mistress.ayin

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Okay so I wanna actually address this because it's important. Maybe I can help bridge some understanding as to why she acts as she does.

Yes, Kalysea is not treating the PC with much respect you're correct, this is intentional. During her initial interactions with the PC she sees them more as a tool to achieve her goals than a partner, if they have some fun along the way then that's just a bonus. Kaly is not playing on your team, but your goals are somewhat aligned, think of her as a mysterious witch of the woods who seems to be working alongside you yet refuses to explain why while she pulls and tugs at your strings. That is meant to make you somewhat uncomfortable with her, the dynamic is finding her hot but also knowing that giving into those desires is a bad idea, a metaphorical succubus without the wings (plus the two extra hooves). She's a bad influence, but your curiosity draws you in, it's exciting because it's dangerous. I hope that explains why me and Wsan designed her content the way it is, currently in the game she is a 'villain'.

I will say though, Wsan is just writing for a porn game, any percieved slight is just that so please don't see it as him trying to antagonise you. He worked his butt off writing Kaly and I've been very happy with it so far as the commissioner.
Ok, i don't have any problem with you, but i prefer to kill kalysea at the first time i seen her, its empty jungle and there is no laws (of course octavia too).:ROFLMAO:
And in my opinion Wsan are a sick person, i do not taking back my word, he has a mind illness.
 
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@mistress.ayin nothing but hate in your heart for Wsan, eh? :'D
But using $700 for a commission is crazy, wtf, I might get into this writing smut gig on side with some help from AI :))
 

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Yes, Kalysea is not treating the PC with much respect you're correct, this is intentional. During her initial interactions with the PC she sees them more as a tool to achieve her goals than a partner, if they have some fun along the way then that's just a bonus. Kaly is not playing on your team, but your goals are somewhat aligned, think of her as a mysterious witch of the woods who seems to be working alongside you yet refuses to explain why while she pulls and tugs at your strings. That is meant to make you somewhat uncomfortable with her, the dynamic is finding her hot but also knowing that giving into those desires is a bad idea, a metaphorical succubus without the wings (plus the two extra hooves). She's a bad influence, but your curiosity draws you in, it's exciting because it's dangerous. I hope that explains why me and Wsan designed her content the way it is, currently in the game she is a 'villain'.
If this was what was represented then I 'd like her a lot more but that's not what we got; the PC doesn't bring up counter offers or the fact that a corrupted champ that is down for nefarious actions wouldn't recognize when they're being musked into compliance or asks "why can't I fuck u instead since u need me more than I need u?" We are forced to participate instead of negotiate like how the scene is framed.
 

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@mistress.ayin nothing but hate in your heart for Wsan, eh? :'D
But using $700 for a commission is crazy, wtf, I might get into this writing smut gig on side with some help from AI :))
This guy not created this kalysea only, look at all of his characters he created in the game (evelyn, if any one do that her works to me i will kill that person immidiatly, Orlaith, Klemaia, Yani, Octavia, ..., more and more), you can see the mental illness. He is a sadistic sissy guy with a strong humiliation forced fetishes. :LOL:
 

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He does
This guy not created this kalysea only, look at all of his characters he created in the game (evelyn, if any one do that her works to me i will kill that person immidiatly, Orlaith, Klemaia, Yani, Octavia, ..., more and more), you can see the mental illness. He is a sadistic sissy guy with a strong humiliation forced fetishes. :LOL:
He does seem to have that vibe of having harsh shit happen to the PC but we can't get to do that at all -_-
 

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This guy not created this kalysea only, look at all of his characters he created in the game (evelyn, if any one do that her works to me i will kill that person immidiatly, Orlaith, Klemaia, Yani, Octavia, ..., more and more), you can see the mental illness. He is a sadistic sissy guy with a strong humiliation forced fetishes. :LOL:
Ok, with retrospect from other Wsan characters, I kinda start to see your point. And start to understand why he seemingly stopped giving a fuck about Brienne. :HideThePain:
 

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If this was what was represented then I 'd like her a lot more but that's not what we got; the PC doesn't bring up counter offers or the fact that a corrupted champ that is down for nefarious actions wouldn't recognize when they're being musked into compliance or asks "why can't I fuck u instead since u need me more than I need u?" We are forced to participate instead of negotiate like how the scene is framed.
Doing so would require a sub Kaly route which I can't realistically afford to commission. As I've said many times people are free to commission it (or write it to contribute with standard proceedures) themselves, it would absolutely be possible within her story but by allowing the PC to say 'hey I want to bargain with X' you have to also write all of the content that follows. Right now the path follows the logic of 'the only winning move is to not play her game'.

Personally I actually really like the idea of having the option to turn the tables on Kaly and have her made into the PC's bondage pony like Eubicha for dommy players, but it's content I have no sexual interest in so I'm not gonna be cashing out on it. That being said I have been playing around with a middle-ground that allows for more flexibility with Kaly in your relationship but it all relies on what comes out of the discussion when things are ready to be worked on.
 

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If you have an option to completely remove content you dislike from the game how can you still be so angry about it?
There might have been a time when I would have said it takes Wsan away from other projects I'm actually interested in, but considering how much a disappointment his latest content has been, I don't really care about that anymore. Have at him.
 

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When written well? Pretty alright.
That was me supposing that Kalysea can only really affect the rest of the cast if you accept her around.

Good point, at any rate. Specially the bad apple bit. Their later handling of it made this place the better one to discuss it, whether you like the vitriol or not.

Neat breakdown, but the herd of bad writers in other porn games don't give it a pass in fact it makes us as the enjoyers and consumers look like idiots/shit-tasters for sponsoring foolishness.
Yeah. I'd argue there's more fun to be had on other games even if you don't find them good.
 
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Doing so would require a sub Kaly route which I can't realistically afford to commission. As I've said many times people are free to commission it (or write it to contribute with standard proceedures) themselves, it would absolutely be possible within her story but by allowing the PC to say 'hey I want to bargain with X' you have to also write all of the content that follows. Right now the path follows the logic of 'the only winning move is to not play her game'.

Personally I actually really like the idea of having the option to turn the tables on Kaly and have her made into the PC's bondage pony like Eubicha for dommy players, but it's content I have no sexual interest in so I'm not gonna be cashing out on it. That being said I have been playing around with a middle-ground that allows for more flexibility with Kaly in your relationship but it all relies on what comes out of the discussion when things are ready to be worked on.
Dear if any one else (a player), does not know this theme and agree to help this npc, and seen this theme that player can not do the quit in this quest, you have only the Quit from the beginning, without any warning !!! and a problem of many players is why they created only "Not Interested" option, why can not do a combat and killing her and gain a corruption point (this path must be at the colosseum too, to kill Octavia on that moment), the game title is the corruption of champion, its mean you do some of dark works, for example i want to kill all of Wsan characters :LOL:
 
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Neither there would be a bunch of literal trannies (like Hana).
Have you scene the Ryn controversy? At one point on the forum I think Alypia was saying "if guy says he's a girl then he's a girl" (I'm paraphrasing here) and any comments contrary to agreement was deleted. The lead Devs are Commies or at least act like it. Sexaulity is subjective, gender might be a combination of social conventions n natural inclinations but sex is unnegotiable by law of nature; you're either man (u have a dick) or woman (u have a pussy). Anything else is either a medical abnormality (like natural hermaphrodites), made up or in your head, and that's on you the individual.
 

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Have you scene the Ryn controversy? At one point on the forum I think Alypia was saying "if guy says he's a girl then he's a girl" (I'm paraphrasing here) and any comments contrary to agreement was deleted. The lead Devs are Commies or at least act like it. Sexaulity is subjective, gender might be a combination of social conventions n natural inclinations but sex is unnegotiable by law of nature; you're either man (u have a dick) or woman (u have a pussy). Anything else is either a medical abnormality (like natural hermaphrodites), made up or in your head, and that's on you the individual.
I used Hana as an example instead of Ryn, because last time I argued about Ryn - I got ganged up on, and treated as a villain. :KEK:
 

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with the gladiator futa who likely had more words spent on her - considering the arena is all one big prelude to that encounter - than the meeting with the royals
Why wouldn't a full character have more words involved than a single event?

Their actual content hasn't come out yet.


And that people quite literally voted with their wallet on what was getting pushed in CoC1.
Donation driven as well. The big decline was actually a result of...

Yeah, I remember all of that. I was around since the games was just a random text game without a real name on e621.

People donating just led to a repeated string of camp waifu characters and nothing else, not the really weird stuff people remember. It's a big part of why Fen was eager to be done with it and move away from that model. And of the course the various writers coming and going...

I've gone into more detail before, but many things about TiTs are a response to everything that went wrong in CoC, amd many things about CoC2 are a clear response to what went wrong in CoC and TiTs. And the next game they keep hinting at will be a response to mistakes in CoC2, etc.

Of course, there's been some things which were overcorrections too.

But eh. I like CoC2 way more than CoC1, so, it's all good.
 

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Have you scene the Ryn controversy? At one point on the forum I think Alypia was saying "if guy says he's a girl then he's a girl" (I'm paraphrasing here) and any comments contrary to agreement was deleted. The lead Devs are Commies or at least act like it. Sexaulity is subjective, gender might be a combination of social conventions n natural inclinations but sex is unnegotiable by law of nature; you're either man (u have a dick) or woman (u have a pussy). Anything else is either a medical abnormality (like natural hermaphrodites), made up or in your head, and that's on you the individual.
they had a code for textify in the output window:
Code:
[pc.mf\n|boy\n|girl\n]
[pc.mf\n|cock\n|vagina\n]
[pc.mf\n|he\n|she\n]
the pc.mf it means the PC are have male or female specific, for example if pc was male show the cock or was female show vagina, the "\n" is the enter keyboard character, so at the text print an enter, and the "|" it means the "or" if pc is male (show cock) or female (show vagina). of course the or command in the boolean variable is this "||" character.
 
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Doing so would require a sub Kaly route which I can't realistically afford to commission. As I've said many times people are free to commission it (or write it to contribute with standard proceedures) themselves, it would absolutely be possible within her story but by allowing the PC to say 'hey I want to bargain with X' you have to also write all of the content that follows. Right now the path follows the logic of 'the only winning move is to not play her game'.
Understandable, cashflow is always a limiting factor but Wsan could've framed it much better without taking control of the pc and leaving thes option. Evergreen propositioning Cait for info is a good example; you can out right reject the offer for Cait, leave Cait to do her whore's best, you can pay for her and involve her, or link it to another quest (recent addition which is telling tht someone outside the Dev team had to think of tht years later)

Man don't even get me started on Eubich, she has had zero Player centric Dom content in years (from what I've seen) but back to back updates on us having other ppl fuck her in addition to subbing for said ppl that fuck our girl in front of us. Get that cuck shit out my face
 
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