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Sacred_Lamb

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I think Ben was super cute
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You see, now, you've evoked two wolves in me.The Ben10 fan of me wants to burn you at the stake
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The trap lover of me wants to plow those greenfields.
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Why must u torture me so

Gentlemen... My masculine ego is far too fragile to consider myself even remotely homosexual but...
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I am experiencing some downright heretical thoughts right now...
Moira's art is one of the very few things actually good about this game.
I gotta say this hard decision but this philosophy as never failed me: LOOKS FEMALE ENOUGH.
 

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Gentlemen... My masculine ego is far too fragile to consider myself even remotely homosexual but...
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I am experiencing some downright heretical thoughts right now...
Moira's art is one of the very few things actually good about this game.

Bit unfortunate to hear about the dunce mentioning the mod in the forums but it was honestly kind of inevitable the moment it was shared publicly. The boys will find a way or another come the exodus.
Just make sure the tips don't touch and whisper in their ear no homo before every 5 thrust, every 30 minutes. You must keep count or it doesn't work. You have a 5 bussy a day limit before nothing you do can save you and I gotta hit you with a

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Godspeed on your adventure.
 

Sacred_Lamb

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Mostly, it's so his game and work can't be held hostage by a writer who gets upset, moves on, fails to show up for years, or passes away or any number of reasons. He can either remove the character, pass it to another writer (or open it up to community writers), or continue their story or part as needed. He is not claiming the property, only its use in his project, which I feel is reasonable and expected. And I think it's usually been shown that if the creator is available, he always give them final word on people submitting content or adding scenes before he himself makes a call.
That's the most reasonable part of this business that he's made, honestly. Because that does make sense to me, what happened with Breeding season and the incompleteness of Coc1 is testament that shit will happen.
 

icecreamman99

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Not saying anything else is wrong or incorrect, but this I feel needs to be stated. Savin does not claim ownership of submitted work. You are and would always be the creator and he does not restrict or prevent you from using that creation anywhere else, like in your own or future works (this is probably not the case with things he commissions or pays someone to do). He does get full control of it in his game, however. So if George Lucas submitted Luke Skywalker as an NPC, he would always have ownership and could make a movie with Luke Skywalker or a comic. If later on, he puts Luke in a story where the princess he was kissing turns out to be his sister, Savin does not have to make that canon or happen in CoC 2.

Mostly, it's so his game and work can't be held hostage by a writer who gets upset, moves on, fails to show up for years, or passes away or any number of reasons. He can either remove the character, pass it to another writer (or open it up to community writers), or continue their story or part as needed. He is not claiming the property, only its use in his project, which I feel is reasonable and expected. And I think it's usually been shown that if the creator is available, he always give them final word on people submitting content or adding scenes before he himself makes a call.
that's the norm for writing businesses or they just do a contractual TOS when what ever content is is being processed into the game or upon submission

thats basic shit, entry level stuff
 

HereBe123

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At the risk of sounding contrarian, I kind of disagree. TiTS doesn't focus on the corruption aspect and the TF's are framed as cosmetic so it works in a more biological cyberpunk sorta way. I don't know if that makes sense but it was the best way I could think of to frame it. The problem with CoC2 isn't so much that there are starting races, but more that there's nothing done with them being corrupted. Since we're not playing as outsiders a blue elf lady or swole cowgirl isn't weird. The problem imo is that they don't really present corrupt forms of the races outside of "lol get horns". It's more the lack of creativity, dead horse I know, that hinders it instead of the inclusion of starting races. Also the lack of forced of forced TFs, but I'll begrudgingly concede I understand why that was diminished since customization is such a big part.


In regards to TiTS, this wasn't really Savin or Fen but there was this character called Embry. They wanted to portray a trans person's struggles but because the game setting is so focused on transformation they had to create a whole species that is just immune to most TF's. Imo it felt forced and not genuine, like the struggle was being romanticized, but that's just me. She wasn't well received as a result but she's an admittedly harmless footnote you can easily ignore.


I'll concede everyone's experiences are different and I don't have the context to these anecdotes, but I and the transwomen I know would never call ourselves the first three unless as an inside joke with friends. But I don't know the transwomen you do and what their humor is. I mostly joke about having the bigger dick despite it being nerfed to -3 inches but someone else may find that distasteful. My friends would use Futa probably though if they knew/were willing to admit the knew what it was. Given the history of and current connotation of the word shemale as well as Savin's fervent use and defense of it, I refuse to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's more the context around Savin and a bunch of stuff that adds up than any one thing.

And I could just be sensitive and jaded given current stuff that I won't mention at the risk of getting way off topic.


Honestly, I think we can all cross the aisle and agree on that together.


I min-maxed to unlock the Social Justice Eldritch Knight Subclass. When combined with the Transfemme bloodline it unlocks Eldritch Miku Miku Beam as a cantrip. It does carry the downside of making me randomly info dump lore about my favorite games no one else cares about but it deals psychic damage so it's not all bad.


Truly the worst sin. They are the worst of the OP OCs. They're so bad I wonder how they, or most of Bubble's stuff, got greenlit.


Cause he's gotta save face after getting such poor reception that he's lost an echo chamber's structural integrity. Also he made the mistake of assuming everyone was like him and didn't want the corruption content and wasn't emotionally prepared to be told he done goofed. I would fucking love to see what he's saying in the dev discord, especially since he's kinda hiding again since his defense got lukewarm support.


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Maybe changing my PFP to a yapper was a good idea, cause I be yappin and TOBSin from time to time.
" I min-maxed to unlock the Social Justice Eldritch Knight Subclass. When combined with the Transfemme bloodline it unlocks Eldritch Miku Miku Beam as a cantrip. It does carry the downside of making me randomly info dump lore about my favorite games no one else cares about but it deals psychic damage so it's not all bad. "

That got a laugh out of me, madame. From what I read about Embry, seems to me that she and her struggles were just-half assed at worst, but than again the fact her writer disappeared and now a transwoman is in charge of writing her is ultimate Uno Reversal. And if you want, you can PM me and we can talk more there if you so wish, you seem chill to talk too.
 
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I'd like to preface, again, that I'm not trying to be antagonistic. But this preface includes a shiny new point. I never submitted anything and so my interactions on the forum and with the team were from a consumer aspect only. Anyway I add this because tone doesn't come across well over text sometimes.

That's on me for not elaborating. While I don't think he's fully handled that aspect well I do understand the logic of that part. My issue is the part where he establishes that it's for if people vanish or "throw a fit". And with someone as historically thin skinned as Savin, It carries the risk of him getting salty over a take and kicking someone out and assuming control of their work. While the main one I know of is Hugs, and they both came out looking bad, it still leaves a very potentially exploitative taste. I think that conveys it. I'm not sure. Basically my negative view of Savin and my own anecdotal evidence lead me to classify it as a negative even though I do understand that initial part of in case someone vanishes. My biggest issue is these points:
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Basically he's saying "you're giving me your stuff for free and I can profit off of and merchandise them and do what I want with them and have final say." Now so far to my knowledge that hasn't happened and I get from a legal standpoint they're covering themselves, but it's the spirit and implication of the matter combined with Savin's overall behavior that give me issue.

My probably incoherent rambling's point is that while this is not as bad as other stuff and I definitely understand some parts, It combined with other things we hate on Savin for and his online persona just makes me see it as a net bad thing. Again that's on me for not being clearer though.

It's all fun and games until Berwynne becomes a marketable plushie. I don't know how to spell Berwhine's name and my slow ass laptop discourages me from checking the wiki. No I will not close my tabs I need all 46 of them open.

And remember folks, femboys are actually less gay than fucking a woman. Real science performed by real men in lab coats has proven this.
 

Tsubuhaza

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Know the best part? Duke Nukem Forever took 14 years. Things can get so much worse.

As for the character ownership bit, I do wonder if (and kind of wish it happened one day) people would ever take it to court. Can y'all just imagine a judge that went through all of the required procedures to actively get to run as a representative of justice, the most pristine feature given to us by Athena (not the wrestler, the Greek deity), only to have to go through the entire judgement of who owns a fucking cowgirl with a ten foot long dick that the player character stumbles upon because Savin had this weird wish for it to be in the game during one inspired night?
 
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SatanHGG

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Traps are high tier gay. If you're a man, that's a man, you're gay. If you're a woman, that looks like a woman, you're gay. If you're something in between, that's something in between, you're gay.
But gay also means happy, so everyone wins. :)
 
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ExcitedTengu

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Know the best part? Duke Nukem Forever took 14 years. Things can get so much worse.

As for the character ownership bit, I do wonder if (and kind of wish it happened one day) people would ever take it to court. Can y'all just imagine a judge that went through all of the required procedures to actively get to run as a representative of justice, the most pristine feature given to us by Athena (not the wrestler, the Greek deity), only to have to go through the entire judgement of who owns a fucking cowgirl with a ten foot long dick that the player character stumbles upon because Savin had this weird wish for it to be in the game during one inspired night?
It'd be the second coming of the omegaverse lawsuit.
 
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