Loop 20, after Combat 11:
No change in breaks. It's kind of starting to look like I may have an easier time continuing to raise Release's HATE to getting a T3 MOR break than I'll ever have getting the others up into the 100M range. She's at 350M Fear, while I'm unable to get Testament into two-digit PLEA.
For Day 12 I'll again send out Metalhead and back her with 175EE. Moo is weak to EXPO so this should be a fairly effective combat round.
OK, I'm either missing something, or there's a bug, or something isn't displaying correctly. Here's the situation:
But Testament shouldn't be using her ability to help Release right now:
I'll post a save in case you need to test something CSdev . It should be "in2"--the first slot.
Well, next turn the number of turns only went down by 1 despite the message. So it may just be a display bug, because I do see how Testament was helping the previous combat turn when I had Moo Surrounded.
After Combat 12:
More progress from Release, who is now at 579M FEAR. I can get her to 1G at this rate, but I don't know how quickly I'll be able to send someone else out to convert her, or how rapidly she'll do the Fear move. Species reference states:
Moo is weak to HATE, so let's try Metalhead again.
After Combat 13: Release is up to 659M FEAR. Moo is weak to PLEA, so I send Lapdog (formerly Victory) out for a stroll.
Her cost is 34EE, so if I don't get a lot of extra from sending her I'll just send Final EXPOdia again.
After Combat 14: Release is almost there at 863M FEAR. If I can earn that T3 Break in the next few combats, based on my understanding of when she uses the move, it should pretty much fill up the same fight. I only need 400% PE to have it ready to break. I don't know if I'll have enough EE to be able to send my best Breeder to improve her HATE damage, and it doesn't really seem like I'll get enough on anyone else for any T3 breaks. But once I get those T3 breaks I can focus on Tempting the others to make the final battle easier and gain me extra EE (should be able to get +40/day) After next combat is the military base, which won't give me any bonus EE.
I don't think I can get Testament there, even though last combat was very PLEA heavy it only got her to 12.8M DISG.
Moo is weak to CON so this is either a Bloodlust battle or another Metalhead. Trying to conserve EE, I send out Metalhead.
After Combat 16: Success!
So, what I'd like to eventually do with Release is stack on another damage modifier. Within Breeders, there's only +victim HATE. I have 3 that fulfill that requirement:
I have 3 days before the Final Battle. If I Orgy/Tempt/Tempt every day, I get +40EE per day, That plus the 144 I still have doens't allow me afford Hatequeen's massive cost. I really should try to get an Undead that replaces her. But, I can easily afford Assplodey. I haven't introduced her yet, because my hope is that I'm eventually able to get some T4 CON breaks with her and bring her down to a reasonable but high cost in the 20s somewhere. She has a +self buff on CON damage, so she'll be my panic "I need an Orgy now" button. But, I haven't actually gotten those T4 CON breaks because I've been fighting Angels.
Anyway, let's try to build up that 400% PE for HATE! We'll need, obviously, Metalhead, since MOO is weak to EXPO.
In Combat 16:
I'm fortunate to find that the Ego Murder selfish tactic is set up so that it can't be immediately overlapped, unlike the similar Mating Dance from the Animalistic which they can use to make their comrades invincible by using the turn it would expire. This balances out somewhat the fact that they can do this move while surrounded, which makes it impossible to stop (unless you're not surrounding her).
After Combat 16:
Testament spams the move as often as she can, as I kind of expected her to do. So, all that's left to do to finish up this Loop is:
1) Total Break Release's MOR, getting that damage bonus to stack on the 200% she gets to all damage (Nice!)
2) Continue to Tempt Testament and Moo to bring their Final Battle requirements down and make them easier
3) Plan for Moo being on DIG weakness day 20. If I'm not able to get her PLEA high enough I think she'll escape instead of suiciding, but I'd like to have her if possible.
So, updates will be short from here because there's not much more to do. Testament and Moo take a PLEA of 281K in the final battle to convert. I'll go ahead and set Assplodey to the Breeder. After that I'll make Metalhead the Trainer so she won't Tantrum, and that'll be Day 17.
Well, shit--should have checked this, but Assplodey and Ghast can't be Breeders. Assplodey was converted through Negotiation so her Hostility isn't high enough, and Ghast was converted through no distortions at all so her Obedience isn't high enough. I do have Haterape that can give a +21% HATE bonus, though, and that'll be good enough.
Combat 17: I notice another small bug CSdev
It looks like the Forsaken can still use Ego Murder while being Captured. I would have thought based on the description of what's going on that they'd have to be Surrounded instead. Also when they do this there's no text indicating that they've used the move, but the move shows in effect on the next combat turn. Here's some game output:
Notice that Round 2 Ego Murder shows up but there's no indication it was used Round 1. Additionally, the # of turns is wrong: In turn 2 it shows it being active for 4 turns. But her HATE is only level 2 after the Turn 1 Capture. In my opinion, they shouldn't be using this move when Captured as it's a move that fights Thralls specifically.
It doesn't seem like it happens a later time when I have Release captured, so maybe it's something different that happens for Turn 1 of Combat?
But, I do get my Total Morality Break, as above. I'll also try to Tempt this fight. Edit: Not able to Tempt. But Day 18 I should be able to as Moo is weak to PLEA.
Send out Final EXPOdia.
Kind of skipping to the Final Battle here because there isn't much else that's interesting to talk about.
Final Battle: Buy up through Empathy, since Moo and Testament have Unbreakable Friendship. Send out Final EXPOdia since Moo is weak to EXPO, should enable me to get a small Orgy off of that to convert Release. Then maybe her Tempt will be enough to pull Testament up. Need to not attack Release's HATE or she will start using her special move, then I won't be able to control the fight. But as long as she stays below Level 2 HATE she shouldn't use it as it doesn't give her any benefit.
Eventually, the right sequence of moves gets me to a one-turn Orgy, converting Release. Next turn Extermination is finished, but I can Capture Testament, then Tempt her, which converts her after only a few turns. Then all that remains to see is if I can get Moo--- and yes!
Here's Release:
I could make maximal use of just her HATE multiplier , but I've kind of already got a Forsaken built for HATE orgies. I think it's more interesting to use her doing both HATE and INJU damage, which means she'll basically be a better Cataclysm that doesn't sap Motivation from everyone else. She'll need to cost a lot less, though: Her cost of 287EE is way too high to be usable damaging Forsaken. Cataclysm costs 51EE and her Deployment strength is 114%. Her bonuses, I think, multiply together, so hers are (1.226[Expertise])(1.425[Scarring Breeder])(1.75 [Devil])(1.5[Averted])(1.14[Deployment Strength]) = 5.23 or so.
So if I wanted an Angel just as strong, she'd have about the same Expertise, only 1.21 from Scarring Breeder, 3.0(Averted Angel) * 1.226 (assumed Expertise)
So she'd need deployment strength of 5.23/1.226 or roughly 117%, so roughly the same cost. That means 30% more Disgrace for her, but once she's there I can free or sacrifice my Devil Chosen.
So, if I'm feeling like that's where I want her, she's going to be renamed Wrath.
Testament gives a boost to Wrath and that's her only legit purpose, so she's now wrath's vibrator. Moo is just kind of worthless... so she's the new beefcow. Maybe she'll get lucky and Splendor will offer me something I want for her freedom.
And that's how Loop 20 goes with 2 Angels.
E: Actually Splendor offered me a pretty good deal for Releasing Haterape (don't increase difficulty next Loop), so now I'm thinking I'll just let Wrath train HATE and replace her on the roster.
No change in breaks. It's kind of starting to look like I may have an easier time continuing to raise Release's HATE to getting a T3 MOR break than I'll ever have getting the others up into the 100M range. She's at 350M Fear, while I'm unable to get Testament into two-digit PLEA.
For Day 12 I'll again send out Metalhead and back her with 175EE. Moo is weak to EXPO so this should be a fairly effective combat round.
OK, I'm either missing something, or there's a bug, or something isn't displaying correctly. Here's the situation:
But Testament shouldn't be using her ability to help Release right now:
I'll post a save in case you need to test something CSdev . It should be "in2"--the first slot.
Well, next turn the number of turns only went down by 1 despite the message. So it may just be a display bug, because I do see how Testament was helping the previous combat turn when I had Moo Surrounded.
After Combat 12:
More progress from Release, who is now at 579M FEAR. I can get her to 1G at this rate, but I don't know how quickly I'll be able to send someone else out to convert her, or how rapidly she'll do the Fear move. Species reference states:
So I think I can progress this really fast.
Moo is weak to HATE, so let's try Metalhead again.
After Combat 13: Release is up to 659M FEAR. Moo is weak to PLEA, so I send Lapdog (formerly Victory) out for a stroll.
Her cost is 34EE, so if I don't get a lot of extra from sending her I'll just send Final EXPOdia again.
After Combat 14: Release is almost there at 863M FEAR. If I can earn that T3 Break in the next few combats, based on my understanding of when she uses the move, it should pretty much fill up the same fight. I only need 400% PE to have it ready to break. I don't know if I'll have enough EE to be able to send my best Breeder to improve her HATE damage, and it doesn't really seem like I'll get enough on anyone else for any T3 breaks. But once I get those T3 breaks I can focus on Tempting the others to make the final battle easier and gain me extra EE (should be able to get +40/day) After next combat is the military base, which won't give me any bonus EE.
I don't think I can get Testament there, even though last combat was very PLEA heavy it only got her to 12.8M DISG.
Moo is weak to CON so this is either a Bloodlust battle or another Metalhead. Trying to conserve EE, I send out Metalhead.
After Combat 16: Success!
So, what I'd like to eventually do with Release is stack on another damage modifier. Within Breeders, there's only +victim HATE. I have 3 that fulfill that requirement:
I have 3 days before the Final Battle. If I Orgy/Tempt/Tempt every day, I get +40EE per day, That plus the 144 I still have doens't allow me afford Hatequeen's massive cost. I really should try to get an Undead that replaces her. But, I can easily afford Assplodey. I haven't introduced her yet, because my hope is that I'm eventually able to get some T4 CON breaks with her and bring her down to a reasonable but high cost in the 20s somewhere. She has a +self buff on CON damage, so she'll be my panic "I need an Orgy now" button. But, I haven't actually gotten those T4 CON breaks because I've been fighting Angels.
Anyway, let's try to build up that 400% PE for HATE! We'll need, obviously, Metalhead, since MOO is weak to EXPO.
In Combat 16:
I'm fortunate to find that the Ego Murder selfish tactic is set up so that it can't be immediately overlapped, unlike the similar Mating Dance from the Animalistic which they can use to make their comrades invincible by using the turn it would expire. This balances out somewhat the fact that they can do this move while surrounded, which makes it impossible to stop (unless you're not surrounding her).
After Combat 16:
Testament spams the move as often as she can, as I kind of expected her to do. So, all that's left to do to finish up this Loop is:
1) Total Break Release's MOR, getting that damage bonus to stack on the 200% she gets to all damage (Nice!)
2) Continue to Tempt Testament and Moo to bring their Final Battle requirements down and make them easier
3) Plan for Moo being on DIG weakness day 20. If I'm not able to get her PLEA high enough I think she'll escape instead of suiciding, but I'd like to have her if possible.
So, updates will be short from here because there's not much more to do. Testament and Moo take a PLEA of 281K in the final battle to convert. I'll go ahead and set Assplodey to the Breeder. After that I'll make Metalhead the Trainer so she won't Tantrum, and that'll be Day 17.
Well, shit--should have checked this, but Assplodey and Ghast can't be Breeders. Assplodey was converted through Negotiation so her Hostility isn't high enough, and Ghast was converted through no distortions at all so her Obedience isn't high enough. I do have Haterape that can give a +21% HATE bonus, though, and that'll be good enough.
Combat 17: I notice another small bug CSdev
It looks like the Forsaken can still use Ego Murder while being Captured. I would have thought based on the description of what's going on that they'd have to be Surrounded instead. Also when they do this there's no text indicating that they've used the move, but the move shows in effect on the next combat turn. Here's some game output:
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Round 1
Evacuation: 0/250 (0%) [=- ]
Extermination: 0/757 (0%) [ ]
The desperate battle continues...
[ANGEL] Release: Opening Level 0 vs. Defense Level 1
Haterape: Ready to capture target
Ego Murder: Cannot send new commands to Thralls for 5 turns
Release is fighting alone!
FEAR: 0 [Lv 0] x4(HATE)
DISG: 0 [Lv 0] x2(HATE)
PAIN: 0 [Lv 0] x2(HATE)
SHAM: 0 [Lv 0] x2(HATE)
HATE: 820 [Lv 1] x2(HATE) x1/2(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
PLEA: 80 [Lv 0] x2(HATE) x1/2(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
INJU: 60 [Lv 0] x2(HATE) x1/2(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
EXPO: 60 [Lv 0] x2(HATE) x1/2(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
Choose your action. Haterape can capture Release for 7 rounds.
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Release doesn't take notice of Haterape quickly enough for the latter's liking, and so Haterape decides to draw her attention with the screams of murdered civilians. Release turns her head, notices the slaughter, and roars with rage and charges forward.
FEAR [-----'''''] ( 0 + 592 = 592) nervous eyes
DISG [-'''''''''] ( 0 + 179 = 179) lips curled in distaste
PAIN [--''''''''] ( 0 + 273 = 273) wincing in pain
SHAM [--''''''''] ( 0 + 230 = 230) face downturned
HATE [~~~~~~~~~-] ( 820 + 9179 = 9999) strong hatred for the Demons
PLEA ['''''''' ] ( 80 = 80) not really turned on
INJU ['''''' ] ( 60 = 60) only superficial injuries
EXPO ['''''' ] ( 60 = 60) clothes slightly disheveled
HATE up! As Haterape continues to provoke Release, her teeth are clenched in rage. Her composure completely lost, she's too caught up in the moment to calm down.
"I recognize you. I can't believe you gave it all up to serve the Demon Lord."
"My name is Haterape, and I'm the one who will kill you! Don't underestimate the power of Master!"
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Round 2
Evacuation: 20/250 (8%) [#== ]
Extermination: 0/757 (0%) [ ]
The desperate battle continues...
[ANGEL] Release: Captured for 7 more turns
Haterape: Busy with Release
Ego Murder: Cannot send new commands to Thralls for 4 turns
Release is fighting alone!
FEAR: 592 [Lv 1] x16(HATE)
DISG: 179 [Lv 1] x4(HATE)
PAIN: 273 [Lv 1] x4(HATE)
SHAM: 230 [Lv 1] x4(HATE)
HATE: 9999 [Lv 2] x4(HATE) x1/4(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
PLEA: 80 [Lv 0] x4(HATE) x1/4(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
INJU: 60 [Lv 0] x4(HATE) x1/4(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
EXPO: 60 [Lv 0] x4(HATE) x1/4(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
Choose your action.
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While Haterape acts as a distraction, Release is suddenly grabbed from behind by a powerful humanoid Demon with a huge cock - the Demon hand-selected by Haterape for the task of impregnating Release. Before Release can escape, Haterape steps forward, wraps her fingers around the Demon's shaft and uses her other hand to pull Release's g-string aside...
Total Morality Break
Knowing full well what will happen to her if she's impregnated by the Demon Lord, Release can't wipe the terrified expression off her face as she feels the Demon's member start to push inside her. She can't even manage to put up the paper-thin facade of eager bloodlust. She realizes too late that her willingness to murder is what weakened her soul's defenses to the point that this is even possible.
Haterape forces the Chosen down onto the Demon's cock, and Release's violent struggling only impales her onto it more deeply. Haterape has the Demon fuck Release savagely, clawing at her chest and back while Haterape whispers taunting words into her ear.
FEAR [~~--------] ( 592 + 2001 = 2593) shaking with fear
DISG [----''''''] ( 179 + 268 = 447) lips curled in distaste
PAIN [-------'''] ( 273 + 457 = 730) wincing in pain
SHAM [------''''] ( 230 + 371 = 601) face downturned
HATE [=~~~~~~~~~] ( 9999 + 8810 = 18.8k) overpowering hatred for the world
PLEA ['''''''' ] ( 80 = 80) not really turned on
INJU ['''''' ] ( 60 = 60) only superficial injuries
EXPO ['''''' ] ( 60 = 60) clothes slightly disheveled
HATE up! Unable to contain her emotions anymore, Release gives in to her rage and starts trying to lash out. She just wants this all to be over.
"Hahahah, you hate this! But you can't stop me!"
"Graaah!"
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Round 3
Evacuation: 40/250 (16%) [###= ]
Extermination: 0/757 (0%) [ ]
The desperate battle continues...
[ANGEL] Release: Captured for 6 more turns
Haterape: Busy with Release
Ego Murder: Cannot send new commands to Thralls for 3 turns
Release is fighting alone!
FEAR: 2593 [Lv 2] x64(HATE)
DISG: 447 [Lv 1] x8(HATE)
PAIN: 730 [Lv 1] x8(HATE)
SHAM: 601 [Lv 1] x8(HATE)
HATE: 18.8k [Lv 3] x8(HATE) x1/8(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
PLEA: 80 [Lv 0] x8(HATE) x1/8(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
INJU: 60 [Lv 0] x8(HATE) x1/8(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
EXPO: 60 [Lv 0] x8(HATE) x1/8(highest Circ.) = x1 Total
Choose your action.It doesn't seem like it happens a later time when I have Release captured, so maybe it's something different that happens for Turn 1 of Combat?
But, I do get my Total Morality Break, as above. I'll also try to Tempt this fight. Edit: Not able to Tempt. But Day 18 I should be able to as Moo is weak to PLEA.
Send out Final EXPOdia.
Kind of skipping to the Final Battle here because there isn't much else that's interesting to talk about.
Final Battle: Buy up through Empathy, since Moo and Testament have Unbreakable Friendship. Send out Final EXPOdia since Moo is weak to EXPO, should enable me to get a small Orgy off of that to convert Release. Then maybe her Tempt will be enough to pull Testament up. Need to not attack Release's HATE or she will start using her special move, then I won't be able to control the fight. But as long as she stays below Level 2 HATE she shouldn't use it as it doesn't give her any benefit.
Eventually, the right sequence of moves gets me to a one-turn Orgy, converting Release. Next turn Extermination is finished, but I can Capture Testament, then Tempt her, which converts her after only a few turns. Then all that remains to see is if I can get Moo--- and yes!
So now the new ones need names, and their names should reflect what I want them to do.
Here's Release:
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Release
Real name: Goto Tsubasa
Stamina: 100.0%
Motivation: 100.0%
Expertise
HATE: 30.0k (x1.060 dmg) (x1.210 dmg from Haterape's impregnation)
PLEA: 20.0k (x1.000 dmg)
INJU: 30.0k (x1.060 dmg)
EXPO: 20.0k (x1.000 dmg)
Combat Style: Sadistic (100% HATE/INJU)
Attacks without mercy, enjoying the target's suffering. Weakens most targets significantly, making further attacks even easier.
Training Plan: None
Remains idle when at full Stamina
Trait: Angel Forsaken
Provides double bonus when Spared (under Retire menu)
Trait: Dissociative Identity (Unleashed Angel)
While consenting, training can only increase Disgrace. +200% damage
Trait: Personal Paradise
Fully restore Motivation every day and deal +10% damage (from Testament)
First Impregnation: Haterape (+21.0% HATE damage)
Hostility: 64% (Pretending to be hateful toward humanity)
Deviancy: 17% (Pretending to fetishize aberrant actions)
Obedience: 28% (Pretending to be eager to obey)
Disgrace: 18% (Still somewhat respected)So if I wanted an Angel just as strong, she'd have about the same Expertise, only 1.21 from Scarring Breeder, 3.0(Averted Angel) * 1.226 (assumed Expertise)
So she'd need deployment strength of 5.23/1.226 or roughly 117%, so roughly the same cost. That means 30% more Disgrace for her, but once she's there I can free or sacrifice my Devil Chosen.
So, if I'm feeling like that's where I want her, she's going to be renamed Wrath.
Testament gives a boost to Wrath and that's her only legit purpose, so she's now wrath's vibrator. Moo is just kind of worthless... so she's the new beefcow. Maybe she'll get lucky and Splendor will offer me something I want for her freedom.
And that's how Loop 20 goes with 2 Angels.
E: Actually Splendor offered me a pretty good deal for Releasing Haterape (don't increase difficulty next Loop), so now I'm thinking I'll just let Wrath train HATE and replace her on the roster.
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