' days" but just like what some said in previous posts, he MUST change the models or else some devs will prolly kill this game so we pretty much have to DEAL WITH IT...

There WILL always be people like that going gung-ho about it...(Me when I saw Madison's Planetary Jugs)
After all, CHANGE ISN'T GOOD...(most of the time) but that's just me...
= w=
 
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