Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.15] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[MoneyMan181]

I understand your plight, but I think there's already a decent amount of vanilla content in the game, and that porn games in general tend to be very, very vanilla with most dynamics, and it's good that CoC offers some variety.

I'm not specifically after vanilla content, I think most of the game is pretty vanilla scene-wise. I just want the devs to stop doing the same shit over and over again, and I really hate the constant sub/dom tones the game shoves down your throat. It's fine if SOME characters are based around that, but it feels like almost every characters defining trait is whether they're a dom or a sub. I'm just tired of it. It feels lazy and flimsy, like they couldn't actually be bothered to flesh these characters out so they just stick a label on 'em and chuck them into the game.

Just compare it to CoC1 for example. You actually make connections with people in that game and most characters are not explicitly a dom or a sub. Sure they might have inclinations, but they don't feel constrained into a narrow archetype like the characters do in this game. Again, even if they were constrained into that narrow archetype, I wouldn't mind it as long as it wasn't done in such a generic and copy-pasted feeling way. Hell, Marble is based almost entirely around feeding you her milk but it works because it's done in an interesting way with several outcomes.

Like I said, I'm not specifically after vanilla content. My favorite scene is licking the sweat off of Brienne's body and I wish it was actually dirtier in more ways than one. I moreso just want the characters interacting like actual people rather than, "Haha yeah Arona only cares about sex, beer, and fucking." Or, "Omg Cait is like the perfect most special-ist girl in the whole wide world, she's so kind and caring and slutty! You go girl for owning your whoriness! Girls get it done!". Not forcing a character into being a sub/dom from the outset would really help with that imo, I just worded it poorly.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

I'm not specifically after vanilla content, I think most of the game is pretty vanilla scene-wise. I just want the devs to stop doing the same shit over and over again, and I really hate the constant sub/dom tones the game shoves down your throat. It's fine if SOME characters are based around that, but it feels like almost every characters defining trait is whether they're a dom or a sub. I'm just tired of it. It feels lazy and flimsy, like they couldn't actually be bothered to flesh these characters out so they just stick a label on 'em and chuck them into the game.

Just compare it to CoC1 for example. You actually make connections with people in that game and most characters are not explicitly a dom or a sub. Sure they might have inclinations, but they don't feel constrained into a narrow archetype like the characters do in this game. Again, even if they were constrained into that narrow archetype, I wouldn't mind it as long as it wasn't done in such a generic and copy-pasted feeling way. Hell, Marble is based almost entirely around feeding you her milk but it works because it's done in an interesting way with several outcomes.

Like I said, I'm not specifically after vanilla content. My favorite scene is licking the sweat off of Brienne's body and I wish it was actually dirtier in more ways than one. I moreso just want the characters interacting like actual people rather than, "Haha yeah Arona only cares about sex, beer, and fucking." Or, "Omg Cait is like the perfect most special-ist girl in the whole wide world, she's so kind and caring and slutty! You go girl for owning your whoriness! Girls get it done!". Not forcing a character into being a sub/dom from the outset would really help with that imo, I just worded it poorly.

Right, I can agree more with this. Most of the dynamics are very re-treaded paths, yes.

But CoC 1 is not as varied as you remember, or at least it wasn't to me when I last replayed it.

 

[BIG ZAM]

ok . . . I kinda fucked up and got the shy looking Kinu for the second. Is there any way to change/cheat her into becoming Kitsune Hime?

 

[undyingrevenant]

I understand your plight but I find myself amicably disagreeing. I think there's already a decent amount of vanilla content in the game, and that porn games in general tend to be very, very vanilla with most dynamics, and it's good that CoC offers some variety.

Specifically about futas though, most futas in the game ARE very dom/sub, that is true. I don't think we have any vanilla futa content in the game..though I'm sure someone can dig it up if they wanted to, most are of some sort of dom/sub variety, which I am personally quite okay with as that's what I want but I can see it being annoying to others. Even if there isn't a literal dom sub meter or route, all futas seem to have some sort of power dynamic written in.

I understand your point also but I think they mainly meant character relationship wise, not just the direct smut content. Stuff like most recently drifa, or etheryn, kas, or what used to be comforting and hugging Berwyn (may he rip) when he cried etc. I think part of it is them making too much work for themselves, especially when they want certain characters only written by them. Stuff to build player investment and to create more (I friggin love brienne)s.

Like arona for example, she has a decent amount of Dom content, a decent amount of sub content, but is that better or would her having a lot of content where she was in the middle or just one be better, create more natural player attachment etc. Then you have the character bloat where you have for all intents and purposes villager a b or c to bang, if you're lucky they'll have a single gimmick, when instead they could have added to any other character that's already been there. Which would also fit their design more, because tobs has been on record talking about how there's not bars or shops in all locations because it'd be generic or bloat or whatever, so you'd figure less characters fully fleshed out would be the natural extension.

Characters like kiyoko are supposed to be waifu simulators but their content ends ridiculously soon for characters theoretically your character would spend up to hundreds of years with. Referring to their prior point, you also have characters again like arona, who instead of being normal are exaggerated extremes. Ie turbo sub arona "p pwease bang me uwu" or turbo Dom where *door bangs open "sup ho, you know that girl you just proposed to, she fit me reaaaal well" *beats you unconscious. Instead of just having a orc amazon wife that's strong and independent but not non sexily abusive, and has loving moments but isn't like bipolar between the two. It'd also make a lot less writing effort maintaining 2 separate scripts, and you could still have extreme stuff behind choices.

ok . . . I kinda fucked up and got the shy looking Kinu for the second. Is there any way to change/cheat her into becoming Kitsune Hime?

Not that I'm aware of but I'd really consider before changing either way, the farmer variant is considered by quite a few people to be "better", also seems to be preferred by her dev, is more directly loving to mc, is more independent and unique instead of being kiyoko 2, not in a "like mother" way but a "mom said my interests were trash then slapped me so I only like good things now" way

 

[muschi26]

"sup ho, you know that girl you just proposed to, she fit me reaaaal well"

Does dom Arona really bang Kiyoko/Brienne/Livrea/whoever this is referring to?

 

[jfmherokiller]

ok . . . I kinda fucked up and got the shy looking Kinu for the second. Is there any way to change/cheat her into becoming Kitsune Hime?

my own two cents: would you rather emo girl daughter who pushes you away because shes metaphorically checking her phone every 10 minutes and thinks you have father cooties or something. Or would you rather have a daughter who you can check in on from time to time, give her gifts,play with her, and I guess generally feel accomplished?

From my pov the two options are basicly:
daughter who atleast appreciates your presence.
daughter who as far as I can tell lothes your presence and I almost wouldn't put it past her to roll her eyes at the MC's funeral.

 

[muschi26]

my own two cents: would you rather emo girl daughter who pushes you away because shes metaphorically checking her phone every 10 minutes and thinks you have father cooties or something. Or would you rather have a daughter who you can check in on from time to time, give her gifts,play with her, and I guess generally feel accomplished?

From my pov the two options are basicly:
daughter who atleast appreciates your presence.
daughter who as far as I can tell lothes your presence and I almost wouldn't put it past her to roll her eyes at the MC's funeral.

OK, but for some people, the question is: do I want a daughter that shows off her legs and a lot of cleavage? or the daughter who doesn’t?

 

[Rebel2197]

someone needs to turn this game into a unity or unreal engine type game

 

[jfmherokiller]

someone needs to turn this game into a unity or unreal engine type game

why?

 

[AudioMat]

"Trust me, this text based game needs the power of Unreal Engine 5."

 

[muschi26]

"Trust me, this text based game needs the power of Unreal Engine 5."

I assume they meant turn it into a fully-3D game.

 

[jfmherokiller]

I assume they meant turn it into a fully-3D game.

that was my assumption as well and as somone who has tried to mess with unreal you basicly need an unreal amount of pc power to compile the test demo from scratch.

 

[Fizel]

Imma just yeet this in here as it does have the latest version. (BTW I have nothing to do with this folder, I just have it saved to check for the latest versions and it's been shared here many times.)

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[jfmherokiller]

this game for what its worth has a suprising amount of content. it has enough to make one feel salty about loosing a save file

 

[Walk Cycle]

I must've missed it. Or forgotten about it since it was some time since I played. How is it slow?

It's in the options menu. Set the difficulty to "Story mode" and your party will be significantly buffed while enemy encounters will be weakened. It's still slow because even with the buffs certain enemies still have sufficient health and evasion to drag the fight on, and even with story mode on fighting without party members is still a death sentence.

Kinda weird you're having trouble with TiTS combat though. It's straightforward enough that I don't have any trouble with it even without Easy Mode on, it's just a matter of knowing enemy resistances and weaknesses.

 

[Kroenen12]

Does dom Arona really bang Kiyoko/Brienne

Nope and it will never happen

Does dom Arona really bang Livrea

Actually yes

 

[muschi26]

Nope and it will never happen

Actually yes

OK, I just didn't know who the "person you've proposed to" was in this example. Do you have any say in the matter? or does she just fuck Livrea no matter (if she's dom)?

 

[Kroenen12]

OK, I just didn't know who the "person you've proposed to" was in this example. Do you have any say in the matter? or does she just fuck Livrea no matter (if she's dom)?

the scene happens if you bring arona (dom) to the class visit

 

[MogwaiKupo]

And even more content gated behind going along with the child slaughtering sociopath, nice.

Hey remember, if you're on Kas' love path you still can't get access to her quest divine intervention or get most of her backstory without building Cait's temple. Besides if they didn't gate content, nobody would even bother with Gweyr

 

[undyingrevenant]

OK, I just didn't know who the "person you've proposed to" was in this example. Do you have any say in the matter? or does she just fuck Livrea no matter (if she's dom)?

Basically, Dom arona is hardcore. If you get off to her cucking or beating you, have at it, if not, your option is sub. She will *probably* not be able to go after brienne or other "major" characters. I should have elaborated on who she went after but basically she's one of those "if you have to ask, you shouldn't do it" types of characters. Theres technically nothing stopping them from letting Dom arona have scenes banging every character you're in a relationship with.

Basically, all the memes or exaggerations about Cait cucking you except arona does it to characters you might actually care about and is a prick on top of it. Again, no offense or insult meant, but if anyone has to ask specifics on how she is I'd remove her from the game or get the sub version. You're not in a position to say "please don't do that" you're basically locked into being her slave.