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Honestly I would love for an option to enslave the demons while roleplaying as a good champion, only because it would add a little bit of grey there (don't wanna kill them because killing bad, but also don't wanna let them do evil), the champion being allowed to do something not so good against bad people, a way to keep them from corrupting others that works because demons can be subjugated through violence, but I guess enslaving others feels too evil and corrupt so that's a big no no for the corruption game
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Hold that thought, bub. No thinking allowed.
Now, might I interest you in providing me with free labor? No guarantees your work will be accepted but I'll pretend to be wholly supportive in your potential waste of time and effort depending on whether I like the fetish or not.
Design document is pretty simple:
- No corruption because that's too much work
That's about it. Have fun.
 

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Not gonna lie I too got confused when reading those descriptions, like my first thought was standing fuck where you hold her arms and ankles high up and fold her like a mating press.
That sounds like front facing Nelson but at least I can place it somewhere. Or an altered stand and carry.
 

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Honestly I would love for an option to enslave the demons while roleplaying as a good champion, only because it would add a little bit of grey there (don't wanna kill them because killing bad, but also don't wanna let them do evil), the champion being allowed to do something not so good against bad people, a way to keep them from corrupting others that works because demons can be subjugated through violence, but I guess enslaving others feels too evil and corrupt so that's a big no no for the corruption game
Depth and flaws implies character, bro. We don’t do that here. Go back in the cuck chair, you futa-cock to clean.
 
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If I could reach through screen....I'd sell u to the Cartel and watch as some ugly cartel bastard prolapse your ass.
How dare you threaten me with a good time.

Degenerate education. What's next, cowgirl counts as riding sport?
It doesn't? I'm starting to think the southern US education failed me. Or the sex ed at least did.

I don't know the in game reason for my allies to surrender when I die, like, there's a manual option right there so I could go on while passed out, right?, it's so stupid...
That mechanic has always pissed me off. The second my character has a mild fainting spell the companions enter the Yamcha death pose. It's even more egregious when up against an enemy that will clearly kill or inflict a bad end. No idea why Savin pushed it through when his own dev team even said it was a bad idea. Probably played too many Atlas JRPGs that month and couldn't stop getting the lead killed every fight and thought it was the perfect "allowance" to let people feel important or add combat "depth".

Remember that samurai anime about "killing bad" that everyone loved and was just super famous?, I wonder what happened with that :HideThePain:
He got his hard drives checked and nothing happened. (sadlol.png)

Go back in the cuck chair
At this point we deserve the cuck throne for all our suffering.
 

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At least with Brint -> Brienne you could argue that it was a cursed artifact that did it rather than the PC actively and deliberately doing it like with pushing Azzy and Liaden into the bimbo honey.

Now, beating a pack of mangy corrupted wolfmen into submission and then marching them single file against their will into a pool that turns them all into mangy corrupted wolfwomen and making them your personal bitches is in the same vein and is significantly worse but I don't see anyone getting up in arms about it.
There's an answer to that, you see
Their horny=good
Your horny=bad
Because they are dudes, attacked you first, and didn't have any cute gay ship pairings. Basically the less they know about them, the less they care. It's just nameless npcs to them. They really are crying hyprocites. Atleast I'm a self-aware hypocrite.
Either way, sometimes when you see people standing on a very dumb hill to die on, the only wise choice is to walk past them. The option to bimbofy them is exactly that. An option. And if one doesn't like it, it really shouldn't be difficult to just say "good for you" to people who enjoy this.
I can hear the stupid reason for the change now "its like litteraly conversion therapy, a lesbian character being transformed against her will is just icky morally." To which i say what about the dozens upon dozens of instances of the player character losing and being forced out of their comfort zone, what about their consent? Where's their insurance?Also yeah its icky morally, its a evil CHOICE. Ooooh there's that scary word the devs hate. Choice.
See, that's the funny thing about their syncopated argument. The more you think about it, the more it looks like what it obviously is. Asskissing.

It's one of those moments that showcase one interesting consequence of the years and years of purging "bad actors" - Savco managed to get a proper audience that is perfectly fine sucking up to them to the point of taking these absurd stances that get increasingly sillier.

It's also a smaller audience than a game with the title they managed to sneak with deserves, but that's not an issue when Savin can keep doing goofy shit with the project with minimal fuss inside of their little comfort box.

Additionally, it's why I don't feel bad about the fans of this game per se. The card carrying fans that suck up to Savco are getting exactly what they deserve out of this, this gimped up product.

At least most titles are clear on what they're about. I knew what I was getting into going into Futadom World. Apparently Corruption of Champions 2 is Futadom World-lite in a fantasy setting.

Liaden isn't even interesting. Her only trait unrelated to another character is her vocation and that is tertiary to her being Azzy's GF.
It's actually fairly fitting to the character for the defense of her not being able to get bimbofied being tied to some stance about "anti-lesbian therapy" and not, you know, the death of her personality as a character coming as a consequence.

They don't care about Liaden, they care about the "lesbian pollen" ship. Not that there was anything to care about there to begin with, but it's quite telling that's the focus of the argument. They could at least pretend to give a shit about the character aside of what she and the bee do on their spare time, just a thought.

Real talk Savin was such an ass and he didn't need to be.
Was? Is.

But they are cowards who want everything to be safe or edge without any real meaning or impact( Like Gweyr, for example. A perfectly good waste of a possible corruption option. You can even get her to go back to hawkethrone because no-one really cares anymore, except for a named npc). Like this game has half-assed so much that it's nonsensical. They don't want you to corrupt others and feel it is wrong and cruel, but have enemies and npcs treat you like sex object more than a living being. Not to mention how brutal and cruel they can be to you. Corruption is being done off-screen to not trigger (I'm joking, it's clear they are being lazy and would just use this as a excuse)
I'd say it's more self-serving than cowardice. Kinda like the whole "oh, we put it on the bounties and nobody bit", which also came on the heels of having an abrasive cunt doing his best to get on the way of anything good.

If something has the excuse of being too risqué, then Savin will claim it as the reason why they're not doing something... when they were never gonna do something, because he already didn't want it anyway.

See savin lurkers,we are not just hating on the game for hatred sake. We are given constructive critism and offering alternatives. And yes you could say:"If it bothers you so much why don't you write it for the game?" Well, for me and others to do that we have to be sure it would get approved or have a decent chance of being approved, but sence we know the track record of that...eeeeeh. Not to mention we aren't going to be paid to put in content that should have been in the game in the first place. I don't want to rack by brain making interesting characters only for them to be changed in ways I don't like or care for.
I find it hard to want to work on writing for a game whose lead I find incredibly unsatisfying to work with. If it was just an ass that's still aiming to get something good done for fans/consumers and just lacks the people skills for it, I wouldn't mind it as much.

Being self-serving on top of it is the fucking bell ringer for me.

Honestly I would love for an option to enslave the demons while roleplaying as a good champion, only because it would add a little bit of grey there (don't wanna kill them because killing bad, but also don't wanna let them do evil), the champion being allowed to do something not so good against bad people, a way to keep them from corrupting others that works because demons can be subjugated through violence, but I guess enslaving others feels too evil and corrupt so that's a big no no for the corruption game
You could genuinely get a fun game out of that. Person gets chance to change things in a shitty world run by demons, gets faced with a big point of contention, has a dilemma on what they're doing and gets multiple ways to solve it.
 
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the death of her personality as a character coming as a consequence.
One must have a personality to use the death_of_personality tag on Rule34.

lol true. I was just referencing that one specific time. Savin remains an ass regardless he was just being a particular ass about the Berwyn thing.

Fuck I even unintentionally defended Savin because someone had a really shitty take about secrets that reminded me about a friend's situation irl. That thread got nuked from orbit.

"lesbian pollen" ship
I see you discovered the next step in the Gay Agenda Trade-Marked Sappho All Rights Reserved . We hadn't intended to accelerate the plan but recent world geopolitical fuckery made it necessary. The Lesbian Pollen is the ultimate hydro-aerisol bioweapon. Soon Lesbian Pollen will be released into the atmosphere, ensuring complete global saturation. Combined with the chemicals in the water making the frogs gay, the world and all life on it will become the ultimate yuri manga.

I'd say it's more self-serving than cowardice. Kinda like the whole "oh, we put it on the bounties and nobody bit", which also came on the heels of having an abrasive cunt doing his best to get on the way of anything good.
Damn if only the bounties were more available for the general public, or the review process was better, or if Savin didn't shoot down the stuff he couldn't jork it to.

The obvious counter is "well clearly he didn't want to be flooded with low effort submissions created solely to get money and clog the review process. Also he clearly intended the bounties to be for people he trusted as writers." Which would normally be valid points but counterargument, Savin. To the first point the review process is clearly in need of its on review to better deal with any submissions. Additionally it shouldn't be taboo for people to want to be paid for their work. Passion is nice but it alone doesn't put food on the table and Savin is raking it in. To point two about trusted writers, he brought in Bubblelord and has kept Tobs around. Savin is clearly not an arbiter of quality and even has his own shitty writings.

The presence of Savin negates most regular and reasonable arguments in favor of the dev team.
 

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See, that's the funny thing about their syncopated argument. The more you think about it, the more it looks like what it obviously is. Asskissing.

It's one of those moments that showcase one interesting consequence of the years and years of purging "bad actors" - Savco managed to get a proper audience that is perfectly fine sucking up to them to the point of taking these absurd stances that get increasingly sillier.

It's also a smaller audience than a game with the title they managed to sneak with deserves, but that's not an issue when Savin can keep doing goofy shit with the project with minimal fuss inside of their little comfort box.

Additionally, it's why I don't feel bad about the fans of this game per se. The card carrying fans that suck up to Savco are getting exactly what they deserve out of this, this gimped up product.



It's actually fairly fitting to the character for the defense of her not being able to get bimbofied being tied to some stance about "anti-lesbian therapy" and not, you know, the death of her personality as a character coming as a consequence.

They don't care about Liaden, they care about the "lesbian pollen" ship. Not that there was anything to care about there to begin with, but it's quite telling that's the focus of the argument. They could at least pretend to give a shit about the character aside of what she and the bee do on their spare time, just a thought.


I'd say it's more self-serving than cowardice. Kinda like the whole "oh, we put it on the bounties and nobody bit", which also came on the heels of having an abrasive cunt doing his best to get on the way of anything good.

If something has the excuse of being too risqué, then Savin will claim it as the reason why they're not doing something... when they were never gonna do something, because he already didn't want it anyway.



I find it hard to want to work on writing for a game whose lead I find incredibly unsatisfying to work with. If it was just an ass that's still aiming to get something good done for fans/consumers and just lacks the people skills for it, I wouldn't mind it as much.

Being self-serving on top of it is the fucking bell ringer for me.
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I'd tell you it must be good to be a sycophant drone but after observing for a while I've noticed that they're genuinely getting nothing out of this deal.
It's not like they vote on the content that gets in or anything. They're in it purely for the love of the game. It's genuinely jarring how they either immediately fold and conform to the "correct" opinion or just passively voice their mild displeasure following it up with some quick brown-nosing just so they're not pinned as the outlier.
Not that I blame them or anything. Just using this site is grounds to be labeled as "Worth less than an amoeba".
 
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That mechanic has always pissed me off. The second my character has a mild fainting spell the companions enter the Yamcha death pose. It's even more egregious when up against an enemy that will clearly kill or inflict a bad end. No idea why Savin pushed it through when his own dev team even said it was a bad idea. Probably played too many Atlas JRPGs that month and couldn't stop getting the lead killed every fight and thought it was the perfect "allowance" to let people feel important or add combat "depth".
The fact that FOE, for as abandoned as that game is (RIP, that game had so much potential) didn't have your companions drop like flies iirc the moment the PC does, says clearly that they don't even need to fucking have combat end like that either. The system IS doable even back then. It's just annoying and lazy to not emulate it.

"Ohhh but it's the team's leader going down it's demoralizing " or whatever the hell reasoning for it is, it still makes no goddamn sense for the rest to be as battered as you if they're still standing by the time you go down. Not even DnD, the thing this game's battle system weakly takes from works like this.
 
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A part of me kinda just wants to take every time the world refused to actually be dark and use that to change the tone for a mod to do the opposite. Except at this rate it'll turn as grimdark as Warhammer if we do that.
 

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Hold that thought, bub. No thinking allowed.
Now, might I interest you in providing me with free labor? No guarantees your work will be accepted but I'll pretend to be wholly supportive in your potential waste of time and effort depending on whether I like the fetish or not.
Design document is pretty simple:
- No corruption because that's too much work
That's about it. Have fun.
Was gonna reply something dumb like "how about I make a futa slaver, with addictive cum!", but then I remembered their own futamaniac from the forums, karakara, went overdrive and got clowned for it

There's no way to win

Depth and flaws implies character, bro. We don’t do that here. Go back in the cuck chair, you futa-cock to clean.
At the end he was free of the cuck chair, in his mind, there was no Brint
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See, that's the funny thing about their syncopated argument. The more you think about it, the more it looks like what it obviously is. Asskissing.

It's one of those moments that showcase one interesting consequence of the years and years of purging "bad actors" - Savco managed to get a proper audience that is perfectly fine sucking up to them to the point of taking these absurd stances that get increasingly sillier.

It's also a smaller audience than a game with the title they managed to sneak with deserves, but that's not an issue when Savin can keep doing goofy shit with the project with minimal fuss inside of their little comfort box.

Additionally, it's why I don't feel bad about the fans of this game per se. The card carrying fans that suck up to Savco are getting exactly what they deserve out of this, this gimped up product.



It's actually fairly fitting to the character for the defense of her not being able to get bimbofied being tied to some stance about "anti-lesbian therapy" and not, you know, the death of her personality as a character coming as a consequence.

They don't care about Liaden, they care about the "lesbian pollen" ship. Not that there was anything to care about there to begin with, but it's quite telling that's the focus of the argument. They could at least pretend to give a shit about the character aside of what she and the bee do on their spare time, just a thought.



Was? Is.



I'd say it's more self-serving than cowardice. Kinda like the whole "oh, we put it on the bounties and nobody bit", which also came on the heels of having an abrasive cunt doing his best to get on the way of anything good.

If something has the excuse of being too risqué, then Savin will claim it as the reason why they're not doing something... when they were never gonna do something, because he already didn't want it anyway.



I find it hard to want to work on writing for a game whose lead I find incredibly unsatisfying to work with. If it was just an ass that's still aiming to get something good done for fans/consumers and just lacks the people skills for it, I wouldn't mind it as much.

Being self-serving on top of it is the fucking bell ringer for me.



You could genuinely get a fun game out of that. Person gets chance to change things in a shitty world run by demons, gets faced with a big point of contention, has a dilemma on what they're doing and gets multiple ways to solve it.
It would be amazing, killing the demons?, good, they are demons and beyond any help, but if you wanted to spare them they could become an issue later, so what do you do?, enslave them, brand them with magic?, risk your well being to indulge and keep them from attacking others?, or maybe do nothing because once you defeat them they are not your problem, there's plenty of ways to deal with the same issue

Even Adoveria punished your evil ways by removing companions in a not so great attempt to teach you your actions do have consequences

About the Liaden thing, I really wish they would've made her and Azzy a couple since the beginning with little to no input from the player, so they could fuck off later and please the shippers

You know who would've been a great character to introduce us to the hive?, the prince. Dude is royal enough to be above common foes and would have a better chance to understand that something is wrong within the hive, I think with a good combo of pride and a bratty attitude that becomes more endearing through the quest, he would've been far more tolerable, even the part of being polyamory could have a better development as both the pc and the prince are busy people with their own lives that do happen to have a good relationship, when they can see each other. Everything clear and safe since the beginning, he's there to fuck those bimbos and the champion fucks everything that crawls/swim/walks/flies
 

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I see you discovered the next step in the Gay Agenda Trade-Marked Sappho All Rights Reserved . We hadn't intended to accelerate the plan but recent world geopolitical fuckery made it necessary. The Lesbian Pollen is the ultimate hydro-aerisol bioweapon. Soon Lesbian Pollen will be released into the atmosphere, ensuring complete global saturation. Combined with the chemicals in the water making the frogs gay, the world and all life on it will become the ultimate yuri manga.
I actually took the term from OSW Review. Love the channel, much as the lads have some terrible takes from time to time.

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I'd tell you it must be good to be a sycophant drone but after observing for a while I've noticed that they're genuinely getting nothing out of this deal.
It's not like they vote on the content that gets in or anything. They're in it purely for the love of the game. It's genuinely jarring how they either immediately fold and conform to the "correct" opinion or just passively voice their mild displeasure following it up with some quick brown-nosing just so they're not pinned as the outlier.
Not that I blame them or anything. Just using this site is grounds to be labeled as "Worth less than an amoeba".
It's social pressure, I think. They're basically stuck (by their own volition, mind) to Savin's circlejerk colony and the only way they presume they'll be able to stick around is if they toe the company line.

See, we have disagreements over stuff on the regular. There isn't someone going around and banning people over some personal preference, that's how proper dialogue should be.

It's mostly why I don't find much interest on whatever stuff they call us. At the end of the day, we post, shitpost and move on. They, meanwhile, get this place where they're treading a fine line and can get cut off if they step out of it for whatever reason.

Think the dynamic is a bit screwed up, but to each their own.

About the Liaden thing, I really wish they would've made her and Azzy a couple since the beginning with little to no input from the player, so they could fuck off later and please the shippers

You know who would've been a great character to introduce us to the hive?, the prince. Dude is royal enough to be above common foes and would have a better chance to understand that something is wrong within the hive, I think with a good combo of pride and a bratty attitude that becomes more endearing through the quest, he would've been far more tolerable, even the part of being polyamory could have a better development as both the pc and the prince are busy people with their own lives that do happen to have a good relationship, when they can see each other.
Had the parties involved not wet their panties in a hurry over lesbian porn and let the thing cook, it would've gone way better. Hell, maybe then the random lesbian knight would've obtained a much needed personality.

That said, having the Prince partner up with the champ while the knights end up having fallen to corruption would've been pretty clever and somewhat subversive. Like say, you save them and that's great, but they're already down for each other so they're not interested in the PC.

Would also give us the hilarious sight of the random knight getting chewed out at the church for being so crap at her job.
 
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The fact that FOE, for as abandoned as that game is (RIP, that game had so much potential) didn't have your companions drop like flies iirc the moment the PC does, says clearly that they don't even need to fucking have combat end like that either. The system IS doable even back then. It's just annoying and lazy to not emulate it.
It's definitely up there on the "wtf were they thinking" scale. Especially since the framework exists in game already with the manual party control option even before factoring in FOE and how several came from that to CoC2. It's such a weird and mechanic that doesn't mesh well with the narrative of fights. And they never addressed it when they had the chance when doing the combat rework. IDK if Savin ever explained why he thinks it's a good idea. Like I said many pages ago, the most we got was Tobs confirming that it was a Savin decision.

"Ohhh but it's the team's leader going down it's demoralizing " or whatever the hell reasoning for it is, it still makes no goddamn sense for the rest to be as battered as you if they're still standing by the time you go down. Not even DnD, the thing this game's battle system weakly takes from works like this.
Emphasis on weakly at this point. Demoralization doesn't inflict physical harm last I checked. If we get knocked down by a rampaging ghost boar then my full health party should still be able to fight or pull me out. They can't even claim it's a case of the companions surrendering to save their lives anymore with all the bad ends introduced lately that amount to straight up dying. It's honestly the most baffling design decision. Like as many gripes as I've given I can understand how we got to those decisions. This one is just weird.

The only reason I can think of was it was a preemptive spite decision in regards to complaints about the anti-power fantasy angle of the game that Savin could point to to say we're totally important. But that's really just me guessing.

About the Liaden thing, I really wish they would've made her and Azzy a couple since the beginning with little to no input from the player, so they could fuck off later and please the shippers
Like they already met and were chilling as a couple trying to figure out how to save the hive and needed help? Honestly that might've been better even if the complaints about Liaden being underdeveloped would still probably apply. At least then their relationship would be clear from the outset.

You know who would've been a great character to introduce us to the hive?, the prince. Dude is royal enough to be above common foes and would have a better chance to understand that something is wrong within the hive, I think with a good combo of pride and a bratty attitude that becomes more endearing through the quest, he would've been far more tolerable, even the part of being polyamory could have a better development as both the pc and the prince are busy people with their own lives that do happen to have a good relationship, when they can see each other. Everything clear and safe since the beginning, he's there to fuck those bimbos and the champion fucks everything that crawls/swim/walks/flies
Only problem is Nyze is Bubble's character and that might've given him more say in the quest's writing at the time.

They, meanwhile, get this place where they're treading a fine line and can get cut off if they step out of it for whatever reason.

Think the dynamic is a bit screwed up, but to each their own.
It was pretty slow when I finally left. No real discussion to be had without Tobs, Savin, or Alypia showing up to get extremely defensive and/or condescending so nothing to really discuss.
 

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How dare you threaten me with a good time.
Knew you'd like it. :BootyTime: Date, time, and pick-up location. I got bills to pay and you got stretching to do. I hear they roam in gangs, so....use your prep-time.


It doesn't? I'm starting to think the southern US education failed me. Or the sex ed at least did.
I guess when they say everything’s bigger in Texas, they're not talking about IQ.
 

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I'd tell you it must be good to be a sycophant drone but after observing for a while I've noticed that they're genuinely getting nothing out of this deal.
It's not like they vote on the content that gets in or anything. They're in it purely for the love of the game. It's genuinely jarring how they either immediately fold and conform to the "correct" opinion or just passively voice their mild displeasure following it up with some quick brown-nosing just so they're not pinned as the outlier.
Not that I blame them or anything. Just using this site is grounds to be labeled as "Worth less than an amoeba".
Fall in line or gtfo meat. There ain't no changing in this house
 

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Was just checking the code behind Olivia's correction score and it seems certain things cap and uncap it for example if you opt to ignore Olivia during the throne event her correction score's cap is set to zero. Each event has one choice that'll stone wall any further progress you could make in taming Olivia.
I'll quickly list off what each option and color code them like this stops you from being able to progress any further, No change, increases her cap, and increases her cap and increases her correction score.

  • Best Seat In The House (Triggers in your throne room if you had sex with Olivia)
    Shoo
    Ignore
    Correction
  • What's a few electrum amongst friends? (Triggers in your vault if Oliva's correction score is 4)
    Allow
    Reprimand
    Correct
    • Correct
    • Refnir/Public Use
    • Leave
  • Trouble In Paradise (Triggers when you go to Oliva if Drifa is at the Wayfort and Olivia's correction score is 9)
    Leave Off
    Verbally
    Sex
  • Who Comes A Knocking (Triggers when you go to Oliva if Olivia's correction score is 14)
    Leave
    Vouch
    Sex
  • Brunch Date(Triggers when you go to Oliva if Olivia's correction score is 19)
    • Switch the Glasses?(If you have the bimbo personality you don't get the option to switch the glasses)
      Yes
      No
    • Was the potion a dud?
      Yes
      No
  • Collar Or Not To Collar(Triggers when you go to Oliva if Olivia's correction score is 20)
    Yes
    No

Another thing that apparently can cap Olivia's correction score is Drifa, if she isn't at the Wayfort apparently Olivia's Correction score caps out at 8
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Thank But did event have CD or what time? I cant trigger in vault , I have check OLIVIA_CORRECTION = 4
 

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When I'm so far from you Texas, all I can do is cry
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It's definitely up there on the "wtf were they thinking" scale. Especially since the framework exists in game already with the manual party control option even before factoring in FOE and how several came from that to CoC2. It's such a weird and mechanic that doesn't mesh well with the narrative of fights. And they never addressed it when they had the chance when doing the combat rework. IDK if Savin ever explained why he thinks it's a good idea. Like I said many pages ago, the most we got was Tobs confirming that it was a Savin decision.


Emphasis on weakly at this point. Demoralization doesn't inflict physical harm last I checked. If we get knocked down by a rampaging ghost boar then my full health party should still be able to fight or pull me out. They can't even claim it's a case of the companions surrendering to save their lives anymore with all the bad ends introduced lately that amount to straight up dying. It's honestly the most baffling design decision. Like as many gripes as I've given I can understand how we got to those decisions. This one is just weird.

The only reason I can think of was it was a preemptive spite decision in regards to complaints about the anti-power fantasy angle of the game that Savin could point to to say we're totally important. But that's really just me guessing.


Like they already met and were chilling as a couple trying to figure out how to save the hive and needed help? Honestly that might've been better even if the complaints about Liaden being underdeveloped would still probably apply. At least then their relationship would be clear from the outset.


Only problem is Nyze is Bubble's character and that might've given him more say in the quest's writing at the time.


It was pretty slow when I finally left. No real discussion to be had without Tobs, Savin, or Alypia showing up to get extremely defensive and/or condescending so nothing to really discuss.
That would work wonders to fix a lot of things, they already met, Azzy knows that Liaden is looking for her dad and after learning about the problems in the forest she decided to leave the town earlier and that's when they meet each other, and since then they have been protecting each other from Azzy's corrupted sisters

That way there's already chemistry between them and you can give Liaden a little bit of personality, maybe she's more bold than Sanders and because of that she tends to ignore dangerous stuff, it could be that both being lumians could bond over their faith, don't know, there's a lot that can be done

The prince was pretty barebones in terms of content, I hope crab can fix him and expand him, before I expand him :BootyTime:
 
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That would work wonders to fix a lot of things, they already met, Azzy knows that Liaden is looking for her dad and after learning about the problems in the forest she decided to leave the town earlier and that's when they meet each other, and since then they have been protecting each other from Azzy's corrupted sisters

That way there's already chemistry between them and you can give Liaden a little bit of personality, maybe she's more bold than Sanders and because of that she tends to ignore dangerous stuff, it could be that both being lumians could bond over their faith, don't know, there's a lot that can be done
It's almost like they had a concept that was nearly there and needed just a little more revision to work but they gave up partway through. Skow could've still had her soul mates thing and it would've at least been conveyed up front.

The prince was pretty barebones in terms of content, I hope crab can fix him and expand him, before I expand him :BootyTime:
What if Crab's expansion lets you expand Nyze?
 
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