WazaQQXOXO

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You miss that the license was made by Fenoxo and he left Savin in charge while he focused on solving and developing TiTS, and if am I not wrong he posted in the forum that he if needed could intervene if he detected that the game was going south (He needs cash though). Still, I get your point. I know that I mustn't under estimate, but after this long haul Savin has done nothing to improve the game but adding dead end characters and breaking what CoC was to begin with.
I'm no lawyer when it comes to licencing shebang, but I know for sure Fen won't do jackshit when it comes to COC2. Look at the kitsune drama. The barebone-state of WC. TOBS walls of text could be used to make a godamn fort. Fen is even giving on the management of COC2. Savin is the man responsible for the current state of COC2.

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King_Ogre

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I'm no lawyer when it comes to licencing shebang, but I know for sure Fen won't do jackshit when it comes to COC2. Look at the kitsune drama. The barebone-state of WC. TOBS walls of text could be used to make a godamn fort. Fen is even giving on the management of COC2. Savin is the man responsible for the current state of COC2.

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The moment the cash stops to flow, the moment Fenoxo cuts the A-OK to license the name CoC to Savin. Is a no brainer. Savin can claim is another company tha makes CoC 2. But Fenoxo has it listed as his on his own page.

I mean corruption aside, which I agree. The companions and even Cait (since I see the hate around on her so much), I'm pretty sure I'm playing a completely different game. I never felt the "third wheel" I mean, you can feel this way if you want all the characters to belong to you and only you from the beginning.
Then, you are playing something else bubs. To use the CoC license you need to make it related to the original title. If not, you need to find another title as an original or plainly correct that twisted twig. Otherwise many veterans are going to piss on you and your product.

I believe CoC2 has huge potential, and like any game that is still in production gets judged as if everything is already released and finished, instead of waiting or even ignoring what they don't like. If I don't like some companions I ignore them or just never recruit them in the first place if that's possible.
Same as here, CoC has potential, but bad crew manning the ship to the edge of the world. Because they can't hink straight. Take the times from important update from another. They are taking too long to really improve the game and lore and instead we have junk mini-patches just adding nonsensical smut to each NPC or adding junk NPC's/mobs just for the sake of smut alone (some are walls of text and others are clearly nonsense).
 
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Avakao

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Then, you are playing something else bubs. To use the CoC license you need to make it related to the original title. If not, you need to find another title as an original or plainly correct that twisted twig. Otherwise many veterans are going to piss on you and your product.


Same as here, CoC has potential, but bad crew manning the ship to the edge of the world. Because they can't hink straight. Take the times from important update from another. They are taking too long to really improve the game and lore and instead we have junk mini-patches just adding nonsensical smut to each NPC or adding junk NPC's/mobs just for the sake of smut alone (some are walls of text and others are clearly nonsense).

I'm kinda new to this game, so I can't compare this to the first CoC since I never played that one. I just said my thoughts based on my experiences with CoC2. ^^

And I fully agree, is even something I've said in my review, I mean, the game came out in 2018 if I'm not mistaken, and 3 years and only act 1 is done, I was really surprised by that. And So, so many unnecessary side scenes with so many random NPCs instead of focusing on the main story and companions' content.
 
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qorl55

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First time posting in this thread. Yet after reading the whole thread it seems that the 4chan general and here have reached the same conclusions.
-Savin is uncapable to make a decent game
-Tobs is still an sperg crusading against the player (You)
-Ryn will never be dedicked because is Savin's OC (and he will never leave the MC get his "daughter")
-CoC2 is still a shitshow
-Wsan is the only redeeming point
-The Mod is 100x better than the vanilla one.
-The foxes started as a nice jewel only to be sperged out by the same author (Tobs)

Is almost painful know that this game that had too much potential is going to waste thanks to 1 of the devs (Savin) and the sperg in chief (Tobs).
It almost makes me to no write off my small story about teaching edgy kirito being a real warrior and fiancee for your daughter.:HideThePain:
The mod seems to do...very very little? Or am I mistaken?
 

qorl55

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Also, I think there is a difference between polyamory and open ralationship.
Latter is something that the game hinges on in a lot of cases with people like Cait, Brint, Quin and many others. You get to fuck whoever you want, they get to fuck whoever you want.

Polyamory is engament/love between multiply people. Poly relationships hinges on trust that you and your partners are going to be truthful to everyone. So, unlike in open relationship where you can fuck anyone without asking your partner/s, in poly you will have to ask all of your loved ones if it is OK for you to fuck someone else.
This is part of why I liked Fisianna content in TiTS so much, there was at least a short conversation about the nature of their relationship and Steele can establish herself as poly and ask if Fisianna's okay with that
 

Tombombastic

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So I've been replaying the game recently and I'm doing the quest to build a temple to Malach in Hawkthorne, during the convo with Carmen (horribly underused character) she says the she needs to talk to Severine posthaste... does anyone know who this Severine person is? And why did they name drop her there without any context?
I think Severine is a gargoyle, like Gianna, that lives at Carmen's castle.
 

A.HK

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I think Severine is a gargoyle, like Gianna, that lives at Carmen's castle.
It's like that bartender (I think) Rumi, that only appears during the Wayfort date with Senja.
Did you know that we even have a bar? I certainly didn't.
 

qorl55

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I mean corruption aside, which I agree. The companions and even Cait (since I see the hate around on her so much), I'm pretty sure I'm playing a completely different game. I never felt the "third wheel" I mean, you can feel this way if you want all the characters to belong to you and only you from the beginning.

But all games I've ever played, porn or not, most characters will only get or should get attached romantically by the end of it or near the end, at least is how I expect it. Not right on Act 1, which is all we have so far. Act 1.

That's why I even run away from characters that get attached too fast like Brienne, etc. Because I don't have an interest in "marriage" or getting attached to have the feeling of cheating on my partner. I mean, ppl want their companions, LIs to be faithful and only do things they want. But I doubt, really doubt the same players will act faithful and not go around fucking stuff and even having their "Lover" just there watching it happen.

Honestly, so far I'm loving this game. I love Cait and Kas, my favorite characters in the game until now, I also love most of the companions, I may not like many fetishes, and scenes but I'm happy that I can not watch them because I know they are there for other players that may like it. Just because I dislike something doesn't mean someone else won't like it.
There are valid criticisms in this thread, but yeah I mostly like Cait too(although I wish they'd spare me the descriptions of her fucking or standing there with cum leaking out of this or that orifice, I don't like those bits) and I didn't feel my MC was a third wheel either at least the vast majority of the time. I do value loyalty in characters, but then again the MC sleeps with so many people, from their perspective it'd unfair to forbid others from doing the same. That said many characters don't seem too interested in doing that which I'm pleased with regardless.
I agree with you about romantic attachment only happening by the end, but this isn't a "serious" game like Dragon Age Origins, and there's so many characters, and it's nowhere near finished, so I can either skip nice romantic content or compartmentalise the MC-NPC relationship and pretend they're self-contained little stories.
And I totally get what you said about not wanting to feel like you're cheating on a partner. But I'm still very happy with Brienne's attachment and the Atani and centaur princess marriage. In most other games I'd focus on one character or avoid immediate commitment, but also I don't want to go through this game(or TiTS or CoC1) 5 times romancing a different LI every time to see most of the content, it'd take too long. So for me this "unfaithfulness" is a time-saving measure. But it'd make me feel better if we got convos w/ major LIs asking for permission or potentially discussing polyamory or sth.
 
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I just want more low confidence Ryn to be completly honest. Especially if you lack dick since I think there is a lot of potential in creating a delightfully fucked up relationship in which your champion uses Ryn mostly as a way to become a Sire, therefore a ruler to Elves. You seeing Ryn more like a tool, a cherished one, but still a tool.
 

qorl55

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I just want more low confidence Ryn to be completly honest. Especially if you lack dick since I think there is a lot of potential in creating a delightfully fucked up relationship in which your champion uses Ryn mostly as a way to become a Sire, therefore a ruler to Elves. You seeing Ryn more like a tool, a cherished one, but still a tool.
Well that's not very nice to poor sweet Ryn
 

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I just want more low confidence Ryn to be completly honest. Especially if you lack dick since I think there is a lot of potential in creating a delightfully fucked up relationship in which your champion uses Ryn mostly as a way to become a Sire, therefore a ruler to Elves. You seeing Ryn more like a tool, a cherished one, but still a tool.
What the fuck is wrong with you, man. That's evil, and corrupt. Why would you ever want that in this game.
 
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