Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[EdgeOfShadow]

It's an rpg and since it's up to you, you should be the one decides that whetever MC gonna fuck everything that walks, or gonna stick to his morals, or will companions' relationships with MC gonna be open or not, I don't recall getting asked about that (getting asked about do i prefer an open or a close relationship, cait's request you to become a cuck do not counts). This is a porn game so MC should be a cuck is not a good arguement, really.
And even if though you go with some kind of harem route, it does not vindicate that dev's shoving ntr content down your throat too.
Btw any sexual intercourse your partner had without your approval/consent is NTR.

That's not how RPGs work lol, you can by default make decisions only for yourself and these decisions must follow your characters personality, you got spoiled too much with modern "RPG" garbage where the only thing that's left from normal RPG is stat card.

 

[BlacJak]

This argument is as old as time with the whole NTR, Cuckoldry, etc. Cait sucks, her writing sucks, everything that involves her serves to steal the spotlight away from the player character, every other fight you lose, the enemy goes well out of their way to tell the MC how well they're fucking her in front of you (especially the crazy horse), and she's a massive whore. She's a waste of writing and every scene that makes her even more of a whore will make you care less and less about finding her sister by the end of the game because she'll more than likely be dripping in the semen of every species in the game by then. Or whatever this game's main plot is.

 

[Deleted member 770309]

Ok i have to ask is plate armour in the game yet.

 

[Kroenen12]

Ok i have to ask is plate armour in the game yet.

not yet

 

[Deleted member 770309]

not yet

Damn.

 

[Naru100]

If theres a way to quantify it, how much content would you say is in the game so far?

 

[actualrealname]

If theres a way to quantify it, how much content would you say is in the game so far?

I would probably say around 7 or 8 metric contents.

 

[TheAshina]

This argument has been had before, it's not cuck content since the character isn't in a relationship with Cait. If the game gave you the option to romance Cait then you found her banging Brint behind your back then yeah that would be cuck content. This is more of an open relationship which is SOP for Savin. Also, it's not forced: you can choose not to have a relationship with Cait or you can choose not to take her with you.

That's the problem, there's no 3rd way to handle this situtation, it's either you watch cait fuck in front of you while in a relationship or not while in a relationship. It's forced to you in first half an hour of the game and then it keeps going if you want a healer in your party, and in this game going out without a party is not really an option.
Also "If the game gave you the option to romance Cait then you found her banging Brint behind your back" yeah that's literally one of the 2 "options".
But anyway Blacjak put the period to this topic i guess.

 

[xkmd]

If theres a way to quantify it, how much content would you say is in the game so far?

I'd say about 4 hours of content, depending on how much you bother to read, use walkthroughs, and/or grind.

in this game going out without a party is not really an option.

If you use save editor you can make your party irrelevant except for the parts where having a certain party member with you is a requirement to complete the quest, which to my knowledge Cait isn't one of them.

 

[Renonymous]

I will never understand what gives someone the motivation to come to a thread for a game that clearly wasn't written with them in mind and explain in unnecessary detail why their personal preferences don't match with the game, or to set a soapbox about what they think a game/story should be and why this isn't it.

Just put your best points into a review and move on. Fuck.

 

[TheAshina]

When i first messaged that thread it was solely for asking and learning about it rather than whining tho (maybe a bit). Things took a turn after a couple replies . I had no purpose to come and explain myself but still this thread about the game and nothing else so.. But I admit it's annoying that controversy took that long.

 

[actualrealname]

I will never understand what gives someone the motivation to come to a thread for a game that clearly wasn't written with them in mind and explain in unnecessary detail why their personal preferences don't match with the game, or to set a soapbox about what they think a game/story should be and why this isn't it.

I'll take arguments over which fetishes should or shouldn't be present over the 10000th "Update when" or "I managed to unzip a folder incorrectly, why is my game not working" any day.

Not like there's much else to discuss, unless we want to talk about who managed to create the character with the highest overall penis volume.

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

I'll take arguments over which fetishes should or shouldn't be present over the 10000th "Update when" or "I managed to unzip a folder incorrectly, why is my game not working" any day.

Not like there's much else to discuss, unless we want to talk about who managed to create the character with the highest overall penis volume.

Thanks dude, now i know what i will be doing today, sadly you can edit save so ppl would cheat.

 

[actualrealname]

Thanks dude, now i know what i will be doing today, sadly you can edit save so ppl would cheat.

True happiness doesn't come from the recognition of others, but from the unreasonably large penis you gained along the way.

Cheaters will never know the joy of an organically grown megadong.

 

[JenusKudo]

Btw.... since we get power 'tail whack' with tail transformation, is it also possible to add 'flight' power with wing transformation? Just like enemies used flight power in battle...it gives them higher evade rating against melee characters...I hope it's not too much and you guys can make use of all the transformation

 

[Kaftein]

I'm a little curious as to the specifics behind the general dislike/hate for The Observer. While my only real exposure to the CoC community is dropping in every now and then on this thread for the updates, I've seen a few screenshots around here relating to Observer and they all generally share the sentiment of "I feel my soul leaving my body every time I read his writing."

I understand why, to a degree; the way he writes is... a little difficult to describe. The general atmosphere feels sort of awkward, especially the narration. It also suffers pretty badly from dragging on for way too long in certain parts. I admit wholeheartedly to having my eyes glaze over in some of his scenes and just skimming, or reading halfway through and hitting skip outright, even if it's new content.

By and large, though, there's a few scenes that I do actually like, and some of the characters he's made are pleasant to interact with. The writing overall isn't the worst I've ever seen--it's at least consistent, and the grammar is pretty okay. My favorite author for the game is probably Wsan because vanilla is best fite me scrubs (dryads are great by the way, hoping they get fleshed out soon), but I haven't really seen anything in the game so far for Observer to get shit on as much as he does. At least not in my opinion.

So after a few months of drifting around, I'm curious; why is he disliked so much? Is it the writing? The person himself? Something else entirely, or is it even a combination of the above 3? Or is it just a result of having seen some of the more extremist members and incorrectly filing their beliefs away as a generally shared opinion?

 

[Deleted member 1368228]

Btw.... since we get power 'tail whack' with tail transformation, is it also possible to add 'flight' power with wing transformation? Just like enemies used flight power in battle...it gives them higher evade rating against melee characters...I hope it's not too much and you guys can make use of all the transformation

I mean, this isn't a bad idea, but why are you asking here? You'd be better served asking on Fen's forums.

First game was way better nothing like being a one man army and exploring the weird Demon land so much fun then going back to camp to the harem.

I genuinely cannot understand how anyone could say CoC1 is better than CoC2 considering all of the jank and unfinished content in that game. Not to mention the heavily inflated encounter rates for certain characters like Tamami while Izma or Ceraph have such low encounter rates that you almost never see them.

I tried to play the CoC Expanded mod recently and, I shit you not, it took me over 100 explorations for Ceraph's Stronghold to show up in the High Mountains after I beat Zetaz because I couldn't find anything other than Harpies, Sophie, or Basilisks.

 

[Deleted member 770309]

I mean, this isn't a bad idea, but why are you asking here? You'd be better served asking on Fen's forums.



I genuinely cannot understand how anyone could say CoC1 is better than CoC2 considering all of the jank and unfinished content in that game. Not to mention the heavily inflated encounter rates for certain characters like Tamami while Izma or Ceraph have such low encounter rates that you almost never see them.

I tried to play the CoC Expanded mod recently and, I shit you not, it took me over 100 explorations for Ceraph's Stronghold to show up in the High Mountains after I beat Zetaz because I couldn't find anything other than Harpies, Sophie, or Basilisks.

It helps to have high stats to discover stuff.

 

[Deleted member 770309]

I'd say about 4 hours of content, depending on how much you bother to read, use walkthroughs, and/or grind.


If you use save editor you can make your party irrelevant except for the parts where having a certain party member with you is a requirement to complete the quest, which to my knowledge Cait isn't one of them.

Cait is if you want to marry. You have to take her so damn annoying so you can not fully avoid her.

 

[Renonymous]

I'm a little curious as to the specifics behind the general dislike/hate for The Observer.

I think Observer has a bad habit of trying to tell 100% of the story. Engaging storytelling tells half the story and leaves blanks for the audience to fill. This allows us as the audience to personalize a story by adding elements from our own imagination, and makes it easier to visualize ourselves in the scene or to empathize with what characters are feeling. This also speeds up the pace of writing, because the audience doesn’t need a task analysis on common tasks like how a character made their peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Telling all of a story slows the pace and can actually take an audience further out of the scene despite the wealth of information they’re being provided.

I also think Observer’s narration is out of place. I’ll break down Gwyn’s tummy rubbing scene as an example.

She just looks so happy and content... ah.

Keeping one hand on Gwyn's shoulders, you reach out for her tail once more. She wags the fluffy white thing as she senses your touch on it, but you don't stop there, following its length up to its base and cupping the full, supple roundness of Gwyn's tush. The wolfess draws a sudden breath — perhaps it's surprised, perhaps it's not — at the feel of your palm smoothing down the soft fluff and fur of her ass. Plenty of fat, as befits a young lupine lady of breeding age... and muscle underneath there from hard work, too.

"I don't sit around that much for my butt to start hurting, but feel free to massage that too if you feel it'll help."

Oh, it'll help. It'll always help. A shiver runs down Gwyn's spine as you trace two fingers down its length, one from between her shoulderblades, the other from the base of her tail.

In this first paragraph, the narrator’s pausing to emote, “… ah”. Not only does this elongate the time spent in the moment, but it tries to provoke the audience to share a particular reaction. Did you “ah"? I didn’t ah.

In the second paragraph, the narrator’s speculating, “Perhaps [her breath is] surprised, perhaps [her breath is] not”. Again, the time spent on the thought of Gwyn’s surprise is elongated, and although Gwyn’s reaction is an important part to the action in the scene.

The third paragraph is great. It’s pure character.

The fourth paragraph begins, “Oh it’ll help. It’ll always help”, which is one It’ll always help more commentary than was needed to understand the implication. Again, we’re being forced to linger on a moment more than was necessary, and it’s revealing more about the author than the author’s characters.

A narration style and pace like this has its place, but I think it feels out of place in CoC2. For one, it doesn’t match the other authors’ submissions in voice, pace, etc. which causes it to stand out. I also think it’s better suited to a visual novel or something where the author has more control of the protagonist--or where the narrator is a character. There’s enough agency in CoC2 that it stands out when the narrator tries to take control of every step of the protagonist’s inner monologue. And that's why I think word economy and narrative voice are the reasons why I think Observer tends to match badly with audiences.