Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.27] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[NaturalEnclave]

I was talking in general about how I always romanced Kas because the other choices have no content and thus aren't barely choices, and Alypia chimed in with her take.

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Basically "just don't do it if you think it doesn't fit" which was a pretty meh opinion.

Honestly, reading her reply also gave me a pretty "eehhhh..." feeling. See, I get what she means, but the issue here isn't "rewarding the player for not going for Kassyra's content", the issue is, in my eyes, not PUNISHING the player for going for Kas. She is a freaking evil corruptor demon you are supposed to stop. And yet, there is zero drawbacks for trying to side with her. As the result, not going for her makes it feel like you are just... well, skipping content out of... roleplay? Immersion?

It's a choice, yes, and, arguably, it's a choice that seemingly supposed to have consequences, but in reality, it feels more like there is a corridor that eventually divides, but instead of two routes you can take, there is a bucket you can pick up that adds a lot of new content by just taking it. It's still the same road, but now you have the bucket, which is more content, so what's the harm in taking it every time?

As the result, it feels like you might as well bite the bullet, because there are zero disadvantages to going Kas route and it feels like developers intended you to do it anyway. And the only justification you can do to not take it, again, "mah immersion"

 

[Walk Cycle]

I was talking in general about how I always romanced Kas because the other choices have no content and thus aren't barely choices, and Alypia chimed in with her take.

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Basically "just don't do it if you think it doesn't fit" which was a pretty meh opinion.

Comment approved by Savin, of course.

No one's asking for exclusive items when we're pursuing (or not pursuing) a relationship from an NPC. People are just pointing out that one choice has more content than the other, and it's the narratively wrong choice.

Then again, it is Alypia after all. They're the one that made a choice of corrupting the Hive then refuse to make content for the corrupt route because they don't want too.

Also is Alypia really a chick?

 

[Skandranon]

Comment approved by Savin, of course.

No one's asking for exclusive items when we're pursuing (or not pursuing) a relationship from an NPC. People are just pointing out that one choice has more content than the other, and it's the narratively wrong choice.

Then again, it is Alypia after all. They're the one that made a choice of corrupting the Hive then refuse to make content for the corrupt route because they don't want too.

Also is Alypia really a chick?

Alypia didn't do anything in the hive iirc.

And as far as I know, yeah, she is, as is SkoW. At the risk of sounding slightly sexist, I'd say her writing pointed that way anyway.

Alypia's characters tend to be a lot more romantic and relationship-first than everyone else.

 

[harem.king]

I was talking in general about how I always romanced Kas because the other choices have no content and thus are barely choices, and Alypia chimed in with her take.

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Basically "just don't do it if you think it doesn't fit" which was a pretty meh opinion.

>> Hey, your BBEG final boss is on the cover image of this game.
>> What if you had more than 1 path for her?
> NOPE! one path, and you can choose to either do it or totally ignore her and avoid her to avoid her content
> Savin approves

what a bunch of hacks.
Skandranon actually suggested 3 perfectly reasonable alternative routes of interaction with her

 

[Skandranon]

Honestly, reading her reply also gave me a pretty "eehhhh..." feeling. See, I get what she means, but the issue here isn't "rewarding the player for not going for Kassyra's content", the issue is, in my eyes, not PUNISHING the player for going for Kas. She is a freaking evil corruptor demon you are supposed to stop. And yet, there is zero drawbacks for trying to side with her. As the result, not going for her makes it feel like you are just... well, skipping content out of... roleplay? Immersion?

It's a choice, yes, and, arguably, it's a choice that seemingly supposed to have consequences, but in reality, it feels more like there is a corridor that eventually divides, but instead of two routes you can take, there is a bucket you can pick up that adds a lot of new content by just taking it. It's still the same road, but now you have the bucket, which is more content, so what's the harm in taking it every time?

As the result, it feels like you might as well bite the bullet, because there are zero disadvantages to going Kas route and it feels like developers intended you to do it anyway. And the only justification you can do to not take it, again, "mah immersion"

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Yeah that was basically my thinking. My response even included some ideas on how what kind of content could (and should!) be included on a non-romantic Kas route.

Never got another reply though sooo...eh.

 

[Walk Cycle]

Alypia didn't do anything in the hive iirc.

Well I'll be

I mixed her up with SKoW.

 

[claralover]

Don't worry fellas, a new patch dropped, surely it'll be good right?

 

[Walk Cycle]

Don't worry fellas, a new patch dropped, surely it'll be good right?

I saw the new Lumia cg and immediately felt something is about to go wrong.

 

[Skandranon]

I read "Atugia expansion soon", so I'm happy.

Gimme head.

 

[claralover]

I saw the new Lumia cg and immediately felt something is about to go wrong.

literally the only part the caught my attention was
"The next phase of the Main Story Quest has entered the code stage"

 

[zwere]

Don't worry fellas, a new patch dropped, surely it'll be good right?
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[Comiies]

Honestly, reading her reply also gave me a pretty "eehhhh..." feeling. See, I get what she means, but the issue here isn't "rewarding the player for not going for Kassyra's content", the issue is, in my eyes, not PUNISHING the player for going for Kas. She is a freaking evil corruptor demon you are supposed to stop. And yet, there is zero drawbacks for trying to side with her. As the result, not going for her makes it feel like you are just... well, skipping content out of... roleplay? Immersion?

It's a choice, yes, and, arguably, it's a choice that seemingly supposed to have consequences, but in reality, it feels more like there is a corridor that eventually divides, but instead of two routes you can take, there is a bucket you can pick up that adds a lot of new content by just taking it. It's still the same road, but now you have the bucket, which is more content, so what's the harm in taking it every time?

As the result, it feels like you might as well bite the bullet, because there are zero disadvantages to going Kas route and it feels like developers intended you to do it anyway. And the only justification you can do to not take it, again, "mah immersion"

If bad why hot

 

[Comiies]

A hypothetical.
Let's say CoC II Redone happens, and the team behind it finally gets their shit together:

-the world has good lore that doesn't contradict itself, instead building a comprehensive world
-combat/inventory/movement mechanics are smooth and good
-characters (npcs or companions if there will be any) are likeable and have good backstory, interactions and qeustlines
-the player character is in the spotlight again and the game is back to being a player-driven powerfantasy
-your choices in fact matter and game can be completed with various outcomes
-devs close all forms of communication, their forum circlejerk vanishing into the mist

BUT, there is a tradeoff:

-all characters are furries or scalies, at least the sexable ones
-all chatacters are futas and shemales, men and women barely existing
-lead dev's OC is back at it again being the (2nd this time) most important character in the story
-the devs write only their fetishes and nothing else, even if you don't like it
-updates don't happen until a piece of content is fully done and integrated with the rest of the game
-game bricks if you try to mod it

Do you take the trade? Does it make it better or worse for you? It's the only way I could see it happened if they actually buckled to all the (rigthful) criticism, while probably still keeping their schenanigans. Or that's my hypothesis, at least.

also also the world getting good lore is impossible beacuse coc1 by itself is shit!

 

[Biostar]

New Temple of Mallach scene, servicing a whole room of catboys (with or without Cait). (by Magenta Noodle)

Nice to know the temple is still a deadend of interest.

If you’ve married both Ahmri and Atani, they have a new Diplomatic Relationship development, accessed from Ahmri’s sex menu in the centaur village, with sexy and non sexy, and a silly-mode only, set of any scenes. (By Gardeford)

Only thing of interest to me, how sad.

 

[Lucky_I]

the issue is, in my eyes, not PUNISHING the player for going for Kas.

If it punished the player then no one would play it. This is a common problem with these kind of situations.

Baldur's Gate 3 has the perfect case in point. The mind parasite powers don't anything negative, you can use them as much as you want no problem. But the game framed it as if you were going to get punished for using them. As a result roughly 70% of the people who played the game didn't use them(based on the player stats Larian released a month or 2 ago).

 

[Deviton123]

Bro should get into comedy

 

[Rango20]

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Bro should get into comedy

bruh

I'm sure ALL of their patrons, subscribestars and other names for paypigs will be happ-
THRILLED
to pay for ABSOLUTELY NO CONTENT for the next few months to a year
Good luck with that

 

[claralover]

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Bro should get into comedy

I would agree as their output has declined significantly, however that's not how jobs work unfortunately and I doubt it would actually fix anything.

bruh

I'm sure ALL of their patrons, subscribestars and other names for paypigs will be happ-
THRILLED
to pay for ABSOLUTELY NO CONTENT for the next few months to a year
Good luck with that

they'd probably encourage it lmao

 

[Skandranon]

As a result roughly 70% of the people who played the game didn't use them(based on the player stats Larian released a month or 2 ago).

That's a pretty decent stat though, I think.
You put a monkeys paw, kinda evil option in the game, most people aren't going to take it. That's how people mostly play games. A while third of the player base did take those powers, that's a huge amount.

The disappointing part is that their roleplaying decisions weren't backed up by anything. If I make a choice to avoid consequences, there should be consequences I actually avoided.

 

[GokutheG]

Honestly, reading her reply also gave me a pretty "eehhhh..." feeling. See, I get what she means, but the issue here isn't "rewarding the player for not going for Kassyra's content", the issue is, in my eyes, not PUNISHING the player for going for Kas. She is a freaking evil corruptor demon you are supposed to stop. And yet, there is zero drawbacks for trying to side with her. As the result, not going for her makes it feel like you are just... well, skipping content out of... roleplay? Immersion?

It's a choice, yes, and, arguably, it's a choice that seemingly supposed to have consequences, but in reality, it feels more like there is a corridor that eventually divides, but instead of two routes you can take, there is a bucket you can pick up that adds a lot of new content by just taking it. It's still the same road, but now you have the bucket, which is more content, so what's the harm in taking it every time?

As the result, it feels like you might as well bite the bullet, because there are zero disadvantages to going Kas route and it feels like developers intended you to do it anyway. And the only justification you can do to not take it, again, "mah immersion"

This is an honest question because I have played in a long while so my memory is fuzzy. How much corruption is Kas actually responsible for in the setting? I know she was directly responsible for introducing imps, painted Demons, the corrupted plants, Behemoth and exposing the worst instincts of the elf queen. But it seems like there was already an evil cult before she got there, kitsunes who will rape you if you don't agree to feed them, orcs who will rape and enslave you, the minotaurs who if they get too rapey need to wear magical armor to turn them into bimbo cows, whatever Evergreen is up to and biggest red flag to me are the sex temples that groom kids to be prostitutes but I'm supposed to believe they didn't use those same kids as prostitutes. I also don't trust those so called gods.

I guess my point is that Kas isn't really that big of a threat because all she's doing is exposing how fucked up the realm truly is under the surface.