NODOGAN

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Huh.
Well if she's a pure female guess I'll check it out
She is (at least the pure route one where you save her from a centaur pack is pure female, idk what happens if you let them gang-rape her, all i know is the corrupted Zo still teaches you martial arts later on) also you can train with her multiple times a day, you need to do the same training about 2-3 times before you learn a new skill tho so keep that in mind, once you learn enough skills from her she'll be DTF.
 

Dreakazoid

Newbie
May 28, 2017
22
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She is (at least the pure route one where you save her from a centaur pack is pure female, idk what happens if you let them gang-rape her, all i know is the corrupted Zo still teaches you martial arts later on) also you can train with her multiple times a day, you need to do the same training about 2-3 times before you learn a new skill tho so keep that in mind, once you learn enough skills from her she'll be DTF.
She's a pure female either way but if you don't save her the only interaction you'll ever have with her is one repeatable sex scene
 

Quintilus

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Aug 8, 2020
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corrupted Zo still teaches you martial arts later on
No???? In my corrupted save she able to only suck dick. And this haappens even after around 180 ingame days from her initial corruption. I need to fuck her more often, not once in a eternity?
 

VespidV

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It seemed really suspect to me when... literally all of the content in this area was written by the same guy, and how... unsexy? it all was. The dude just goes on and on and his porn scenes are SO boring, and once I got to like the third character who was explaining how complicated their culture is, and how I could NEVER grasp how awesome they are even once their god turned me into one of them (gigantic mistake), I understood how far up his own ass the writer must be. Who does this content appeal to? People who play their porn games for the political intrigue of boring japanese foxes?
Honestly I've always gotten the vibe it was initially done as like a dig towards the more obnoxious "I'd be fully accepted in Japan because I watch anime"-style weeaboos by having the overtly Japanese characters be really xenophobic towards you especially with Nakano outright doing the "no matter what you do you'll never really be one of us" thing to you when you first talk to him.

Also I feel like airing some of my own grievances with the Kitsune stuff, like I really really fucking hate that their xenophobia and hierarchical structure is constantly portrayed as an inherent part of them as a species and not a cultural thing. It's just really fucked up when you think about it and actually justifies the way people in universe view the Kitsune because you'd never be able to trust them to not try to take over other cultures and it also perpetuates orientalist shit about Asian people being inherently collectivist and submissive to authority. And it kinda sucks because with the personality the default Kinu has(btw I can't be the only one who feels like everything post orb regarding Kinu is made with this personality in mind right?) could've actually had a lot of potential to actually address the xenophobia stuff, if she was made to not be xenophobic like the other Kitsune.

Like they could've had her and Kiyoko genuinely treat you as part of their community and never doing the "you aren't one of us and could also never understand us" bullshit to avoid actually dealing with stuff people might not agree with and having them talk about you as though they consider you part of their community. For example the festival events could be portrayed as Kiyoko genuinely wanting you to experience her culture rather than the way it currently is where it's implied she's doing it out of obligation. And all the events could've centered around dealing with the xenophobia with Kinu viewing you as part of their culture with no catches. But with Kiyoko it could've been that she has a "they're one of the good ones thing" mindset towards you with the conflict that led to their falling out being that during her childhood Kinu just refused to ever view her culture as superior to others and the resolution being her getting Kiyoko to start adopting the mindset Kinu has.

And also a big problem with The Observers stuff aside from being overly verbose is just that they really fucking suck at maintaining characterization and making changes in characterization believable also the constant lampshading of stuff like how they didn't bother to allow you to interact with your other named Kitsune children doesn't help either. Like there's obvious stuff like how Kiyoko acts like a slightly different person after being freed but there's also stuff like the PC being portrayed as decently perceptive and amazing at recognizing patterns(being able to learn things really easily just by seeing someone else do it) and yet they just go "oh I guess I was wrong then" when you confront Kohaku over her paper-thin catgirl disguise.
 

Kuritzkale

Newbie
May 27, 2022
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126
Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME? Maybe this is just my cold, unfeeling heart, but the writing in this game isn't anywhere near good enough to get me to care about the fictional child my character made with a giant demon/dragon girl.

Glad to know the writers are spending time making really out of place wholesome family-sim content inside their degenerate furry power fantasy horsecock futa filled porn game, definitely not super weird (and kind of creepy)! My corrupt, nearly a demon dark knight character would definitely stick around and care about all of the children they make, for sure! Corruption content isn't nearly non existent in corruption of champions 2 or anything, surely!
 

Raf-Raf

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Dec 4, 2019
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Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME? Maybe this is just my cold, unfeeling heart, but the writing in this game isn't anywhere near good enough to get me to care about the fictional child my character made with a giant demon/dragon girl.

Glad to know the writers are spending time making really out of place wholesome family-sim content inside their degenerate furry power fantasy horsecock futa filled porn game, definitely not super weird (and kind of creepy)! My corrupt, nearly a demon dark knight character would definitely stick around and care about all of the children they make, for sure! Corruption content isn't nearly non existent in corruption of champions 2 or anything, surely!
Wholesome stuff is good but we all know the true stuff we want.
The HOLESOME stuff, oh sweet hoooooo-
 

Boardguy

Member
Feb 14, 2018
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The Kohaku thing is clearly a joke, though.

How funny of a joke it is is up for debate...
It does not work as a joke considering we know she is a trader, we know kitsune aren't exactly liked and the disguise only works if you have never met her. SHe has no reason to hide it from us either.

Honestly I've always gotten the vibe it was initially done as like a dig towards the more obnoxious "I'd be fully accepted in Japan because I watch anime"-style weeaboos by having the overtly Japanese characters be really xenophobic towards you especially with Nakano outright doing the "no matter what you do you'll never really be one of us" thing to you when you first talk to him.
That doesn't really work cause the champ has shown a willingness to learn and a willingness to help the kitsune and return Kiyoko to them. It would be one thing for Nakano to be like that at the start but as you help the den there should be the possibility of him warming up to you, you can still be an outsider but he knows treats you as a friend or comrade. Their are many edgy side characters throughout anime and media but they are typically allowed to have character growth with the MC if you are meant to give a shit at least. The majority of Kitsune being shits in a foreign land is a really bad idea, a "barbarian (you no metallurgy using yokai)" and his/her posse beat the shit out of several of your fighters, what do you think would happen if they were serious on driving you out?
 
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Kuritzkale

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May 27, 2022
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Fair enough. Isn't really a good criticism of the game either way, although "DO WHAT I WANT" is really the main thing here for me. The game would be so much better if it just focused on making content that I like and only content that I like, what about that do the devs not understand???
 
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Raf-Raf

Conversation Conqueror
Dec 4, 2019
6,415
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Fair enough. Isn't really a good criticism of the game either way, although "DO WHAT I WANT" is really the main thing here for me. The game would be so much better if it just focused on making content that I like and only content that I like, what about that do the devs not understand???
You seem to forget that this game is a salt mine in the first place.
If you request too much BASIC stuff like that, the devs might die of brain overwork.
Have pity on the poor sweatshop workers of this dev team.
 

MSGTNP

Member
Feb 5, 2020
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Honestly I've always gotten the vibe it was initially done as like a dig towards the more obnoxious "I'd be fully accepted in Japan because I watch anime"-style weeaboos by having the overtly Japanese characters be really xenophobic towards you especially with Nakano outright doing the "no matter what you do you'll never really be one of us" thing to you when you first talk to him.

Also I feel like airing some of my own grievances with the Kitsune stuff, like I really really fucking hate that their xenophobia and hierarchical structure is constantly portrayed as an inherent part of them as a species and not a cultural thing. It's just really fucked up when you think about it and actually justifies the way people in universe view the Kitsune because you'd never be able to trust them to not try to take over other cultures and it also perpetuates orientalist shit about Asian people being inherently collectivist and submissive to authority. And it kinda sucks because with the personality the default Kinu has(btw I can't be the only one who feels like everything post orb regarding Kinu is made with this personality in mind right?) could've actually had a lot of potential to actually address the xenophobia stuff, if she was made to not be xenophobic like the other Kitsune.

Like they could've had her and Kiyoko genuinely treat you as part of their community and never doing the "you aren't one of us and could also never understand us" bullshit to avoid actually dealing with stuff people might not agree with and having them talk about you as though they consider you part of their community. For example the festival events could be portrayed as Kiyoko genuinely wanting you to experience her culture rather than the way it currently is where it's implied she's doing it out of obligation. And all the events could've centered around dealing with the xenophobia with Kinu viewing you as part of their culture with no catches. But with Kiyoko it could've been that she has a "they're one of the good ones thing" mindset towards you with the conflict that led to their falling out being that during her childhood Kinu just refused to ever view her culture as superior to others and the resolution being her getting Kiyoko to start adopting the mindset Kinu has.

And also a big problem with The Observers stuff aside from being overly verbose is just that they really fucking suck at maintaining characterization and making changes in characterization believable also the constant lampshading of stuff like how they didn't bother to allow you to interact with your other named Kitsune children doesn't help either. Like there's obvious stuff like how Kiyoko acts like a slightly different person after being freed but there's also stuff like the PC being portrayed as decently perceptive and amazing at recognizing patterns(being able to learn things really easily just by seeing someone else do it) and yet they just go "oh I guess I was wrong then" when you confront Kohaku over her paper-thin catgirl disguise.
It's called shit, spiteful writing. I wouldn't expect it to change any time soon either from the Salt Mine lol

Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME? Maybe this is just my cold, unfeeling heart, but the writing in this game isn't anywhere near good enough to get me to care about the fictional child my character made with a giant demon/dragon girl.

Glad to know the writers are spending time making really out of place wholesome family-sim content inside their degenerate furry power fantasy horsecock futa filled porn game, definitely not super weird (and kind of creepy)! My corrupt, nearly a demon dark knight character would definitely stick around and care about all of the children they make, for sure! Corruption content isn't nearly non existent in corruption of champions 2 or anything, surely!
This is probably the only reason why I even bother reading this VN anymore so yes, I do enjoy the wholesome content when litters of salt aren't being poured in at the same time lol

Wholesome content in a 'PORN GAME'
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IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR!!!! What is this degeneracy ?????
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Good game although it needs more content.
Anyone who tortures and/or abuses that child needs to be found and shot -_-
 

Biostar

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Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME?
Dude that shit is my jam. I'm the kind of preg fetishist that wants the whole package from conception to child rearing with my waifus. That wholesome shit just enhances the lewd that it came from. Yeah they fucked up Kinu but that's on Tobs, not the concept itself. She was good pre-release.
 

Skandranon

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Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids?
Yep.

In fact it's one of the most requested things/complaints that come up again and again. People love interacting with their fantasy kids and were really upset at the declaration that kids wouldn't be unique or able to interact with.

Heck, "wholesome" scenes in porn games aren't new, it been a thing since forever.
 
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Skandranon

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It does not work as a joke considering we know she is a trader, we know kitsune aren't exactly liked and the disguise only works if you have never met her. SHe has no reason to hide it from us either.
Not a joke for the character, a joke for the player.

Like any cartoon character putting on a mustache and noone recognizing them.
 
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FallenBlood

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It's called shit, spiteful writing. I wouldn't expect it to change any time soon either from the Salt Mine lol
On that note, if any of ya'll think that it'll change I got bad news, almost any sex game that's been in production for more than 4-5 years is garbage being milked by a greedy dev. Breeding season, Malice and the machine, cloud meadow, bioasshard, pure onyx, hounds of the blade/meteor...shall I continue? It's a depressing fact.
 
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