Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.33] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[destroyerofassholes]

Wow, that is... unfathomably immature. Like actually, wow. I knew there was always something off about the writing in CoC 2 especially with the lore-induced stupidity of it all but this is somehow worse than I thought. And where the hell does Tobs even come from if he's this upset over it that he headcanoned the first game's PC to just be corrupt from the get go? Don't promise to make content you don't want to make.

Though, with the Tobs part, the whole discomfort over Kinu makes sense as well since I never truly understood how the choices we made throughout her childhood even remotely translates to how she turns out after release. Oh, I want her to follow more intellectual pursuits? Congrats, she's a skimpy courtesan. Be more independent? Farmer. Not like Tobs has much ground to stand on considering his entire kitsune content might as well some first year AP class to Japanese culture and he just went fedora-tipping Redditor all over it.

Tobs and Savin both are dudes with issues. A lot of the Fen writing cadre are dudes with issues.

And when you give them an ounce of perceived power, well...

 

[Raf-Raf]

Noice, more people are having insane rants like me too. (Justified too at that~~~)
Need more of 'em because these morons won't listen unless their whole house is burning down.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Noice, more people are having insane rants like me too. (Justified too at that~~~)
Need more of 'em because these morons won't listen unless their whole house is burning down.

My dude, this is a 400 page thread. We spent like the first 250 pages of it (a good year and a half I think) endlessly bitching about Tobs and the others. We'd have crazy arguments, mods would delete it, then we would argue again. Devs don't care. We don't pay them and thus they don't care.

And Fen's forums are nothing but sycophants so yeah, none of this will ever change, they are swimming in money while treating everybody like shit. There's dozens of screenshots of the dev team being actual assholes to people daring to say anything. Their house clearly isn't gonna burn any time soon if nothing has changed still. They're being paid like crazy.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Kind of sad that Kinu comes with all that unneeded baggage since I do enjoy her for what she is. Especially Hime incarnation. Not saying that her content is all shine but a daughter that you can interact with is something that pleases my parental side. But, man, knowing that content you enjoy comes partly at expense of others kind sours the taste. Like consuming a Nestle product.

I don't think it should sour anything for you tbh. If you like the content that's all it matters.

Beyond the whole "I'm a fox genocide advocate" thing, I just find it hard to separate the artist and the art. That's really what kinda breaks the deal for me with the content that I should like.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Oh well, at least I'll be thankful for the blessed people who are modding this piece of shit.

 

[Masturbacon]

Spoiler: the whole futa argument/problem (For CoC2 & TiTS)

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I had wondered this whenever I read the update about how you could "dedick" Eryka, as I always thought there should be at least one NPC who doesn't want her penis, or who regrets it because maybe it's not what she thought it'd be. Eryka is like, the first NPC ever from CoC 1 > TiTs > CoC 2 that gave you the option to remove the commonly abnormally large penises all these chicks have, but yet, there's at least a few characters who are written to have desires to grow a penis and wish for you to assist them. Penny and Paige, in TiTs, are two which come to mind.

I'd personally like to see more characters who are outspokenly anti-transformation. Or just women who are perfectly fine with not having a penis since they already have a vagina, because while there's plenty of characters without a dick and we can assume they don't want one, it's easy enough for someone to commission or even write one of those futanari expansions and then suddenly, this character who was introduced to be dick-less is now interested in transforming herself. Some characters need to have convictions that they stick to rather than always accepting an idea that completely changes who they are physically. Too many characters between TiTs and CoC 2 are just too similar to each other in this regard. The writers seem to collectively agree to the idea of "these games are all about player transformation so all of our NPCs should be happy about transforming themselves as well." Just because something is socially acceptable and legal doesn't mean everybody agrees with it or wants to partake. The overall character writing is very plain. There's no real opposition to certain themes in-game, so there's no complications or dilemmas for us to resolve other than "evil demon lady is trying to take over the world" which is the hentai game equivalent to the evil dragon antagonist in all the movies and books.

Maybe even a group of villains, as part of a side questline or something, who abduct (just generic, probably nobody we know) futanari girls and feed them a pill which magically removes their transformations just as easily as they grew them. I mean, Eryka was one character forced into growing a penis so why not have a cult whose motivations are to "purge" what they consider to be abominations? I know that the lead writers for CoC 2 would hate for their precious dick girls to lose their penises because then they can't fantasize about fellating them anymore, but it could allow for them to dismantle an oppressive regime since players could also challenge this group of villains if they wanted to. In a universe like CoC 2, I don't see why there aren't more evil organizations hellbent on destruction.

CoC 2 and the sci-fi theme of TiTs are really the perfect settings for stories like this.

 

[volkov]

Trekking through the Undermountain segment is suffering. So many imps and kobolds fucked and fought.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Free money though~~~

 

[Cricco]

people on this forum dont like the azzy and lia content?? tbh the fact its like 50 cait scenes and one of our earliest companions atuigia still does not have an outfit is annoying we get the pink haired fuck priest entire backstory but we do not know a lick about the legit seemingly overqualified dullahan runemaster who lives next door. she has the credentials to be the barons sole fucking guard but i know more about caits mom than her, most recent seen for her was like brint cucking us while we held her head or something iirc

Tbh i don't recruit azzy because of the shit she's got going with Brienne. It's not written by wsan and it shows. Reads the same as the cucky shit she's got going with lia.

 

[M0nte]

It also feels kind of inconsistent with how Brienne was presented. Her sexual escapades were always shown as us allowing/telling her to have threesomes with us and other girls. So her just jumping on Azzy without our involvement just does not sit well with me. Like I get that since most people that are into Brienne are straight/maybe bisexual guys so they see girl on girl (vagina) action as fun time. Not as dangerous as your girl fooling around with someone that has a dick. But from my perspective , Brienne just going at Azy and us just stumbling on them feels like it kind of, well not cucky, just inconstant. Like I would understand it we told Brienne to seek Azy since we do not have time for her, but it happening in reverse order (where we have to tell her off) just does not sit well with me for number of reasons. Not a deal breaker I just find it a weird dichotomy between Wsan and SKoW Brienne.

 

[Archaon11111]

people on this forum dont like the azzy and lia content??

Not just this forum, Azzy is nearly at the bottom of the patron popularity poll (2nd last) for a reason. Her companion and post quest interaction is just boring to deal with.

 

[Grey75]

There's a hotfix in the latest patch to fix the new broken items.

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Would you mind telling me how to setup the console and where to find the commands (a list or something)?

To open console commands, open coc2 in any browser then either right-click and go to inspect or press ctrl-shift-i, once you do that merely go to the tab that says console and that's it.
Thankfully they didn't think to hard about the naming so all you have to do is type in whatever character you want to look at and a list of most of their scenes should pop up. For example, if you don't want spam Lusamine's gossip just to see her NTR scene with Cait merely type in LusamineCaitNtr() then press enter and then the scene should show up.

 

[JTakiyaa]

Tobs and Savin both are dudes with issues. A lot of the Fen writing cadre are dudes with issues.

And when you give them an ounce of perceived power, well...

And here I thought no power fantasy is allowed lol

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Its still on the shitcan list just as much as all other kinds of incest(and with that a possible reason for partnership termination).
Considering Fenoxo wanted to remove all kinds of incest "for the sake of his friends"(ie the people he pays to write)and subsequently even did so in Tits(even Shade seems to have gotten reflagged,despite how narratively integral it was for the character),its hilarious he backpeddaled on that.
Maybe overracting to absolutely nothing at the time(this was well past Patreon´s last purge wave from what I remember,not that I have ever seen them give a single fuck about text only games in the first place)and nuking multiple of your character projects as well as parts of your main story wasnt all that smart after all,huh Fen?


Saying Savin got lazy doesnt even begin to cut it.
The New Texas xpac and Reaha rewrite have been in the works for how many years now?


Uh uh,tell us Papa Mogwai!
Dont think Tobs even was on my radar so Im rather interested in hearing more.

Looking back,its impressive how many years I was able to tolerate the teams entire "holier than thou"-up their own rectum mentality.
Their constant "dont like it?write it yourself"-nonsense should have been a deadringer but you know...Im naive.

I'm not sure if anybody familiar with Fall of Eden but it all started with a the Burrows. The big bad is a despot who brainwashed his wife, turning her into a broodmare for him and their sons, constantly partakes in incest with his many children, mutates one of his children to fight and rape you all with the grand scheme of breeding an army to conquer the world.
Sounds like he should really get his comeuppance right, well not to his writer. Once you depose him, you got four option, kill him, exile him, imprison him, or experiment on him. Despite all he's done, his wife still loves him and will shoot down every suggestion you make until you pick the one she wants (imprison him). We make fun of all the ultimatum in this game, but at least you can actually do those choices. Naturally this ticks everyone off because why would you write her asking us what to do with him if you weren't even going to listen to us in the first place. In a move that would make Savin team proud, the writer gets so uppity from the backlash that he was going to retaliate by writing a game over/death for every wrong choice you could make in the conclusion just to make the player's choices matter. To Tobs credit, he talked him out of it but he got a learning experience from this. He figured if you don't want the players to get any choice in the content than why should you even try to pretend. That's why his content railroads you so hard. Strang because the Tobs of today would have definitely encouraged the guy if it meant spiting his critics

 

[RenH]

Noice, more people are having insane rants like me too. (Justified too at that~~~)
Need more of 'em because these morons won't listen unless their whole house is burning down.

Eh, you're not wrong. At least reprieve exists in the form of the OG CoC and all its mods where I have so far been having fun playing. The writing maybe of lower tier than this game quality-wise but I infinitely appreciate the lack of railroading which lends to the player having their own narrative that they can come up with.

And no, this isn't nOstAlgiA glAssEs because CoC 2 was actually the first game of its genre I've ever played and it wasn't until months later that I even played the OG game.

 

[sinfool]

you need to hear keros offert.
Looking the flag:
Miko_pre_req should be the only thing you need to start the chain event (1 is correrct).
Miko_pre_ann you skip the komari event so she needs to be already pregnant (1 is correct).
The timer the value is very high, you should try 80000

oh thank you for the info, but when she already giving birth does the event going to be continue normaly?
because on mine she already giving birth but after I done couple of times with her somehow it doesn't had any hint she gonna be in pregnant state again. It does have the option of hursing hj and fox milking and her talk option and the dialogue on the sex also changed talking about knocking her up again or something and more too + her bust potrait also changed that she lactated milk as well but even after I done it multiple times with her, she's not pregnant at all. is it maybe gonna take a while for impregnating her? or maybe there's a value that I need to check on again? thanks again btw

 

[volkov]

Curse you Patreon! Hopefully one day we will be able to clam slam Kinu.

 

[EmptyHusk97]

oh thank you for the info, but when she already giving birth does the event going to be continue normaly?
because on mine she already giving birth but after I done couple of times with her somehow it doesn't had any hint she gonna be in pregnant state again. It does have the option of hursing hj and fox milking and her talk option and the dialogue on the sex also changed talking about knocking her up again or something and more too + her bust potrait also changed that she lactated milk as well but even after I done it multiple times with her, she's not pregnant at all. is it maybe gonna take a while for impregnating her? or maybe there's a value that I need to check on again? thanks again btw

Miko can get pregnant only once.

 

[Daekas]

Anyone knows what they are paid to write this stuff?
Maybe just ask one of the better writers to write stuff the community actually desires for the same/better paycheck?

I still can't wrap my mind about the fact that writers like savin actually despise big parts of their community and even try to 'cockblock' them for no apparent reason other than 'my butt hurtie'- BUT STILL ASK FOR MONEY FROM SAID PEOPLE!
That's not how things should work. I mean.. do they not have Girlfriends or actual friends, telling them that behaving like this get's you nowhere in the end? I mean in the end, i couldn't care less about this but.. They could earn so much more respect, love and, most importantly, money!