Skandranon

Well-Known Member
Nov 28, 2016
1,457
3,310
COC2 would've been better if it were written as a power fantasy. Agree or disagree?
Eh, depends on how much of a power fantasy you think it already is.

Personally, power fantasies are turn offs.
Puts me in mind of isekais with their bland self-insert protags. Yuck.
 

Amnelis

Newbie
Nov 24, 2020
90
368
I'm a fan of Brint since he checks a lot of boxes for me. As much as I enjoy dickish doms I apreciate him being more sweet & caring since he's the only legit male character you can have a relationship with. I personally enjoy his content with other characters, particularly the Elthara scenes & eventual pregnancy. I like the cuckquean aspect of it, especially as it's not written as being humiliating for the MC, he's just highly sexual as most people in this setting are & have his own sex life outside of being in a relationship with them. The same goes for the MC, but at the end of the day they're each other's "main" relationship. It suits his whole caring & friendly stud persona.

I do wish it was a option though to define your relationship, if it's important for you that he doesn't sleep around, etc. I would even go as far as having the option to chose to be monogamous yourself w/ the option of asking for your partner to do the same or to give them a hall pass. It would be more of a kink thing, like you could confess to not keeping the promise & get some special dom/sub scene depending on the dynamic you picked. So no dramatic & hurtful reactions or anything, more like "I knew you couldn't keep it in your pants" with some spanking or whatever.

The lore & setting are a mess. They tried to make this world more "friendly" than CoC1 yet there's still the same dynamic of sex after losing in combat. Then there's the whole temple prostitution thing where everyone is ok with it. That only works assuming essentially anything that isn't enthusiastic consent is cnc in this world, so for Kasyrra's mission of sluttifying the world to make sense the whole thing falls apart. Either everyone is already sex positive so what's the point or our character is constantly coming across rapists yet no one thinks anything of it so what different does it make to have a few more. She's barely doing anything either way. They could have worked with the infertile thing, that she essentially wants to make it so that no one can birth anything other than imps & the world's population would be stuck at whoever was alive during her realizing her plan.

There's something that is a bit of a personal pet peeve, but the magic is all over the place. Seemingly any random witch can change people's gentials and just in our party there's someone that can mind control others & turn them into tiny statues but absolutely no one can beat Kas. If we had any corruption content then magic could be directly tied to it, it would be both lore & gameplay feature. But they just carried over everything from the first game with the intent of "improving" them without giving it a second thought.
 

Meatshield236

Newbie
Feb 10, 2020
85
820
COC2 would've been better if it were written as a power fantasy. Agree or disagree?
It already is. Kinda. "A world where there are tons of beautiful women out there who are more than happy to fuck you" is a power fantasy. There is the whole "get fucked if you're defeated" thing, but that's also a power fantasy too. The biggest consequence for failure is... more sex. One of the first things you see in the game is a guard who obviously lost a fight and got filled with eggs (or was it honey? I can never remember with the bee people). And it's treated as an embarrassing inconvenience rather than a war crime. So bad stuff can kinda happen but nothing permanent and nothing that isn't treated as terrible.

But it never really seems to realize it's a power fantasy. This ties into the worldbuilding and the whole "sex is so casual you can fuck most people after talking to them for 10 minutes or doing a side quest," because everyone acts as though they aren't a part of a ridiculously sex-hungry world until it's time for the pants to come off. So you're treated as 'just another dude' in story, but in reality you've been fucking everything that looks at you funny. It's really strange to hear the writers talk about how they hate power fantasies, but they're literally writing their own personal sex stories where you're UltraChad, Impregnation of Bitches, desired by everything with a reproductive system.
 

hater45

Member
Mar 7, 2017
131
339
With the porn, it just clashes so hard because what your player character can't do, the enemy victor can do. Weird I have to respect the preference of my defeated foe but they are free to ignore mine? They want to do a sort of serious world but it just feels off. Cait is a hoe yes, but when you look into her religion it is pretty fucked up and your character just randomly accepts that like it is normal.
Eh, depends on how much of a power fantasy you think it already is.

Personally, power fantasies are turn offs.
Puts me in mind of isekais with their bland self-insert protags. Yuck.
You obviously never played a good power fantasy game. WOTR gets my dick hard like no other if you go angel path and make even a goddess seethe because you do her job better.
 

icecreamman99

Member
Mar 1, 2018
175
376
WOTR gets my dick hard like no other if you go angel path and make even a goddess seethe because you do her job better.
the game where the goddess is mad that your getting shit done and becoming and angel/god with demonic powers
that bitch, when the last time she sent down help 1000 years ago? she need to get the fuck outta here with that
 

Meblue

Newbie
Jul 11, 2021
72
339
With the porn, it just clashes so hard because what your player character can't do, the enemy victor can do. Weird I have to respect the preference of my defeated foe but they are free to ignore mine? They want to do a sort of serious world but it just feels off. Cait is a hoe yes, but when you look into her religion it is pretty fucked up and your character just randomly accepts that like it is normal.

You obviously never played a good power fantasy game. WOTR gets my dick hard like no other if you go angel path and make even a goddess seethe because you do her job better.
Now i'm curious, what is This WOTR you speak of?
 

Skandranon

Well-Known Member
Nov 28, 2016
1,457
3,310
You obviously never played a good power fantasy game. WOTR gets my dick hard like no other if you go angel path and make even a goddess seethe because you do her job better.
I was mainly talking about porn games.

Also, wasn't big on the first one, dunno if I'll ever get to the second.
 

icecreamman99

Member
Mar 1, 2018
175
376
omg thanks, I played that game so long ago (or a similar game)
it was a pretty good game ill have to get it tomorrow
ive been looking for a new rpg to play
i would be careful and get it on sale, while this new game has no where as many bugs as the frist game [which had like 6 repackaging due to balence and bugs] and was lunched pretty well. an update might snap it in half

also game is min max heavy so don't put the difficulty to high when you don't know what to do
 
  • Like
Reactions: Evizzy89

Archaon11111

Engaged Member
Aug 14, 2020
2,073
3,373
COC2 would've been better if it were written as a power fantasy. Agree or disagree?
I already consider it in its current state to be a power fantasy, yes there are instances where the player has no control but so far you got harems, you get to fuck gods/godlike plus the whole sex on combat victory mechanic. Not to mention the majority of characters fall in love with you in an instant like Kas.
 

FurrBat

Member
May 8, 2019
124
346
If what Skandranon said about writers or the lack of them is true then I have so many questions.

Like where the fuck all of the patreon+steam money is going then ? Is Savin just pocketing half of it and the rest goes to coders and the permanent not!writers on staff or what ?

I know sun would sooner extinguish than Savin would be transparent with what he does to their income but a man can dream.

If I understood it right then there is not going to be more Companions as Savin doesnt want to bother, and with Berwyn more or less dead, male companions fans can just get fucked because the last companion is going to be a futa Paladin?

Im not even gonna mention Quint as a male companion, his fate in my save was "did you hear a scream? nah, must have been the wind" ;v.
 

Skandranon

Well-Known Member
Nov 28, 2016
1,457
3,310
If what Skandranon said about writers or the lack of them is true then I have so many questions.

Like where the fuck all of the patreon+steam money is going then ? Is Savin just pocketing half of it and the rest goes to coders and the permanent not!writers on staff or what ?
We talked about the split awhile back, there just...isn't as much money as everyone seems to think.

There's 7 or 8 people on staff? And the Patreon pulls in 32k a month?

32000x12=384000.
384000 divided by 7 people, is like...50k. That's not a huge amount, and thats before taxes.

Now, that's not counting Subscribestar or Steam money, but its also not counting the several authors that work on commission, or whatever business expenses, or Patreon's cut (5-12%). So around 50k per person is probably a decent ballpark. They aren't rolling in money.

If I understood it right then there is not going to be more Companions as Savin doesnt want to bother, and with Berwyn more or less dead, male companions fans can just get fucked because the last companion is going to be a futa Paladin?
What? Futa paladin?

The last companion is going to be Vivienne, the forest witch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: barsa

Archaon11111

Engaged Member
Aug 14, 2020
2,073
3,373
If I understood it right then there is not going to be more Companions as Savin doesnt want to bother, and with Berwyn more or less dead, male companions fans can just get fucked because the last companion is going to be a futa Paladin?
Last companion is Viviane not Eryka
 

FurrBat

Member
May 8, 2019
124
346
What? Futa paladin?
There was some pics of a buff paladin with bulge that was probably a futa, so I might be mistaken.
Still if vivienne is a female companion thats a punch in the gut for male lovers.
In regards to patreon money we dont know shit about business expenses as thats kept in house so we can disregard that, maybe the cash is not much to anyone living in America but does everyone in the dev team live there ? Eh its a bit irrelevant as nobody would pay someone less if they lived in a cheaper area.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Cricco

FurrBat

Member
May 8, 2019
124
346
Back to companions we have:
Agnimitra: fem/herm
Arona : herm
Atugia : fem
Azyrran : fem
R.i.p Berwyn : male/fem/herm (including for completion sake)
Brienne : fem
Brint : male
Cait : fem
Etheryn : herm without vagoo (if im not wrong)
Kiyoko : fem
Quintillus: male

so far the gender ratio is : male/fem/herm of 3/6/2
after clapping Berwyn and including Vivian we got 2/7/2
where we can change another companion to herm making that 2/6/3
Im not even talking about the content those male companions have as that would just be fucking sad.
 

Archaon11111

Engaged Member
Aug 14, 2020
2,073
3,373
Back to companions we have:
Agnimitra: fem/herm
Arona : herm
Atugia : fem
Azyrran : fem
R.i.p Berwyn : male/fem/herm (including for completion sake)
Brienne : fem
Brint : male
Cait : fem
Etheryn : herm without vagoo (if im not wrong)
Kiyoko : fem
Quintillus: male

so far the gender ratio is : male/fem/herm of 3/6/2
after clapping Berwyn and including Vivian we got 2/7/2
where we can change another companion to herm making that 2/6/3
Im not even talking about the content those male companions have as that would just be fucking sad.
I mean why invest in a companion that nobody will use? The absolute majority of players won't care or interact with a male companion. Its the same in TITS, very few people want to invest in a character for such a small audience.
 
2.80 star(s) 117 Votes