Yes and no.
The vulperines. But now that I'm reading this codex I'm not certain if they've always been this way the way the manticores have been. I'm going to be honest. For this race alone my eyes kind of glaze over. I'd normally include the Kitsune too in the original statement. And I'm sure they've probably always been this way too. But, my mind can't handle thinking too much about Tobs.
And the answer, unless Savin writes chaotic demon factions into existence, is no.
The mushroom dungeon writes a new reason into existence. Ignore all the previous foreshadowing, it was actually corrupt wyld trees that were killing the old wyld gods.
It's all a shitshow. My 6 year old niece could make a better setting than Savarra while playing with her toys in an afternoon.The vulperines. But now that I'm reading this codex I'm not certain if they've always been this way the way the manticores have been. I'm going to be honest. For this race alone my eyes kind of glaze over. I'd normally include the Kitsune too in the original statement. And I'm sure they've probably always been this way too. But, my mind can't handle thinking too much about Tobs.
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Anyways
The point isn't that "Kas is breeding an army."
It was and remains
And the answer, unless Savin writes chaotic demon factions into existence, is no.
Corrupt Centaur village is as good of an indicator as any that you can have a village sized location and the people there won't spread their taint anywhere else
Bleh.
This involuntarily has had me thinking more about the exciting world of CoC2 in the last couple of days than I have in years.
The mushroom dungeon writes a new reason into existence. Ignore all the previous foreshadowing, it was actually corrupt wyld trees that were killing the old wyld gods.
The end.
This many times, there are plenty of good ideas but also, you can practically feel the spite/love from some factions/characters in some really dumb ways
Stuff gets shelved all the time to make space for more lame stuff that gets shelved too
Oh wow, such a shitty retcon.
The one Kashyra is having in her pants
After taking over Winter City there's a quest to recover a wyld tree temple
Hmm... between those two reasons I vote.....
I might go back to play it again, it's been a long time so a lot of that content's probably fresh to me all over again, and I'd like to take a look at some of the modded versions floating around if I can find 'em. Heard some of them add entirely new zones and characters. It also just sounds fun right about now, get a lot of the better parts of CoC2's lore, with more freedom and day to day adventures. (Adventures that don't all revolve around Kass and her latest wacky misadventures off-screen.)
Idk, Mareth stakes feel way higher.
That's something that you always need to keep in mind when writing a setting. If a god/NPC can come around and solve every problem, why even have an adventure to begin with?
Yeah, i said this to them and they got quite and didn't want to talk about when they was mentioning that some npcs like the gods, the church priest, vampire lady and others are really strong. I even followed it with fact that this supposed too be a demon invasion and they are just sitting around doing jack shit without a actually good reason.
Narratively? Sure. But in actual feeling? I gotta disagree. 1st one was a lot more laid back. You were coming in late to the party. After everyone already ate all the chips, left nothing but warm crap beer, and passed out in their own puke. Like the whole adventure is pretty chill. You have the end goal to stop Lethice. But everything before that is just kinda there. CoC2 is where things are actively happening and unfolding. Which you respond to in a big connected story.
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Introducing deities into a setting is a lot like introducing time travel. It's something you need to add a lot of hard rules or explanations for lest the entire power structure of the setting falls on it's face. In CoC, most the deities were already either fallen to corruption, killed, wholly indifferent to the state of things, or in Mareth's case, barely clinging onto sanity. This pretty well explains why they haven't done anything to the demons before the Champ showed up. They just didn't care or were quickly taken out.
Savin said themselves that they got the idea for the gods from "Pillars of Eternity 1-2".
Because you need one more thing to tell you that your MC is trash and not in any way shape or form necessary to save the world. The problem with that is that they also need a reason for you to play the game, so you only see this effectively in Bad Ends. The entire thing is that...
... is not a joke. Savin is so very incredibly desperate to tell you in every single moment that your MC is not important. He just can't handle cleaning up that particular mess he creates so you always get convoluted reasons, retcons and etc. I don't know why they fear the MC being a power fantasy, I really don't, maybe they just hate the Hero's Journey or something... it's hard to say. All I know is that Savin keeps making messes he has to clean up, fears the idea that any factions actually have real conflict - probably to avoid drama in the Discord - and just in general I don't think this game was ever meant to be Corruption of Champions. It's just Brand Recognition™ to save whatever idea he had wanted to make.
