Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.15] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Basty96]

She's just another bubbles self insert
man never got laid so he writes his character a total slut or wannabe casanova

which makes the handholding scene even more pathetic

 

[Evizzy89]

It mostly depends on how Patreon views it TBH, best comparison that springs to mind is the thousand year old child thing that's often used to try and excuse underage content. You can have pages upon pages of lore but if Patreon decides it's against their rules then they'll ban it and they're only getting stricter as time goes on. At this point I'm fully expecting Patreon to shoot themselves in the foot the same way onlyfans did by trying to completely ban adult content.

adult content on patreon makes up about 20% of the content, but as far as revenue goes it makes up about .30% not even 1% of the revenue
only fans is the exact opposite D=
even if patreon banned NSFW content its the equivalent to spilling a coffee, if patreon wanted to advertise more it would most likely actually profit them to outright ban NSFW content
I personally think Patreon is very lenient with their rules because there is alot of content in these games that are questionable especially in CoC2 and TiTs

but I have absolutely no personal experience other than subbing to a few patreons, how strict/lenient they really are

 

[teddidiah]

The baroness was always a cumpire, it was in one of the day zero design stuff in the idea storm documents. It has nothing to do with any patreon stipulations, it was just an idea to have her be an anti-corruption force because virgins taste better.

It's a porn game don't ask questions

 

[only1%]

Found out about this game a while back (like over a year ago) and it was fun played it for a little while and then i just stopped i didn't know why i but i just got bored of it then when tits html version came out i played that too but i stopped playing after little while like coc 2 and i still didn't know until i found this thread you guys perfectly example my fustrations with the game

 

[Quintilus]

The baroness was always a cumpire, it was in one of the day zero design stuff in the idea storm documents. It has nothing to do with any patreon stipulations, it was just an idea to have her be an anti-corruption force because virgins taste better.

It's a porn game don't ask questions

This entire thread is about asking questions. So that wont go.

Also, in that case rivalry between wannabe baroness cumpire and witch 'mother to descendant soul transferring' racoon is.....weird??? I mean, I get such impression that..whats her name??...let me launch this fucking PIECE OF...Evergreen is doing this to obtain immortality from overall explanation of her daughters and some pieces of her personal dialogues. But than this two 'supernatural', yes in quotations, beings have nothing in common between them aka nothing to make a fight for. Soooo......?

 

[smithsmithsmith]

adult content on patreon makes up about 20% of the content, but as far as revenue goes it makes up about .30% not even 1% of the revenue

Where are you getting these stats out of interest? According to an article on Backlinko as of November 2021 adult content in various forms made up about 8% of total content but for October the same year it was about 11% of total pledge income. However an article on thinkimpact seems to agree with your 23% figure but doesn't seem to list an income stat.

 

[CluelessReader]

The baroness was always a cumpire, it was in one of the day zero design stuff in the idea storm documents. It has nothing to do with any patreon stipulations, it was just an idea to have her be an anti-corruption force because virgins taste better.

It's a porn game don't ask questions

But questions can help point out issues that should be addressed and fixed by developers. Or I guess, in Savin's case, people he needs to silence

Speaking of 'Day Zero Design', comparing the earliest stuff to the new stuff really feels like the actually did have some sort of plan kept together that eventually fell to pieces. I wonder if it was Fenoxo himself keeping it together, or if there was some unknown person that ended up getting the boot when staff realized they couldn't just add whatever they wanted with them there vetoing it

 

[teddidiah]

There's a few would-be companions left, but the day zero document has actually been exhausted, it ended roughly up to Minos. There's been plenty of side stuff here and there as the day zero was mostly done up by Savin and Tobs and they've obviously added people to the mainline stable since. It's also been over five years since, of course. I can, uh, safely say Fenoxo is worse at keeping things cohesive as a project manager, though, dunno where that thought came from.

 

[Quintilus]

There's a few would-be companions left, but the day zero document has actually been exhausted, it ended roughly up to Minos.

So right from the beginning they didnt had even a rough template for a story past the, what...middle point?! Lovely.

 

[Shiro15]

It's a porn game don't ask questions

Always love when someone is telling people to turn off their brains. Just consume content. Don't ever think about it. Now this is nothing against you Teddidiah, I more frustrated with this argument. As I hear it regularly in my line of work.

As Quintillus already pointed out this thread is mostly for discussing/questioning the game, so naturally where going to think about it. But, even in fiction we have this thing called suspension of disbelief. Where the reader/viewer willingly accepts the rules of this fictional world even if they do not completely match up with our own. We accept that Super Man just so happened to be sent here to Earth and the yellow son gives him his powers, we accept that Jedi can use the force, we accept that vampires are near immortal magical beings that mainly fear the sun. There's rules and we accept them. We know that suspending some rules from reality is necessary to engage with fiction. We accept the new rules and just go with it.

But, when those rules are broken it takes us out of the whole experience. Force ghost being able to interact with the real world in Rise of Skywalker despite Star Wars establishing they can only pass on knowledge or be moral support, fuck it. Don't think about it. It's cool and fun. Of course Yoda would wait over forty years to use that power, when Luke might have needed his help in the fight against Vader or Palpatine. Its not like the fate of the galaxy was at risk. Super Man suddenly being immune to Kryptonite. Fuck it. Batman Judo throwing Super Man through a building despite Super-Man being able fight literal gods through space with ease. Don't think about it.



The reason we think about it, is for some people, the fun is in the role playing aspect. Enjoying a fictional world, that makes coherent sense and expertly maintains that fictional world. Its part of the reason Tolkien, Lucas, Araki, Miyazaki (both the anime and game director) and George R.R. Matin are respected, because they put effort into making a world that is believable. And it is why people call out modern Star Wars, comics, anime, and fiction as amateurish.

Now if Savin and Co want the Baroness to be an immortal force for good, that only feast on semen. Fine. But they have to work for that.

Edit: Right now its really fucking stupid. (and while minor) It just adds to list of really weird writing decisions, as I said in an ealier post Vampires already get energy through sex, psychic abilities and blood. Making that distinction is just kind of unnecessary. As is her rivalry with Lady Evergreen. So much of this story feels contrived and poorly thought out.

 

[Wrynn13]

I can kind of get the rivalry though, they both were part of the same group fighting the wraiths during the war and one went a light path (devouring the cum of virgins somehow being light) and one went a dark path (destroying the souls of her daughters, yeah pretty fucking dark.) Come to think of it Carmen's light path might have nothing to do with being a cumpire (still stupid) because she does mention a oath she took to harm nothing living which is why she couldn't defend the town.

 

[Lord Kentus]

So right from the beginning they didnt had even a rough template for a story past the, what...middle point?! Lovely.

Its game of thrones all over again

 

[Raf-Raf]

Its game of thrones all over again

Bruh, that's insulting to GoT 'coz it was great up until before the last season.
This one has been shit from the start.

 

[Quintilus]

If carmen a cumpire, what, glorious ex paladin DO NOT detected foul beast for a...how much he did lived there? Or hes the same kind of paladins as old wow had/have, in case of any danger cast "bubble" -> cast "return to town". Same question for other village wannabe old-timers.

Oh no, I get it. Its so obvious, it always was right under the plain sight...
Player should reach carmen castle, learn flying demonic horse cock tuum...ehh...call, use it, wait arrival of kassyra and then throw carmen into kassyra. She will continuously suck her dry and she wouldnt have time on...whatever she was doing...nothing I guess...
Win-win, player neutralized kassyra, carmen get an infinite source of semen (stained but whatever, sanders should have use smite on her each three days).
Now its only a question how to deal with....what the name of main villain, again?! Savin?!

 

[teddidiah]

So right from the beginning they didnt had even a rough template for a story past the, what...middle point?! Lovely.

Pretty much. Honestly, given the development time I think it's realistic to acknowledge things might change around that point.

Although I lied, there was also a sea adventure planned.

 

[Quintilus]

Although I lied, there was also a sea adventure planned.

What you mean "was"? It still planned.

 

[Shiro15]

I can kind of get the rivalry though, they both were part of the same group fighting the wraiths during the war and one went a light path (devouring the cum of virgins somehow being light) and one went a dark path (destroying the souls of her daughters, yeah pretty fucking dark.) Come to think of it Carmen's light path might have nothing to do with being a cumpire (still stupid) because she does mention a oath she took to harm nothing living which is why she couldn't defend the town.

My main issue is that no-one is actively hostile or getting in each others way. This is an issue with every faction. With maybe the exception being the centaur's and mares as they often breed with one another. The kitsunes apparently have beef with the Tanuki's ,and while yes evergreen can send you on a quest to genocide the fuck out of those pretentious, racist bastards thats the only time factions actively interact with one another in a way that causes real conflict beyond story related quest.

This could be a whole interesting aspect of the story. If you're working with the Kitsune's Evergreen could refuse to help increase your pregnancy speed or prevent you from buying stuff from her daughters. You could work with Carmen and Keros to destroy Evergreen, as both the cumpire and fox sluts survive through sex. How you work with faction could effect Hawthorne and lead to you gaining unique abilities and making each play-through something special. But nope everyone lives with in miles of each other have a rivalry with one another and never do anything about it. There cool with you interacting with there supposed enemies. When you could be a possible spy and sharing information with people who don't mind killing them. (Further proof the Kitsune are dumb as hell and that Nakano is terrible at his job)

 

[Shiro15]

Pretty much. Honestly, given the development time I think it's realistic to acknowledge things might change around that point.

Although I lied, there was also a sea adventure planned.

It'll come out 10 years from now, when the moders put it in.

 

[muschi26]

My main issue is that no-one is actively hostile or getting in each others way. This is an issue with every faction. With maybe the exception being the centaur's and mares as they often breed with one another. The kitsunes apparently have beef with the Tanuki's ,and while yes evergreen can send you on a quest to genocide the fuck out of those pretentious, racist bastards thats the only time factions actively interact with one another in a way that causes real conflict beyond story related quest.

This could be a whole interesting aspect of the story. If you're working with the Kitsune's Evergreen could refuse to help increase your pregnancy speed or prevent you from buying stuff from her daughters. You could work with Carmen and Keros to destroy Evergreen, as both the cumpire and fox sluts survive through sex. How you work with faction could effect Hawthorne and lead to you gaining unique abilities and making each play-through something special. But nope everyone leaves with in miles of each other have a rivalry with one another and never do anything about it. There cool with you interacting with there supposed enemies. When you could be a possible spy and sharing information with people who don't mind killing them. (Further proof the Kitsune are dumb as hell and that Nakano is terrible at his job)

That would require a team of people working together to create a complex, intricate RPG world with equally deep characters and interactions. What they have is a rag-tag group of writers(?) each working on their own stuff based on a barebones D&D ripoff of a world as a base, and never interacting with each other.

 

[Shiro15]

That would require a team of people working together to create a complex, intricate RPG world with equally deep characters and interactions. What they have is a rag-tag group of writers(?) each working on their own stuff based on a barebones D&D ripoff of a world as a base, and never interacting with each other.

You're not wrong. But, fuck this is painful to watch. Savin literally plays D&D, and it's known. How can the people who support him tolerate this? Also I've never seen Savin play D&D, but his quest or who ever is dungeon master when he plays must be ass.