Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Kaftein]

Turn on easy mode, cheat whatever you want, I don't see the point of pride in a porn game since the combt is obviously not a priority in its design (rightfully so).

Largely because using a save editor is a pain in the ass. We're here to beat our meat, as you say, so it's annoying that we can't just grind our way to oneshotting everyone.

 

[BlacJak]

At the end of the day it's a porn game. 99.9999 percent of people who play this are not playing for a half-baked turn based combat system.

Turn on easy mode, cheat whatever you want, I don't see the point of pride in a porn game since the combt is obviously not a priority in its design (rightfully so).

That's something I never understood in context to any game like this, whether it be TiTS, COCI/II, Tales of Androgyny, etc. If most of the people playing it are just there for the porn, why even make a "game" out of it? I feel like you would be better off just making a Choose Your Own Adventure story or something else and disregard making any sort of "game".

 

[actualrealname]

That's something I never understood in context to any game like this, whether it be TiTS, COCI/II, Tales of Androgyny, etc. If most of the people playing it are just there for the porn, why even make a "game" out of it? I feel like you would be better off just making a Choose Your Own Adventure story or something else and disregard making any sort of "game".

You're pretty right, like 90% of porn games would be much better off just being a VN instead of trying to force in other systems too. There's a couple that are clearly putting in the effort to be alright games as well, but even then it's best to just include a skip button.

Generally speaking gameplay just feels like a way to pad out playtime, with very little thought put into making it fun or worth caring about.

 

[throwaway333woo]

You're pretty right, like 90% of porn games would be much better off just being a VN instead of trying to force in other systems too. There's a couple that are clearly putting in the effort to be alright games as well, but even then it's best to just include a skip button.

Generally speaking gameplay just feels like a way to pad out playtime, with very little thought put into making it fun or worth caring about.

I can see the appeal of combat. The first times I'd win a fight and get to the scene it was sorta hot in a way, lie a prize. Problem is when you try to get to, say, the dryads introduced in the last patch, then you'll have to tell the elf troupe to fuck off 10 times, tell the horse dicked elf boy to fuck off another dozen, then tell the bees that you don't want to be sodomized couple more, clear out your inventory from trash your MC randomly picks up AND on top of that exterminate half the continents population of wolves. God forbid you forget to save when you're done. The randomness and sheer volume of it all makes it so at some point you're just clicking through all the walls of text just to get to the part that isn't repetitive.

 

[menatv]

If you go to the menu now, it would seem there are other options now. You got "Normal" which I assume is standard difficulty. And you have Easy (which makes things, well, easier). "Story" mode looks like the easiest one. You do 60% more damage and opponents give you 60% less damage in fights using the Story mode.

So if you can't get past fights in Normal difficulty, try the Story settting. Though I still find a way to lose in that mode occasionally.

 

[balitz Method]

That's something I never understood in context to any game like this, whether it be TiTS, COCI/II, Tales of Androgyny, etc. If most of the people playing it are just there for the porn, why even make a "game" out of it? I feel like you would be better off just making a Choose Your Own Adventure story or something else and disregard making any sort of "game".

Some people definitely feel this way, that the game just gets in the way, but I like them -because- they try to be games. Even at the most basic level there's so much character customization that I'd probably play them even if the amount of sex was turned way way down. Being able to play a somewhat fleshed out RPG text game as like...a trap/femboy bunny with 3 penises or a hermaphrodite harpy with fuckable nipples is a level of fun novelty all on its own.

And the format of it is building off an idea that works well: monsters try to rape your character, beat them and you can turn the tables + some dating sim elements. I guess the divide hits when it comes to how hard it should try to be a game, whether it should really require you to think about loadouts &c and whether that gets in the way of presenting the sex parts.

 

[S0lid_Sn4ke]

I wanted to ask about jyrranaz about the choices what would be better the ones with sex involved or to show mercy? anyone know what implications could be in the future towards the quest of land of honey? :V
PD:I chose mercy for now to see how it plays in later updates

 

[actualrealname]

I can see the appeal of combat. The first times I'd win a fight and get to the scene it was sorta hot in a way, lie a prize. Problem is when you try to get to, say, the dryads introduced in the last patch, then you'll have to tell the elf troupe to fuck off 10 times, tell the horse dicked elf boy to fuck off another dozen, then tell the bees that you don't want to be sodomized couple more, clear out your inventory from trash your MC randomly picks up AND on top of that exterminate half the continents population of wolves. God forbid you forget to save when you're done. The randomness and sheer volume of it all makes it so at some point you're just clicking through all the walls of text just to get to the part that isn't repetitive.

Yeah there's nothing inherently wrong with having combat as a feature, it's just that most implement it really poorly and it ends up taking away from the actual content. Literally anything but a poorly implemented turn based system with a frustrating random encounter system ripped from a JRPG would be better.

CYOA style battles in a VN like the other dude said would work fine, even your generic NWN module combat works better most of the time. It's hard to think of a system worse than what most games use, or the random frustrating minigames that get chucked in others.

But to be honest Cait never seemed interesting to me, with the only interesting thing about her being the Cat Call story line that isn't even complete yet and will probably take years

I think that's a pretty safe take, Cait is pretty dull as a character. She's got like two traits, and one of those gets ignored in every other loss scene anyway.

 

[WhiteCafination]

I think that's a pretty safe take, Cait is pretty dull as a character. She's got like two traits, and one of those gets ignored in every other loss scene anyway.

Yeah my take is definitely on the safer side, to be frank it`s because i genuinely want Cait to be an interesting character and i feel like if i hop aboard the Cait Hate Train it`ll be harder to like her in the future if she does get fixed, maybe give her an angst upgrade in the beginning of the game that gradually goes away, or she hides her angst and grieving because she doesnt want to make her companions worried, it would also semi-explain why she doesnt want your custard launcher in her chocolate starfish, because shes being irrational and making shitty decisions. Because as it is Cait suddenly going from brooding to sluttly and shit like nothing ever happend (and only becoming angry or something in chats relating to Purple Hair) in the span of like a week is unrealistic. Not to mention it could explore alot of themes relating to family and make her character actually interesting

 

[balitz Method]

Cait's not really supposed to be 'interesting' and I put that in quotes to say she's a grounded and mundane character. In a game like this where a bunch of amateur writers are cramming their OC (do not steal) waifus into it the tendency is to make them so super interesting and awesome with these overwrought tragic backstories and 'special' qualities to make them stand out. When you meet your 4th or 5th deposed princess, though, it has the opposite effect. When every character you meet is written to be exceedingly special it's actually the more normal characters who end up standing out.

And there's a little something going on with her. In most games it'd be a character like her sister who ends up as your first companion, someone virginal (in both the literal sense and just to say they're without baggage) and scrappy. Instead you get Cait: the sister who didn't particularly want to go on the adventure, isn't primed and waiting to be swept off her feet, and canonically is just a dabbler at magic with no particular outstanding talents. In most every sense she's the opposite of what you expect from her character type and that alone makes her a little unique without hitting that special snowflake OC trend.

 

[MomijiH]

I'm alright with doing double sub scenes with Cait where we both service Brint or someone else, but I don't have much interest in her on her own, yeah.

I did find it really funny, though, that she immediately turns around on the demon catgirl in Wayfort and has threesome scenes with her despite hating her at the beginning of the conversation.

 

[WhiteCafination]

Cait's not really supposed to be 'interesting' and I put that in quotes to say she's a grounded and mundane character. In a game like this where a bunch of amateur writers are cramming their OC (do not steal) waifus into it the tendency is to make them so super interesting and awesome with these overwrought tragic backstories and 'special' qualities to make them stand out. When you meet your 4th or 5th deposed princess, though, it has the opposite effect. When every character you meet is written to be exceedingly special it's actually the more normal characters who end up standing out.

I completely agree with you on some points my friend, however i'd say that the fact that both her background and tutorial sequence set up quite an interesting story involving her relationship with the cult. When i thought about making the character sound more interesting i was thinking of making her have more negative emotions outside of the Cat Call quests relating to Purple Hair, however that might also take alot of consideration to make because if its abused it'll probably seem really bad writing just to drive a plot point home (i realize i might be misintepreting what you said, sorry if that's the case, also the fact that im talking about a character that isnt even complete yet and so we cant really say how she'll be onwards.)

 

[WhiteCafination]

Writing new reply because im a dumbass

I'm alright with doing double sub scenes with Cait where we both service Brint or someone else, but I don't have much interest in her on her own, yeah.

For sure, sex scenes arent really the problem because at that point they're probably not gonna shove in an important plot point whilst your MC watches a party member get fucked in the ass or something.

I did find it really funny, though, that she immediately turns around on the demon catgirl in Wayfort and has threesome scenes with her despite hating her at the beginning of the conversation.

Holy fuck why is that so funny? (My sense of humour is that of a 5 yr old) One thing i do have to give props for is the humour, i really enjoy the humour in these works its really great.

 

[actualrealname]

Yeah my take is definitely on the safer side, to be frank it`s because i genuinely want Cait to be an interesting character and i feel like if i hop aboard the Cait Hate Train it`ll be harder to like her in the future if she does get fixed, maybe give her an angst upgrade in the beginning of the game that gradually goes away, or she hides her angst and grieving because she doesnt want to make her companions worried, it would also semi-explain why she doesnt want your custard launcher in her chocolate starfish, because shes being irrational and making shitty decisions. Because as it is Cait suddenly going from brooding to sluttly and shit like nothing ever happend (and only becoming angry or something in chats relating to Purple Hair) in the span of like a week is unrealistic. Not to mention it could explore alot of themes relating to family and make her character actually interesting

Yeah I don't hate her, the character definitely has the potential to do more with them, she's just barely a character at all currently. She's a walking excuse for sex scenes (which would be fine if they just sat in camp all the time). Having her gradually change her opinion on the world and her faith as she travels and sees what the demons are doing or clearly have issues with her sister being missing and coping with that would be a great way to add some more depth to her without needing to radically change the character.

When you meet your 4th or 5th deposed princess, though, it has the opposite effect. When every character you meet is written to be exceedingly special it's actually the more normal characters who end up standing out.

I agree here, though I think you can do mundane and still remember to include a proper personality. Doesn't need to be flashy and super interesting, lots of the best characters in fiction have just been standard, "normal" people.
I figure it'll change more as her personal quest goes on, but it's been ages now and her only real consistent personality trait is having a lot of sex. Pretty much anything else is either not really present or just gets dropped whenever convenient.

 

[JTakiyaa]

Can anyone tell me which update they put in the dog girl in a cave? It came as a surprise to me. Can't seem to find it on fenoxo forum.

 

[Kroenen12]

Can anyone tell me which update they put in the dog girl in a cave? It came as a surprise to me. Can't seem to find it on fenoxo forum.

 

[S0lid_Sn4ke]

so this one was interesting i wanted to know what happened when i eat the knotted pepper having a already mutated the junk into a minotaur (And actually forgot that i had the double knotted one XD since there isnt much material involving the double dick about it i kinda forgot) and end result is that i that now the first cock has a knotted tag on it but the second one not.
I laugh my ass off what kind of failed experiment i am creating i thought to myself i seriously dont know how to make them both knotted now since only 1 has the tag XD

 

[Archaon11111]

so this one was interesting i wanted to know what happened when i eat the knotted pepper having a already mutated the junk into a minotaur (And actually forgot that i had the double knotted one XD since there isnt much material involving the double dick about it i kinda forgot) and end result is that i that now the first cock has a knotted tag on it but the second one not.
I laugh my ass off what kind of failed experiment i am creating i thought to myself i seriously dont know how to make them both knotted now since only 1 has the tag XD

I think lady Evergreen can make both dicks knotted mid sex and when she's sitting on your face also make your tongue longer. I don't know i they fixed it or not but I remember when transforming from lupine to minatour the dicks changed but were still knotted.

 

[S0lid_Sn4ke]

I think lady Evergreen can make both dicks knotted mid sex and when she's sitting on your face also make your tongue longer. I don't know i they fixed it or not but I remember when transforming from lupine to minatour the dicks changed but were still knotted.

When i meade the mino wyne+turgid mushroom the knotted tag was overwritten and i had to make it knotted again now
PD: I dont know how to trigger the lady's armament scene it seems that now kinu for default choose naginata without you being involved which is bull XD

 

[MangaKing]

0.3.16 Patch Notes:

• You can now finish purifying the Hornet Hive! Talk to Liaden at the honey pool after defeating the corrupted Queen and the Honey Goo, and she’ll walk you through it. (by SomeKindofWizard)
• Alternatively, you can be a dick about it and mess the whole thing up for everybody.
  • n.b. due to a miscommunication on the writing team, if you go the Corrupt route for finishing the hive, we’ve temporarily disabled Queen Nyzerrah’s interactions until we repair some conflicts in the writing. Whoops! Should be fixed in the next couple patches…
• After purifying the hive, you can (briefly) meet Liaden outside the Frost Hound and finally walk her over to meet Brother Sanders like she came here to in the first place.
• Berwyn got a small expansion: sleep with, companion talks, missionary sex, and a new dream. (By HugsAlright)
• New Enemy Encounter: Selkies can now be encountered in the Glacial Rift! (By TheObserver)
• New Dream: Rainbow Cait (by Alypia, with guest art by bk)
• New Busts: Dryads
• Sex Toys are now key items, rather than inventory items.
  

To go along with all of this, Azyrran’s companion content has been finished and should be making her appearance soon!

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