Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.15] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Rilvik]

The sun will go super nova and engulf the earth before the main story actually progresses

I thought repopulating the world was the main quest

 

[IHC]

Up to what point is the story in the game considered good? Don't get me wrong but I love this game and I just want to spare myself from the immense disappointment that everyone talks about since I'm pretty slow on all of it.

 

[Alterism]

Up to what point is the story in the game considered good? Don't get me wrong but I love this game and I just want to spare myself from the immense disappointment that everyone talks about since I'm pretty slow on all of it.

If you like it, you like it. No need to color your own perception through others experiences.

 

[Trapitalism101]

That's not Ember, that's Helia. Slutty salamander barbarian who lost her dad is definitely Helia.
Meanwhile Ember isn't even born until Champ stumbles upon her egg.

Helia, Ember, and Kiha all kind of blend together in my memory as the fire gals. With Kiha being the worst.

 

[Kalkrion]

I'm just going to assume this is a result of working on porn for too long as this game has less buildup in relationships than the average Ren'py visual novel starring Chad Mcthundercock.

I resent this as a person that enjoys using Chad Thundercock for any first time playthrough of a porn game. Mostly because I find it funny to look back on those saves after I start optimizing the game choices.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Up to what point is the story in the game considered good? Don't get me wrong but I love this game and I just want to spare myself from the immense disappointment that everyone talks about since I'm pretty slow on all of it.

It depends on who's playing it, even more so if you ignore the things you don't have to take part on. To me, it usually started to go downwards at around the point where the Bee girl asks you to wingman her with the lesbian knight, which is one of the first instances where your character's sort of an accessory to things.

But basically most of the times you go through the effort of engaging in something from that point on, your reward will usually be fairly disappointing.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Helia, Ember, and Kiha all kind of blend together in my memory as the fire gals. With Kiha being the worst.

Now hold on there a minute! Like the second time I have seen some Kiha slander. I'm guessing it's because she acts like a bitch towards us or something? I mean I'll fully admit my bias. Breaking through that cold bitch exterior, to get to the soft lovey interior. Fun times, though I will say I don't think they did the aftermath of getting her to come around. All that well.

I blame Morrigan from DA:O for unlocking that within me. Even managed to edge out Leliana just a bit. Hm.... I seem to have a real thing for uphill battles

 

[Jbuster]

Net wise it helps immersion in my opinion.

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But heck, I'm going to continue anyways as it segues into my point.

I think the more striking thing is that you had to check, likely under the appearance menu, to get any visual feedback of your character. In TiTS you may balloon into a plastic porn star.

However, through the substantially better use of the parser you'll know what you are and what configurations you have in nearly everything you do. Even something as simple scene against a horny bug reflects:

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And speaking of accidents

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Given how romances have all but been completely fucking scoured out of TiTS development as well I'm just going to assume this is a result of working on porn for too long as this game has less buildup in relationships than the average Ren'py visual novel starring Chad Mcthundercock.


That was cancelled.
Yes I know.

"Corruption" of champions II

Wsan made a post about how he wanted to do it so much and blah blah blah. Which, unfortunately bounced off of me when you consider the entire last year has been bouncing between 4 different futadommes. With a 5th on the way.

It does help a lot in the sense that while both games are a never ending orgy, one of them let you feel your character is something else that a living fuck toy, despite being that, also, it's supposed to be the family tradition, to mutate beyond reason to fuck everything that catch your fancy

COC2 instead sometimes gives you the impression that the champion is somewhat what you created but most of the time you'll have your regular npc open with "open cloth" and whatever that follows

Maybe, maybe the futadoms mommas are there exactly that way because they overwrite any necessity of a better interaction. Just slap giant tits and a dong all over a dozen of character and give them as main motivation to fuck everything in the ass, and slightly change the flavor, but not too much

I really like TITS, having whole planets to visit is fun, I like several members of the crew and a lot of times, it does feel like a real adventure. You being The Steele is cool, teaming up with Jack/Jill in furry sex hell Mad Max is fun, helping the same reds that were selling the golden as slaves put down a rebellion is interesting enough, so yeah, cool game

Which makes everything else that was left behind hurt a lot more, just like COC2, and there aren't enough futadoms to hide the fact that they are lagging

TITS had one of the best (and my favorite) futadom mom in that shark woman Azra, somehow, they managed to evoke the charm of a mature, intelligent woman in a recolored grown up backyardigan with a dick and it was great, then, it wasn't

Savin and Feno really need to focus their teams into completing an specific task instead of jumping from hyper fetish to hyper fetish constantly, sometimes it feels as if they were punishing the players for caring and man, they are writing smut, like 90% of the appeal is in the anticipation before engaging, seriously, all that effort for a long ass paragraph describing how your megadong exploded inside the irradiated space slug?, all that effort should go into building the scene first, that way they would limit the effort of going through several analogies of an orgasm in order to deliver

I'm talking from ignorance tho, I'm just a shitty fanfic writer and I do that as a hobby but man, as I see it, it would work wonders to edge your audience before delivering, and you can have both as it was at the beginning, instant sex maniacs jumping your bones in each planet and having fun doing so and the character that wants you to wine & dance them into an erotic cosmic adventure, even Zapp Brannigan understood the need for romance before bedding his space maidens

He sung to them, slowly, in the shadows

I could say the same about COC2, despite everything I really like the game, I might complain about Cait endlessly but I like that failed cute cat gf. She's my champion's ride or die girl, my Spunkachu if you will (I'm convinced she's operating under baby duck rules, as in, she formed a deep connection to the champion because she wasn't asked to bend over and take it before trying to save her sister)

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Lol. Lmao. I don't think I've ever in my life seen a dev team so fucking pathetic and dysfunctional. Just casually going:

"Yeah... Actually, that large chunk of the game we've been hyping up? It's axed now. Yup. Sucks ain't it? Well, off I go to do jackshit and maybe write a few chunks of my next character. I think you'll all love her. She's a futa dom with a focus on three- whoops! Don't wanna spoil too much, haha . Subscribe to the patreon!"

I mean, Christ. At least Concorde and Dustborn devs were able to release an actual game that felt finished. I've never seen a game constantly scrap major parts of it like I do Fenoxo games. Because usually when that happens, that's a very bad sign. I mean, I'm not surprised at all. Really, I expected this kind of shit. It's happened before. But I mean, the nerve of this bastard to just casually drop this. I guess what really pisses me off is how he's acting like it's out of his hands. HEY SAVIN, YOU USELESS SACK OF SHIT! YOU'RE THE GODDAMN LEAD DEV! YOU CALL THE SHOTS!

I really want to see their private chats. The stuff that's not public. There's got to be tons of juicy shit in there. Just to see what sort of decision making (Or lack thereof) is going on behind the scenes. I know they've said time and time again that no one on the team is into corruption, but it's like if that's the case... Why are they still doing it for individual characters?

Drifa for example. Like just make her goth outfit an alternate set of clothes. It's not like her "corrupt" personality is so far removed from her normal one. Just fucking scrap corruption as a mechanic at this point, because it basically means nothing and it's never going to get better.

I want someone to tell me, what does corruption do in this game that tangibly affects things? Besides locking you out of content, of course. I can only think of making that Elf baker lady slightly slutty (And I don't think you even need to be corrupt to do that, doing it just gives you corruption), and turning the goocat purple. I'm certain there's a few more things. Maybe some dialouge is changed I think.

And you know, going back to patreon, did Savin or anyone inform them about corrupt Khorminos being scrapped? I don't remember if the main Fenoxo blog announced it. If not, then he's quite literally scamming people who are under the assumption that this content is still being added to the game.



It's my drunkard analogy all over again. That's why I said that you either die a hero or live to see yourself become a villian with Savin and Co. Wsan's fully part of the inner circle now. When he said how the polls mean nothing because the writers write what they want, that was it for him. It's why I keep all the writers a good pole distance away from me praising them or getting hyped.

I remember back on /cocg/, how B was /ourguy/, he was saving Berwyn, he was making him for the players, for /you/. Berwyn is going to be fully cutomizable, with pregnancy included. And you get his sexy teacher Maitha too! Can you believe it!?

Then we all knew what happened next. And like clockwork, Wsan became /ourguy/. He was going to save Khorminos. A whole city of hot cow babes just for the player, for /you/. And you'll get Brienne's sister and mother too! You're going to be able to marry all three! Can you believe it!?

I Feel thr Buyer's Remorse through the screen

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

If you like it, you like it. No need to color your own perception through others experiences.

 

[Yeppers34]

I Feel thr Buyer's Remorse through the screen View attachment 4613260

I can relate to them, i was one of the schmucks giving those dipshits five bucks a month for the last two years only for them to slap a fresh turd in my hand and say enjoy

 

[Trapitalism101]

Now hold on there a minute! Like the second time I have seen some Kiha slander. I'm guessing it's because she acts like a bitch towards us or something? I mean I'll fully admit my bias. Breaking through that cold bitch exterior, to get to the soft lovey interior. Fun times, though I will say I don't think they did the aftermath of getting her to come around. All that well.

I blame Morrigan from DA:O for unlocking that within me. Even managed to edge out Leliana just a bit. Hm.... I seem to have a real thing for uphill battles

It's the aftermath/payoff. You deal with a delulu dragon girl screaming 'I will never be deafeateddddddd" and then getting mollywhomped by you 20 times, and after a while I just got tired of dealing with her. She's better than most of the CoC2 cast, but I do wish there was a bit more payoff, or let her have her own Helia style quest. She's a good girl, but she's just so tiring

 

[YouShallNotLol]

It's the aftermath/payoff. You deal with a delulu dragon girl screaming 'I will never be deafeateddddddd" and then getting mollywhomped by you 20 times, and after a while I just got tired of dealing with her. She's better than most of the CoC2 cast, but I do wish there was a bit more payoff, or let her have her own Helia style quest. She's a good girl, but she's just so tiring

You forgot that after getting beaten by Champ a dozen or so times, she goes and charges some demon stronghold (can't be assed to remember which one) on her own. Expectedly she gets gangraped, which you find out after the fact when you see her covered in cum and crying.

Savin wrote that plotline by the way. Originally Fen intended Kiha simply as a strong enemy encounter.

 

[MoneyMan181]

You forgot that after getting beaten by Champ a dozen or so times, she goes and charges some demon stronghold (can't be assed to remember which one) on her own. Expectedly she gets gangraped, which you find out after the fact when you see her covered in cum and crying.

Savin wrote that plotline by the way. Originally Fen intended Kiha simply as a strong enemy encounter.

Honestly I think that's a fine, and is a good character beat. It's in line with her personality, her pride can't accept that she's weaker than you and tries to prove to herself that she's hot shit, only to bite off more than she can chew. It's good stuff, and the consequences of her actions fit the world. I'm not even entirely sure if it's Savin's brand of cuck shit since it's non-con and she obviously feels bad for it, the opposite of what he usually writes.

 

[ExcitedTengu]

Honestly I think that's a fine, and is a good character beat. It's in line with her personality, her pride can't accept that she's weaker than you and tries to prove to herself that she's hot shit, only to bite off more than she can chew. It's good stuff, and the consequences of her actions fit the world. I'm not even entirely sure if it's Savin's brand of cuck shit since it's non-con and she obviously feels bad for it, the opposite of what he usually writes.

Yeah that one honestly felt like a thing that made sense according to her character.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

It's the aftermath/payoff. You deal with a delulu dragon girl screaming 'I will never be deafeateddddddd" and then getting mollywhomped by you 20 times, and after a while I just got tired of dealing with her. She's better than most of the CoC2 cast, but I do wish there was a bit more payoff, or let her have her own Helia style quest. She's a good girl, but she's just so tiring

The mere fact she can be defeated and a writer won't simply turn around and go "no, you barely beat her, get a hold of your ego" puts her above a bunch of CoC2's cast on mere satisfaction alone. It also prevents the situation the sequel has of a myriad of characters being "totally" capable of solving the issue, beating the big bad demon and the cultists' plots but just "not feeling like doing it right now".

Honestly I think that's a fine, and is a good character beat. It's in line with her personality, her pride can't accept that she's weaker than you and tries to prove to herself that she's hot shit, only to bite off more than she can chew. It's good stuff, and the consequences of her actions fit the world. I'm not even entirely sure if it's Savin's brand of cuck shit since it's non-con and she obviously feels bad for it, the opposite of what he usually writes.

Might've been the start of the descent. Current Savin would've written the whole scene and expected people to like it.

 

[ExcitedTengu]

Might've been the start of the descent. Current Savin would've written the whole scene and expected people to like it.

Current Savin would have us relive it in a flashback and she'd have thoughts about how the twelfth demon dick was better than the champ's.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Current Savin would have us relive it in a flashback and she'd have thoughts about how the twelfth demon dick was better than the champ's.

Might've been the start of the descent. Current Savin would've written the whole scene and expected people to like it.

That was Fen's fetish at the time. The infamous Urta and Amily "threesome setup". Urta literally cucking Champ and You being portrayed as the cruel villain for not liking it.

In some sense, Savin took up that torch after Fen dropped it.

Edit: People shit on Takahiro, but in CoC1 Urta was literally the same. Drunk loser who went around fucking all the girls and cucking Champ.

 

[MarvintheBee]

Current Savin would have us relive it in a flashback and she'd have thoughts about how the twelfth demon dick was better than the champ's.

Eventhough I love the Savin slander, we should keep it kinda grounded in reality.
Savin isn't into cucking (atleast as far as I know), he is just into sluts and his perfect polygamous world. Everyone would fuck anyone in his vision.

Your character isn't a slut and player focused (and has no dick)? Savin probably doesn't like them.
A reason for why he refuses to write for Brienne to this day.

Of course this leads to some stupid instances where even characters, who were virgins just a minute ago or socially chaste or characters you had to get to know first, suddenly fuck with other characters. Hello Atugia.

Tldr. Savin loves sluts, futadommes and polygamy.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Eventhough I love the Savin slander, we should keep it kinda grounded in reality.
Savin isn't into cucking (atleast as far as I know), he is just into sluts and his perfect polygamous world. Everyone would fuck anyone in his vision.

Your character isn't a slut and player focused (and has no dick)? Savin probably doesn't like them.
A reason for why he refuses to write for Brienne to this day.

Of course this leads to some stupid instances where even characters, who were virgins just a minute ago or socially chaste or characters you had to get to know first, suddenly fuck with other characters. Hello Atugia.

Tldr. Savin loves sluts, futadommes and polygamy.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.