Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[fetishgirl]

If patrons are not dropping support then surely that means they are getting what they want? Which means they actually do know what fans want.
Call me crazy but that seems like it totally checks out to me.

Isn't ALL porn watching NPC's have sex while you do nothing?

To Bloren Not always the case some people just believe they will eventually get what they want, some are too invested at this point and others are on copium. I am myself to a certain degree as I don't write off people like TobS as completely terrible writers just arrogant, petty and disrespectful. Also their attitude has caused many to drop out and while there is competition to CoC 2 it isn't up to par or have the same level of art. I certainly am a big fan of Moira and she brings me back to this game regularly. Also my personal interactions with her have been fine she comes as a passionate likable person.

To Skandranon Depends on how you view porn I guess. In the physical sense you are right and to many that is enough hence why watching two porn stars going at it is enough for some people. I guess you aren't the type that gets immersed into the game world you are playing? Or maybe you don't care for self inserting either. I can't fault fans of the original for expecting ice cream and getting a burger instead. If NTR is your thing I guess this can be paradise for you and I don't knock other people's kinks and fetishes. However those here are certainly not wrong to be disappointed by both the attitude of a lot of the team and their lack of commitment to the original game.

EDIT just read the update I do like that agni is now the one tapping out after 3 rounds of sex as earlier criticism of mine was that the MC comes across as a bit of a chump. However I am not sure if I have the motivation to do the new quest anything regarding Gweyr just reminds me of lost opportunities.

To Lance Lot Isn't Brienne going to be part of a 3some/4some with her mother

 

[Skandranon]

To Skandranon Depends on how you view porn I guess. In the physical sense you are right and to many that is enough hence why watching two porn stars going at it is enough for some people. I guess you aren't the type that gets immersed into the game world you are playing? Or maybe you don't care for self inserting either. I can't fault fans of the original for expecting ice cream and getting a burger instead. If NTR is your thing I guess this can be paradise for you and I don't knock other people's kinks and fetishes. However those here are certainly not wrong to be disappointed by both the attitude of a lot of the team and their lack of commitment to the original game.

I get immersed in games fine, but self-insertion is something that always seemed kinda odd to me. It's weird when anime tries to do it, weird when games try to do it, and especially when porn tries to do it.

From my standpoint, I just want to see porn on screen. I don't give a crap if the PC is involved in the porn or not the PC involved, as long as porn is happening. I'm not personally involved either way so not much of a difference. Heck, I don't even play my own gender in these games, because why add more dudes?

And, tbh, there's no NTR in this game like...at all. Someone who was actually looking for NTR wouldnt even give this game a second look. NTR involves stealing, and noone in this game ever gets stolen, its just happy open sex all around that everyone is cool with.

I dunno if people are forgetting the original game, but there were actually plenty of scenes of your companions banging each other without your input. Heck, one of your companions would bang minos until you stopped her and also alluded several times to other flings she had on the side.

 

[helllover]

Yeah, what this game has is not NTR. No need to get angry about the fact that the game is about a lewd world where the characters are lewd. I'm even pretty sure that with the characters that you actually can get in relationships with, you can keep them from lewding other characters.

 

[Daken9]

New patch is out
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Gweyr, Tobs, Azzy, Cait, and Liaden all in a couple sentences. This update broke my shit meter in a way no other had before. Even the one that literally only had "Cait can now chung down mino-spunk and get fat" looked more appealing. Holy shit.

 

[namelessone22]

Not gonna lie, I'm one of those people. I'm into futa and traps but I have zero interest in getting pegged or giving oral. Most I would do is maybe a handy just to be nice. That's why I'm not into futas who are only interested in being the dominant one and plumbing your depths. I don't why I'm like this. Best guess is I have a kink for emasculating dickwielders with my own, getting them off without having to touch them down there and having a more flashy display of that.

iirc they're getting expansions to do a reverse on them and dedick them.

Never dealt with Evelyn (tavern lady?), but they should do the 'centurion' chick in the forest, who like Eryka (paladin in village), got the extra appendage added against their will. This would provide a plausible reason for dedicking them. No problem with doing others, just that they are 2 examples where it would fit the 'story' to do this.

Also, Etheryn. Didn't she say that she was leaning toward becoming a proper 'lady' (no dick) when she got out of her cage?
Nothing against people who want her to keep her dick - simple solution is to give us a choice when the time comes - (1) have her keep it, or (2) get rid of it in exchange for a pussy.

I assume the intention is for us to have a kid with her in one way or another (she carries it or PC does).
Again, giving us the choice of changing her appendage would solve a lot of problems and satisfy those on both sides of the fence.

Thoughts?

 

[namelessone22]

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"The Forbidden Thing" - does he mean hand holding?

 

[actualrealname]

Yes watching NPCs have sex while you do nothing is what everyone wanted from their power fantasy porn game

Please, watch your language, you never know when a writer might be lurking. If you must use those words, at least write p*wer f*ntasy or just PF. Thanks in advance.

 

[Skandranon]

simple solution is to give us a choice when the time comes - (1) have her keep it, or (2) get rid of it in exchange for a pussy.

Thoughts?

"Simple" here meaning like twice the work?

Or four times the work, considering Ryn already has variations for confident and submissive.

 

[Kharsel]

Looking how over last year amount of patrons increased by about 20ish percent.

Cope, seethe.

 

[Daken9]

"Simple" here meaning like twice the work?

Or four times the work, considering Ryn already has variations for confident and submissive.

Wsan wrote a whole lesbian wroute for Brienne's family, likely because of her being more otherwise male sided. I imagine 'all' it took was hard work and a desire to please. Weird, i know, but that's maybe why some writers are more liked than others.

 

[namelessone22]

I am actually pretty happy with the polls overall as I know its not a popular opinion here but at least I can say what I like without being chased off the boards by insecure devs.I still think Kiyoko is a good concept handled wrong and if Tobs stopped trying to own the 'haters' like a petulant child and fixed some of the crap he wrote into the kitsune's den I think it could be pretty awesome or maybe a corrupt route. However Tobs truly has written 2 of the worst story lines in the game so far which is Raphael vs Kinu and Gweyr's conclusion and add to that his petty attitude towards 'haters' in the forums. Also likes to commission art of the Mc's daughters Kinu and Asagiri being rutted by random males hence why so many here call him the cucklord and I do have to admit taking away the element of choice is pretty crap. Also the no incest thing seems like a strange excuse as it seems Wsan will be writing in incest with Brienne with the family.

Okay I get what Tobs means by not wanting the MC to be a controlling parent but to fall head over heels in love with a male kitsune who is a racist bigot and I use those words correctly. Feels like a complete lack of disrespect towards our Mc who in their greatest capability has shown Kinu nothing but love and affection. No point in picking the anti-traditionalist Kinu either as she still picks a kitsune. I thought she would be rebellious and do something awesome like a big F you to their traditions and ran off with a big dicked herm or even a male compainion of the MC who has been nothing but a total bro or love interest to us.

Despite this I just can't hate all of his work.I may have not liked the conclusion to Kiyoko's release and the subsequent stories afterwards especially with Kinu. However I adore the concept and how wholesome it was initially. I think Tobs has a lot of potential as a writer because of this but instead of listening to critics he wanted to own them with crazy amounts of lore dumps with walls of text and strange decisions that don't suit a kinky porn game like CoC 2.

I think some here won't admit it but they wouldn't be so mad at Tobs if they didn't like some of the content he has written unlike Bubble lord who most here can't even be bothered to spend much energy on as they are a lost cause.

Wsan deserves the win with Brienne as while he still caters to his own kinks doesn't attack his critics does his own thing and still provides a wholseome but kinky experience. However as others have pointed out some of the stuff Wsan writes is not to the liking of most on the forum here. Why Wsan is forgiven is because of his conduct towards customers and fans while understanding what is most important in a porn game.

As for Cait 4chan found it so trolls will be trolls it also explains why her voting pattern is the most irregular.

EDIT: Is it just me is way less content coming out then usual they didn't even do an update last week did they?

I pretty much agree with your Tobs & Wsan conclusions here.
I enjoyed most of Tobs' stuff early on (the Kiyoko astral plane stuff - oh and his 'Lore' stuff - especially the interesting stuff you find out by talking to the Goddess of Knowledge(?) (snake-goddess) was really interesting - gods actually being wraith that had evolved).
And yes, the inablility to handle criticism & actively aggravating critics, not through replies/posts, but through your actual writing - is just stupid
(the whole Kinu debacle - was badly handled. It was well written to start with, like you said. Watching her grow up & your interactions with her & Kiyoko were wholesome & quite enjoyable. I wouldn't have minded the incest if it was as well-written/handled as that early stage was. If Tobs either didn't want to / or wasn't allowed to include it - it's unfortunate but fine. What I object to is then depriving us of being able to watch her grow up gradually into what she is when she leaves the Astral plane along with Kiyoko.) And then complains that we weren't there to watch her grow up - which was denied us. Dick move.

Sorry, this is pretty jumbled.

 

[Skandranon]

Wsan wrote a whole lesbian wroute for Brienne's family, likely because of her being more otherwise male sided. I imagine 'all' it took was hard work and a desire to please. Weird, i know, but that's maybe why some writers are more liked than others.

That...doesn't really match up, I don't think.
That's another route to a one off character that not really going to have a major effect on the game, with a limited amount of sex scenes.

Ryn having two possible sexes puts her possible variations at 4, means you have to go back and change all her past sex scenes, future sex scenes, reference to her sex in any past and future dialogue, account for two different kinds of pregnancies if they go that route (hers and PCs), changes any story beats where her sex comes up in the future (and considering its actually a big part of her story, probably comes up quite a bit)...

Adding a extra set of possibilities to a story important companion is really different than adding an extra route to a fairly minor side character.

 

[Kroenen12]

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[namelessone22]

Download
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Thankyou both

 

[Bootyman]

Your character not being able to fuck Gweyr is still the dumbest fucking thing. You got a long, extended questline with the reward being she goes back to her dumbass husband.

 

[helllover]

Don't get though why the author behind Brienne is so against Arona.

Also aside from the obnoxious amount of Foxes and their characters that I don't feel are good characters (aside from the two foxes that have their own scenes in the frost area). I would say that in comparison to Tits, Coc2 has far less of "My Oc's are so great, the player has to be inferior to them or awed" scenes.

 

[Basty96]

Don't get though why the author behind Brienne is so against Arona.

Also aside from the obnoxious amount of Foxes and their characters that I don't feel are good characters (aside from the two foxes that have their own scenes in the frost area). I would say that in comparison to Tits, Coc2 has far less of "My Oc's are so great, the player has to be inferior to them or awed" scenes.

Easy Savin wanted to write a Cuck scene with Arona and Brienne and WSan was so adamantly against it that he probs just said "fuck this character" (not in a good way mind you)

 

[Biostar]

Thoughts?

They can’t decide whether or not Ryn wants to be a chick or not and if we’re not willing to grow a vagina to bear her a heir she’ll most likely impregnate Elthara. Fun.

"Simple" here meaning like twice the work?

Or four times the work, considering Ryn already has variations for confident and submissive.

Yeah, we wouldn’t want to increase the team’s workflow. The updates have been stacked as it is. Should spend more time on more inconsequential NPCs.

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No thanks savin

Third wheel or anal/BJ only, can’t wait.

 

[helllover]

I feel that there is somewhat an issue that they refuse to submit to a lead design or plan.

The biggest issue that I find with both Tits and Coc2 is that they want to add races and use them in their content but often don't want to put in the effort of having it recognized in game by other characters.

Also My fav writer is probably William.

 

[Trteyewuwqiq]

That...doesn't really match up, I don't think.
That's another route to a one off character that not really going to have a major effect on the game, with a limited amount of sex scenes.

Ryn having two possible sexes puts her possible variations at 4, means you have to go back and change all her past sex scenes, future sex scenes, reference to her sex in any past and future dialogue, account for two different kinds of pregnancies if they go that route (hers and PCs), changes any story beats where her sex comes up in the future (and considering its actually a big part of her story, probably comes up quite a bit)...

Adding a extra set of possibilities to a story important companion is really different than adding an extra route to a fairly minor side character.

The only reason they don't want to do it is the because the person who made the character is against it. Meanwhile Brint/Brienne literally has all of those things. Its entirely a matter of laziness or unwillingness to let players decide what they want to do.