Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Daddums]

Given everything that's been said on this thread, yeah, he sounds like the perfect guy to be my wife's boyfriend.

Pfft, he wishes.

 

[ZaidMesa]

Thats too low price IMO. I, without any grind, already have..lemme check my android device...fuck, why are you loading for so long, you stupid game?? Shadows over a raiding legend have lower startup time!!!! My tablet have 4 gigs of ram and cpu, that makes my old PC with pentium 4 blush, you little.... okay 187720 money. I could buy everyone in frost marches, even earth, even sky, even Allah and his prophet Muhammad Kashyre herself and STILL have fuckton of money for a life full of debauchery.

I was thinking of changing the price to 1000 for the first 10 stat points, 2000 for the next 10, and then 4000 etc. And also raising the max level to 20 because that is the level Kasyrra and Aileh are.

 

[JTakiyaa]

To add to the list.

The devs are adamant that there is no rape or ntr in the game but then you have shit like.

• Marefolk shaman rapes your companion while you are forced to watch and feel it, written by tobs
• Demontaur brutally rapes Cait while you are forced to watch, written by tobs
• The hornets rape and egg Cait while you are forced to watch, written by tobs
• The hobgoblins brutalize and rape Brint and Brienne despite wsan stating that Brienne should not be involved with any dicked npc and even denying Savin from writing a scene with Arona, written by tobs

There are also cases where savin and bubble do this but tobs is the most egregious case by far. And as much as it hurts so say bubble at least has the decency to give you the option to not watch it happen while tobs makes a point of the enemy forcing you to look at it.


He has zero sense of game balance to the point of thinking that writing a single encounter that is immune to the current meta damage type is good enemy design. He also openly mocks people who complain that disarm or silence completely shut down their builds and and makes attempts at comedy with shit like "Oh no! My monoculture is failing! Who could've foreseen this?"

Then people were complaining about Whisper one shotting them before they were able to get a turn in and his response was "Get a turn in dumbass" and when it was revealed that crits did way more damage than they should and that Whisper was indeed OP, he didn't even bother to apologize to the people he made fun of.

There was a hilarious moment on discord where balak made a chonky post detailing all the things wrong with Kiyoko and how she was way too strong with too few weaknesses and all tobs had to say was "well I don't doubt she is strong, even jax says so". Another time balak asked savin why he made his comps so weak in the stat department and, I am 99% sure this was a jab at tobs, he said that "doesn't make his characters OP just to feel special". Also Kiyoko's weapon scales off of willpower so whether she gets silenced or disarmed her damage output is unaffected. But yes, Tobs, people should just stop complaining about unfun game mechanics and pick up your precious companion who covers every single niche.


He also loves to speak directly to the player. Not the character, but the person playing the game. His content is overflowing with 'what did you expect', 'you asked for this' and other stuff denying any responsibility for what is currently happening and pinning it all on the player because they skimmed his great walls of text or missed some overly cryptic bullshit.


Don't even get me started on the kinu content. That whole thing is a single straight line from start to finish and it goes like this.
Champ is bad parent who abandoned their kid and wife for 10 years and champ accepts that by apologizing for it -> Kinu gets engaged someone and you learn about it from anyone who isn't your family because you're a gaijin and champ is super angry about it -> family home gets raided and burned and Kinu saves the day, champ is super angry about not being involved -> it happens again and champ is super angry about not being involved -> to be continued and champ is super angry about not being involved

So it's princess maker but tobs really hated the fact that in those games you could choose how to deal with the psychos after your daughter with the options including doing it yourself. But the problem is that in princess maker the princess can FAIL when you decide to toss her to the wolves and tell her to fend for herself. Here that is not the case and Kinu's success is guaranteed because Champ's kids can't come to any permanent harm. The only emotional impact comes from tobs intentionally choosing to remove Champ from the content and not anything that actually happens in the story. Kinu will survive, everyone will survive, Taoth will be dealt with by yout daughter who, despite the fact that your kids get nothing from you, got your amazing smarts and champ will be go from angry to happy that their daughter killed a god.

On the forums he justified his decision to make Kinu deal with it herself by saying that he is playing a DnD game as a princess who got sent far away to learn on her own and is super grateful about it. Can't make this shit up.

EDIT~
How could I forget that he also wrote in her tailfuck scene that Cait had sex with clients back at the temple before she left. You know, she left the temple with her dad and sister. On her eighteenth birthday, when she stopped being a minor. Some guy raised that on the forums and the people there sounded like they defended that shit. Yet another thing you can't make up. Tobs is such a stand up guy and model human being.

Goddamn looking at this long detailed post and recognizing how most of the shit content I disliked was by him. I'm not even surprised if Tobs power fantasy being this much in game since he looked like he cucked Savin for the game ownership lol. Get cucked by the chinaman Savin, I know that turns you on. See how he brutally rapes your project in front of your eyes while you wank your less than 20 inch peneanusweanus to a crisp sheet of patreon bucks while the majority of your discord hugbox says how they love Tobs.

 

[Quintilus]

And also raising the max level to 20 because that is the level Kasyrra and Aileh are.

Stat level or character level?

 

[j_ericson]

.....please let this be some high-tier satire that I'm too stupid to comprehend. He better be the DM of that DnD game since the only way I'm even buying the fact that he's playing a princess that can do everything on her own is that it's either an NPC, DM PC or this princess is a level 30 halfling rogue who's also multiclassed into Fighter for Extra Attack and Action Surge, as well as having the benefit of loaded dice and has the Boon of the Death Bringer for extra edge.

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[destroyerofassholes]

Immediately the first response to him is "Your writing is phenomenal and I absolutely adore the Kitsune".

Big lul.

 

[arls120]

A question tobs that thinks this game a fantasy porn story or a drama novel with various moral, spiritual and religious complexes? I understand that some may like him and I don't know what kind of parents raised him or that he is even a very good writer to mess with that topic.

I read a comment that said

First of all, your writing is phenomenal and the Kitsune content is my absolute favorite part of the game, obviously. As an aspiring author, you definitely have my admiration. I can't wait to see more content in the future.

I can't wait for the day when we can see Kinu slow down and stomp on that slimy bastard's ever loving shit. As much as I want to help her, I know it's better to let her fight hers and hers and be there only if she wants me to be there. I will not be here forever, but I will do my best to support her if she wishes; What good dad wouldn't?

................... which is what they smoke when they comment on that forum because if that boy thought he did what tobs wrote and thinks to do. I guess that's our mistake, we must smoke a lot of drugs to understand Tobs.

 

[Quintilus]

Immediately the first response to him is "Your writing is phenomenal and I absolutely adore the Kitsune".

Big lul.

Some people just wants to see world burn.
And if it isnt burn, they set it on fire themselves.

 

[NODOGAN]

Wow i'm gone a few days and the dead horse implodes into a zombie we can keep beating up apparently!

Just wanted to say i agree with all of you, i think the mod with the permanent stat increase is an amazing mechanic that FINALLY acknowledges that in a game players goes first, history goes second AND FINALLY:

Inari Kinu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hime Kinu (If only because she doesn't marries the self-insert Kirito wannabe that is...what was his name again? whatever, samurai weeb kitsune you all know who i'm talking about!) she may hate Kiyoko but fuck it, she loves us as dad, isn't soiling our bloodline marrying to a walking-talking-cringe factory and if Kiyoko feels bad i'm more than happy to fuck her into making a new kid so she forgets about it.

 

[Kroenen12]

Anyone got a save where you can visit kasyrra area via the waystones? (the portal above foothills waystone)

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[Daken9]

• The hobgoblins brutalize and rape Brint and Brienne despite wsan stating that Brienne should not be involved with any dicked npc and even denying Savin from writing a scene with Arona, written by tobs

Checked the scene for morbid curiosity and Jesus Christ, dude needs to get himself checked out. It's some straight up unenjoyable Crow shit, holding you down while raping your wife kinda shit.

Like, fucking A, quite one thing to dislike a fictional character because they're more popular than any of yours, quite another to to go out of your way to 'punish' the character and the player for it. And from how that scene is written, and from what we know of the guy, that's what is.

Again, Jesus Christ. Luckily i've yet to play the latest update, so i can wash that shit out of my eyes with some wholesome cow family.

(At this point i'd say cow family >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolf family, but everyone knows that so i'll say cow family >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fox hillbillies)

 

[ZaidMesa]

Stat level or character level?

Character level. The formula for the max stat points is (2 + 3*level) for each stat. So at level 10 each stat has a max of 32 and at level 20 each stat would have a max of 62.

 

[gillriss]

New mod version
4.18 is used as the base version

No more Hashat X Ryn while drinking with Hashat.
Added special drinks that give a permanent +1 to an Atrribute. Can be bought from Garth for 1000 EC each. You can raise each stat to the game's maximum for your level.
Changed the max level to 10 for the PC.
Added a scene where you can fuck Quin's butt.
//New since last patch
It is now possible to have Sanders perform your wedding with Atani.
Added repeatable Kas scenes in the dream palace.
-When you first meet her in the tutorial
-Her Halloween event
-Elf Kas during the ball

Yes the saves are compatible with the normal game. If you start to prepare Atani's wedding finish it before transferring your save to the normal game.
If level 7 or 9 come out and you have already reached the level. Switch classes to get the new perks.
Mega

is there a list of things this mod has added from the beginning?

 

[enumate]

Tobs is probably the most blatant example of favoritism I've seen in a good while. The guy made his weeb race and just threw shit at the wall to see what sticks while Savin was too afraid of losing him to tell him to stop ruining his wallpaper.

The kitsune got invaded, but they won because the godswar happened the same day and the invaders had their supply lines cut.
The war raged on and tore the world asunder, but they were fine because they don't have souls and lived on an island (disregard them having their asses handed to them by the belharans who came by sea).
They don't have souls, but it's fine because they have a really big one that they tap into so they don't have any of the emotional flaws that demons do.
They have to feed off of people's souls, but it's fine because rape is A-OK.
They have magitech, but it's fine because it's plant based.
Their magic and technology is centuries ahead of the entire world and even the greatest mages of the greatest kingdom to have ever existed that also kicked their ass without issue.
They have portable waygates that they can plop down anywhere they wish, effectively eradicating the need for supply lines and giving them the ability to wage global war from the comfort of their own territory. Also they are password protected so only they can use it, because having any sort of weakness is so unkitsune like.
They have the ability and mentality to conquer the whole world, but it's fine because they can't take anything without giving back something of equal value (disregard every single fucking time they do that, like with miko stealing from evergreen or the old country annexing nekomata land)

The guy should really consider taking his head out of his ass and getting a breath of fresh air every once in a while.

He also once criticized Berry because of the way people depicted him when they made fanart of him, while the fanart of Kiyoko was always in setting and in character for her. The folks on discord had the sense to debate him on that atleast. I'm not sure on this but I think it was him who wrote the quin/berry threesome where Berry admits he loves anal. Great integrity right there going behind the back of the guy struggling with his mental health. He also openly trashes how Hugs wrote that notChina as a land of pacifists and plans to completely rewrite his beloved homeland instead of possibly going deeper and justifying it as some form of mystic serenity that emanates from the land that would explain why no one has conquered it yet. But no, Tobs, please do as you wish and completely rewrite shit you don't like. The kitsune ARE justified in everything they are and do and having another special kingdom would totally ruin THE WHOLE OF SAVARRA!

To continue this rant the guy is also sleazy af.
He said that there would be two ways of dealing with the kitsune in the Frostwoods. If you took the amulet it would be friendly, and if not you would be able to side with Taoth. But poor Tobs foresaw his own impartialness and knew that he could not write something that would hurt his poor darlings so he generously offered anyone else who wanted to write the side of purely evil, irredeemable child murderers. Such was his regard for others' skill that he knew there would be someone who could match him on pace and quality of work that the two storylines could progress evenly.
If you believe any of that shit go and slap yourself silly.
Tobs intentionally does shit that he knows won't work and then pretends it was an honest mistake while his option remains the only instance in the game. He wrote the bento boxes that give well fed and the willpower boon and when players asked for that for other stats he just went "Oh, well. That was a mistake and we learned from it so no one else do that thing." Then there's the revive belt which he justifies by the strength of the other marriage items like the mare's ring and everblossom hood and hides the fact that his item was the reason for the other two being so powerful.

Somehow Savin still trusts him enough to not proff read his content to the point that he wasn't even aware of what the belt did until A FEW FUCKING MONTHS AGO. Which is also when he learned that Tobs wrote wand weapons, something Savin prohibitted, because Skow wrote the metal wand, which Savin also didn't know about. And so was born the item that made a complete farse of the Kasyrra fight in the winter city. He also justifies the kitsune item bloat by saying that it's not his fault that the other writers are so slow. Well, excuse me mr Hiyenne Mytee, but whose choice is it to write a dozen culturally restricted power creep items?

There is also the time he made it so if you didn't have a good enough presence check you straight up failed to convince the ghost that he was dead which is conflict with the FUCKING DESIGN DOC. I tried to raise that one on their forums but the echo was too strong and the cave collapsed atop me.

And he disregarded common sense in order to write Gweyr's backstory as the most nonsensical thing ever put on paper. But that's fine because WOLF MOM STRONK!

That's it for my rant. I am physically tired at this point. Enjoy your day everyone.

Bookmarking this for later lol. This is fantastic.

 

[enumate]

On the forums he justified his decision to make Kinu deal with it herself by saying that he is playing a DnD game as a princess who got sent far away to learn on her own and is super grateful about it. Can't make this shit up.

I'm fucking dead hahahahah! Not shade on people who play female characters, but the logic Tobs gave is hilarious haha!

 

[M0nte]

I'm fucking dead hahahahah! Not shade on people who play female characters, but the logic Tobs gave is hilarious haha!

No worries, people that play as females in these games are used to getting their shit kicked in.

 

[enumate]

And here I thought the Kinu stuff couldn't get any dumber. So, let's get this straight: Kinu, who is well-aware of the time dilation between the Amulet spirit realm and the real world and this is something that Kiyoko and Champ make mention of to Kinu, ends up being fatherless for a decade and Champ has to apologise for it despite this fact being known to practically everyone that matters? And don't even get me started on the gaijin thing. I'll just say that it's pretty stupid that the kitsune still treat you like a filthy outsider eventhough you've brought back their matron and also be so close to their God that you legit give up your soul to him to undergo a race reassignment procedure.

Let's also add the fact that Kitsune live wildly longer lifespans than a human and 10 years to them is equiv to months or a few years. Either Kiyoko bashed the champion during those 10 years or Kinu is a bit more 'special' than we thought.

 

[RenH]

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Wow. I can't believe it. It's actually real; an actual power fantasy in a game where power fantasies aren't allowed.

 

[RenH]

I'm fucking dead hahahahah! Not shade on people who play female characters, but the logic Tobs gave is hilarious haha!

So you mean to tell me that I can't have my power fantasy about playing as this dominant powerhouse of a broodmother that goes around kicking other people's shit in but Tobs can do it just fine?

Thanks, Savin! Love your game!

 

[enumate]

So you mean to tell me that I can't have my power fantasy about playing as this dominant powerhouse of a broodmother that goes around kicking other people's shit in but Tobs can do it just fine?

Thanks, Savin! Love your game!

Yes, because to Savin and Co. get paid to abuse people / patrons so why should they make an exception for you?