Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.18] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Tsubuhaza]

I don't trust mods to be stable until this game is finished tbh. CoC1's mods came after its death, so it won't break every build. We're still not at that point yet with 2 and god knows how long that'll be.

True, but the fact people are trying it already makes me think optimistically about it.

All we need is for Savco to finish it and fuck off.

 

[SatanHGG]

I kind of remember one of my friends telling me about Anna and Mia, being like the anorexia and bulimia mascots

Not mascots where I'd been, just nicknames for the conditions. Ana and Mia. And if you were supportive of perpetuating anorexic behaviors, you were pro-ana.
Thinspo and bonespo were also common tags if you wanted to look at photos of anorexics or memes about body goals.
"coaching" if you wanted to be groomed by psuedo-lesbian domestic abusers or sub-80 IQ neckbeards. Some girls out there using younger anas as outlets for their frustration with their own body and the damage they'd done to themselves, hoping to inflict as much or worse of a fate on others.
I could write pages and pages about this stuff so I need to restrain myself. Lot of fun though!

CoC2 would be better if there was a dangerously thin character for all the bone lovers. Which, also, reminds me the skeleton princess in princess conquest has ribjob animations.

 

[Jbuster]

That wouldn't be a problem if Savco wasn't going to fucking trash everything along with Leofric's special OC bit.



I'm genuinely looking forward to Id, but I know better than to expect getting Marie Alter. Fucking gacha.



I do think this isn't so much a Little Bitch Savin moment, but them just axing shit to see if they can finally finish the game. Thankfully modding has advanced enough to allow us the possibility of building on top of the game and reinserting stuff, right?

The final version is supposed to be released by next year, right?, eventually the genocide of innocent cringe OCs will come to an end

I still think Savin should cut stuff at the end and only when there's no one willing to tackle that content. both he and we know all of this is about pettiness but at least the dude could for once look aside and allow the talented group of community writers he got to do their think. It doesn't need to be perfect as long as you things gets done

Now on the other hand if he insist with this it doesn't matter, eventually he won't work more on the game and new writers are bound to get inspired and add stuff on their own. Moding is inevitable

Takahiro belonged to Bubblelord who ghosted everyone a while back and got a job. Nobody ever liked Taka besides Bubble.


There was never Berwyn companion content in Ba Sing Se.


A third party corrupting an NPC could work in theory, just not off screen. Technically you the player can corrupt Drifa by peer pressuring her into diving into the pool of evil water to get an item. In my defense I never learned how to swim and needed help.


You clearly haven't met any interesting goths.

Takahiro being erased of every known record as soon as new Shogun Savin took the place of old his master might be the truest nipon thing they've ever done, real rising sun shit

Spoiler: Brief Tobsing about Takahiro

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BubbleLord silently dipped from the project, and now Savin is taking petty pot-shots at his characters any chance he gets, like he has been doing to characters of other authors who had left.
Regular Savin activities, nothing out of the ordinary.

>*Very old champion hugging their moiraspawn futa granddaughter*
>"This place used to be really different before, me and Lusamine used to hang out there where the new futa Bar is, I wonder what happened with Garth's family?, at least the nice futa lady there won't look at me funny when I stare into nothingness wondering what went wrong with my life. I miss my old friends"
>*The moiraspawn futa granddaughter looking nervously to the empty lot where the mass grave of cut characters is*, "I'm pretty sure they're happy doing their own old people stuff, now how about we go back inside before someone have the funny idea of getting us axed?"

 

[Pizza Lord]

Hot take, we need more cock. But specifically on a tentacle monster. I can't believe the resident weeb hasn't incorporated that aspect of Japanese culture yet. Tobs bout to have his Japanophile card revoked.

(Apologies if this was relayed before, there's like 5 pages to read through since I last checked the forum).
I believe B has written a tentacle monster. Based on the tentacle summons you learn from Rixx, the goblin summoner in Khor'minos. You can call them at yourWayfort summoning circle to sex you up. And supposedly, the tentacles can even knock you up.

 

[pencilfight]

In the first game Champion was the driving force of purification or corruption of intractable characters. While in this shitshow Champ is just a silent voyeur, forever tied to a cuck chair (especially now that they removed bimbo hive, the only instance of Champ actually corrupting someone by their own hands).
I hate this shit with burning passion.

The only thing getting corrupted in this game anymore is the MC's anus by someone's "Original the Character" self insert

 

[Gameguy614]

At this point I want to know everyone's kinks now. And I can't ask that without saying mine, breeding kink and probably a pregnancy one as well. View attachment 5475474
So you lads, ladies and chicken nuggets mind sharing.

Gangbangs, bdsm, sph, facials/getting cummed on, being dominated

this game hits three of them pretty well. (The party service scene for the mino soldiers and the Evelyn scene where she puts you in chastity and then fucks you are my two favorites, and as everyone here is well aware, there’s no shortage of content where the pc gets dommed)

 

[Bluebird42]

Quin is a dead end but we keep hearing that he's being worked on, but I've not seen anything on that. So until there is noted progress outside of a "he said she said" sorta thing, I consider him dead too and unfortunately yet another male companion at risk of being thrown out just bc Savin wants to.

I was allowed to adopt Quin. His base set rework + a new set for him has been submitted since April 2024 (Savin's already looked at it and approved it) and Quin's menu rewrites + some overworld stuff were submitted a handful of months ago. His dad!expac is half written and his buttslut expac is drafted and next after his dad stuff.

Though as an aside, I was not allowed to write companion blurbs for him for the last Act 2 MSQ quest that Savin wrote, which is currently being coded

 

[M0nte]

Damn, Over a year and a half for companion set. Let me take a gander and presume that Savin is waiting for you to MSQ to finish so that they could implement his menu rewrites + combat rework.

Anyway, any plans for him to get a new bust?

 

[Bluebird42]

Damn, Over a year and a half for companion set. Let me take a gander and presume that Savin is waiting for you to MSQ to finish so that they could implement his menu rewrites + combat rework.

Anyway, any plans for him to get a new bust?

Idk what the plans are. I'm not officially on payroll so I'm not really privy to those plans.

I'd love a new bust for Quin, but I've got no clue if that's on the docket for him. I do have this sketch Moira did of him a while back though!

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

You got the reference, good on you.

Hey, you make a obscure reference to peak shit n I'm likely to catch it.

Only the rear angle. Everything else from him is comparatively boring, bland and thoroughly uninspired. Which is a shame for some of the more interesting characters. Just saying, even if your mind is filled with anal, as a good writer you have to be able to jump over your own ego and write enticing stuff for different tastes.

I've kind of noticed that too like if it's not anal, it's relatively fast, and even when it's anal, it's like, I don't know, man, kind of bland which is why I don't really feel about him being l the best, I think, the best author they have is wsan, and it's not even because of Brienne. I think he's better at setting a scene and describing actions characters performpe. Now, don't get me wrong he falls into just regular character archetypes that he makes and doing a lot of tell and little showing, but at the very least, there's a style there.You can recognize, with Savin it's like a mixture of different stuff that's not really flavored.You know?

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Thing is they can finish their damn game without removing more and more shit.

The hive was a dead end but it didn't need removing, it needed the actual higher ups to get off their ass and do something with it and its corruption content. "Nobody wanted to write for it" my ass, you (you as in Savin) put it in there as an option, you should account for that branch ffs.
The mercs are a dead end bc Bubs dipped for his own good (I consider anyone fucking off from SavCo on their own merits as for their own good tbh (RIP Hugs mental health given his case was mostly unwilling tho he is doing a lot better lately), Bubs has been shown displeased with Savin in those discord logs years ago that I really need to fucking find again from I think the TiTS thread) and nobody's taking over for them. Bluebird I think recently said they could if they were able, but Savin would rather just nuke them all into the ether, despite the fact that Lusamine is one of the most popular mercs with many wanting to help her fertility issues, and Boomer is relatively unproblematic but doesn't have a lot going on. However as stated, the mercs have a lot of value in staying in, they just need someone to pick them up, and that is a lot of character (and some worldbuilding) content potential on its own through that gang if you do it well.
Quin is a dead end but we keep hearing that he's being worked on, but I've not seen anything on that. So until there is noted progress outside of a "he said she said" sorta thing, I consider him dead too and unfortunately yet another male companion at risk of being thrown out just bc Savin wants to.

I don't trust mods to be stable until this game is finished tbh. CoC1's mods came after its death, so it won't break every build. We're still not at that point yet with 2 and god knows how long that'll be.

And don't forget, they're actively building the code and the game to be very unfriendly to mods.
My problem with "dead ends" is that they can be a hub for different types of content. So a dead end is just a closed route. Like, do they expect it to continue on forever? At some point it has to end. Because if you look at regular hive, it's also a dead end. Because there's nothing more there unless someone wants to add to it, so them saying it's a dead end is just another excuse to not do shit.

 

[Alfred_Hayes1245]

I think their plot can be retconned like this.

You first encounter the mercs when you go out into the foothills and find them contributing to the problem and raiding like orcs.

You the Champ beat them around a few times and eventually Jen shows up and acts tsundere and haughty towards you. You fight her and make her see that her troops are acting like animals and she slaps some sense into them. Maybe have Jen's appearance be based on whether you've dealt with the orcs yet.

Regardless, you learn about Leofric and how he basically ditched everyone to go punch people and that's why the mercs were being unruly because dear leader wasn't around to keep them in check and Jen is way in over her head at leading an army- she only knows how to command squads of troops.

There's a scene in Hawkthorne where Jen apologizes to Carmen and makes nice with the people and now the mercs start popping up in town and at the Frosthound. Cue options where we can get to know Lusamine, Boomer, Jen, etc. on a deeper level. Establish the foundations for future relationships, especially with Jen where you can either stay friends with her or pursue something deeper by sympathizing with her concern for Leofric or telling her that he's a bum.

Then after that's done and probably after some other benchmark, have Jen come to you saying she's found a lead on Leofric and how he's gone mad thinking he's Tira's chosen. The merc quest involves you and the mercs going after Leofric to stop his rampage. Possibly tie it to Tollus or demons if you want, but have it be mostly Leofric and maybe his elite guard going hulk on people's asses.

It ends with a boss fight that has options to kill Leofric outright or purify him and toss him in your dungeon. Maybe have Tira make an appearance where she straight up tell him he's not her champion and to stop calling her and punching people in her name. Jen slaps him across the face and either fully becomes the Champ's girl or thanking them for getting Leofric back.

Proceed with the aftermath with Jen x Champ interactions, Lusamine x Champ interactions and possible Lusamine fertility sidequest (Or have that be a sidequest in merc quest), Boomer x Champ interactions, and Leofric interactions with possible sex scenes. Also possible Tira scenes, those would be nice. Isn't she a big goth mommy with a bush, if my memory serves?

Why are not one of the main writer?

 

[FurrBat]

You know its fuckin funny to me that Tits could do a timed quest with permanent consequences that you can trigger yourself if you wanted to.

Random question, how many in-game oc's does Savin have? Like I know Hana, the (ofc) dickgirl hoplite and the blue haired dickgirl elf getting pipe from Brint in one CG.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

That wouldn't be a problem if Savco wasn't going to fucking trash everything along with Leofric's special OC bit.

The funny thing is, if they remove the mercs then they just made more stuff they have to edit out just for the sake of trolling Bubs' spirit. But I guess that's a coder problem and Savin doesn't care.

Fucking gacha.

I got extremely lucky and got Jalter and I think I burned through my gacha luck with her.

True, but the fact people are trying it already makes me think optimistically about it.

All we need is for Savco to finish it and fuck off.

Once the game is finished and mods don't have to worry about a new build dropping and fucking the code, I'm optimistic something good will begin. Will probably take time but also probably less time than it's taken to finish the Act 2 main quest.

The final version is supposed to be released by next year, right?

I'll believe it when it happens. Guess Savin is bored and looking to pull a Fen. Wonder if Kinu will ever be finished.

Though as an aside, I was not allowed to write companion blurbs for him for the last Act 2 MSQ quest that Savin wrote, which is currently being coded

That's peculiar. Is it because he wrote them himself or is it something else?

And don't forget, they're actively building the code and the game to be very unfriendly to mods.

True but to try and stay optimistic, there's only so much Savin can do and even if he goes nuclear there will always be a build and code from a previous point that can be used. There's nothing he can do to truly stop it, only delay the inevitable. Plus there's always the possibility someone discovers the source code and then nothing Savin does will have any impact unless he uproots the whole damn thing. But unless he's paying the coders big bucks I doubt they'll stay for such a plan.

It's the Streisand Effect. And much like Barbara Streisand, Savin sucks.

Random question, how many in-game oc's does Savin have? Like I know Hana, the (ofc) dickgirl hoplite and the blue haired dickgirl elf getting pipe from Brint in one CG.

Depends on what you classify as an OC in this case. It's his setting so outside those two characters it gets kinda murky compared to Tobs for example. If you mean self insert then I think it's just the blue haired elf. She even has her girlfriend's ghost summonable and is programmed to respond if your character is named after Savin's self insert in what I assume is an easter egg for him alone. Hana is more his ideal fetish bait waifu.

 

[Teshay]

Savin everyone. The man who hocks the name of a game where you can corrupt, mind break, and mentally fuck up other characters through various means hates all three of those and anything done by contributors who WANT to actually represent that part of the game world. :U
Absurd and absolute pussy of a man. You don't have to like rape, mind break, and mind fuckery. I certainly don't. But then don't make a sequel to a game where a major mechanic IS THAT YOU CAN DO THAT AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S KNOWN FOR.

Funny thing is that he doesn't care if this happens to the champion in various bad ends where we are forcible changed against our will. But that happening towards any npc is no good. This game has no bite to it at all, It's fucking TOOTHLESS. No consequences, no rewards, it's all just a drifting state of limbo. Filled with irrelevant npcs who satisfy the samey kinks.

It's not so much that he sneak attacks you, but how it's handled. The stat checks weren't added until way after the initial scene's implementation, the writing is juvenile, and it doesn't serve to establish Leofric as a combat pragmatist but instead to wank his power. It was peak Bubblelord.

I wouldn't even call it a proper wank because the tactic is cowardly. This muscular, powerful champion tip-toes behind you and knocks you out is lame as fuck. Then he calls you weak for it. I would get second-hand embarrassment even trying to write someone like that. BL was too focused on sucking his own cock to see how unlikable that would make his character, people need to have it beaten into them that the player character is the center to where the story is told and the people who play will be seeing and experiencing things through that center. So hoeing them for no reason would piss most of them off. It's not like we are going out of our way to fight the mercs they are trying to rob us and we are defending ourselves. Instead of the leader telling her mercs off she instead tries to fight us because we give her people a bad name by beating them.

As the champion, we should have had plenty of ways to handle this with the most glaring one being telling other kingdoms and Carmen that the mercs are harassing you and most likely other travelers like common bandits, which would really fuck up their chances of being hired and might even put a bounty on them. But that requires the game to be logical.

Jen tells you he called you lame.... like what? The whole thing is goofy and comes off extra self-inserty.

It was like watching a writer fan girl about themselves. Even the insult reeked of early high-school fan-fiction. I'd be extremely embarassed if I was BL tbh.

It's not even the fact that corrupt Drifa is not raped by anyone. It's the fact that the corruption is done by outsider third party, instead of you know the Champion.
Same with Ahmri, instead of Champ corrupting her, she just gets handed off to demons and later returned after skipping all the corruption process.
It's so fucking stupid. In the first game Champion was the driving force of purification or corruption of intractable characters. While in this shitshow Champ is just a silent voyeur, forever tied to a cuck chair (especially now that they removed bimbo hive, the only instance of Champ actually corrupting someone by their own hands).
I hate this shit with burning passion.

Same with Viviane too. Not only is it less empowering, but it's also far less interesting and kills alot of investment in said characters. The vibe of your camp changes so much with pure characters and how they interact with others, while your normal and non-corrupt followers want to avoid or have the corrupted outright killed. You actions could lead to the outright corruption of the main goddess of Mareth, Marae. That was wicked and had immediate consequences if you visited her again after that. This game has way more words and art but feels hollow in comparison. Everything is resulted and handled in the most off-hand, boring way possible.

Imagine after winning the fight, that's your chance to fuck his soldier right in front of him or even corrupt her if you've gone down that path. Hell, maybe you'd fuck and/or corrupt him. Imagine her beloved and respected commander getting railed or ridden right in front of her, slowly transforming to better your degenerate sexual preferences. Could've been femboy or full lady, or more. Would be pretty sweet to me, but instead, it's just yet another instance of having little player agency and how you're not even the protagonist of your own story.

I think the funniest part is just how Leo never expects it to happen, like you being so much stronger than him is a complete surprise, and near the end of his corruption route, he agonizes over the fact that if he didn't just try to flex on you, none of this would have happened.

That wouldn't be a problem if Savco wasn't going to fucking trash everything along with Leofric's special OC bit.

I wouldn't have a problem if he added as much content as he took away or actually worked on the companions. As things are going nothing is going to even feel remotely finished except the "story". We aren't even going to explore the world and see the different factions and regions, truly earning a championship from each king and queen. We do shit in Hawkethorne, then do shit in mino-city and we're done. Balls dropped left and right, people I guess the payers are more invested in the generic npcs then the actual story and promises made along the

The hive was a dead end but it didn't need removing, it needed the actual higher ups to get off their ass and do something with it and its corruption content. "Nobody wanted to write for it" my ass, you (you as in Savin) put it in there as an option, you should account for that branch ffs.
The mercs are a dead end bc Bubs dipped for his own good (I consider anyone fucking off from SavCo on their own merits as for their own good tbh (RIP Hugs mental health given his case was mostly unwilling tho he is doing a lot better lately), Bubs has been shown displeased with Savin in those discord logs years ago that I really need to fucking find again from I think the TiTS thread) and nobody's taking over for them. Bluebird I think recently said they could if they were able, but Savin would rather just nuke them all into the ether, despite the fact that Lusamine is one of the most popular mercs with many wanting to help her fertility issues, and Boomer is relatively unproblematic but doesn't have a lot going on. However as stated, the mercs have a lot of value in staying in, they just need someone to pick them up, and that is a lot of character (and some worldbuilding) content potential on its own through that gang if you do it well.
Quin is a dead end but we keep hearing that he's being worked on, but I've not seen anything on that. So until there is noted progress outside of a "he said she said" sorta thing, I consider him dead too and unfortunately yet another male companion at risk of being thrown out just bc Savin wants to.

He literally has the rights to the characters in the first place, but instead chooses to get rid of them which is very telling of how fucking selfish and lazy he is. If it doesn't make his peepee hard, he doesn't want to bother.

I was allowed to adopt Quin. His base set rework + a new set for him has been submitted since April 2024 (Savin's already looked at it and approved it) and Quin's menu rewrites + some overworld stuff were submitted a handful of months ago. His dad!expac is half written and his buttslut expac is drafted and next after his dad stuff.

Though as an aside, I was not allowed to write companion blurbs for him for the last Act 2 MSQ quest that Savin wrote, which is currently being coded

That's fucking stupid, why is that a thing? Every companion should have some reaction to stuff happening in the wuest, it just seems unnecessary. I thought the writers were just being extremely lazy but it just gets worst and worst,

wsan, and it's not even because of Brienne. I think he's better at setting a scene and describing actions characters performpe. Now, don't get me wrong he falls into just regular character archetypes that he makes and doing a lot of tell and little showing, but at the very least, there's a style there.You can recognize, with Savin it's like a mixture of different stuff that's not really flavored.You know?

Wsan writes good blowjobs and cock worship. Not to mention sometimes aftercare. I also feel the champ and wsan's characters have a more noticable sexual dynamic, it;s easy to fap to his stuff and agree with the sexual actions the champion takes, instead of winks, shrugs, winning grin Savin. Still not as bad as tobs tho.
man.

 

[M0nte]

Idk what the plans are. I'm not officially on payroll so I'm not really privy to those plans.

I'd love a new bust for Quin, but I've got no clue if that's on the docket for him. I do have this sketch Moira did of him a while back though! View attachment 5482022

Everyone is getting a new one at this point, even Kiyoko with her many variations and I am sure Cait is due for one, so it would be a the darnest thing if our resident twink didn't recieve his bust anew.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Something that I'd like to ask the thread because the dead end thing is legit bugging me. So I have to ask what makes content a dead end, and how does that apply to the hive? Cause I know Im not tweakin.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Wsan writes good blowjobs and cock worship. Not to mention sometimes aftercare. I also feel the champ and wsan's characters have a more noticable sexual dynamic, it;s easy to fap to his stuff and agree with the sexual actions the champion takes, instead of winks, shrugs, winning grin Savin. Still not as bad as tobs tho.
man.

The thing with Wsan is that he turns the pc into Brint, which is Ironic on a couple of levels in your case I don't want to be Brint or have his attitude. I'm me, he's him, but because of the way they went about characterization of the pc (that is they are everything and thus nothing at all) we don't get writer's trying to make characters work. Wsan handles it better because he just gives the pc traits he's used to writing when the pc gets to top/bottom. Savin is a generalist so the pc will have whatever personality the fetish of that craving requires for it to play out. Tobs disgards the pc altogether and uses them as a stand-in camera for his plays.

 

[Jbuster]

Idk what the plans are. I'm not officially on payroll so I'm not really privy to those plans.

I'd love a new bust for Quin, but I've got no clue if that's on the docket for him. I do have this sketch Moira did of him a while back though! View attachment 5482022

I need him wearing a tight NIN t-shirt and fishnets gloves

Something that I'd like to ask the thread because the dead end thing is legit bugging me. So I have to ask what makes content a dead end, and how does that apply to the hive? Cause I know Im not tweakin.

I would say, Savin's careful planning and vision and not lashing out because people demanded corruption from the corruption game

Corrupted hive was a thing to do to get bimbo wasp and not so lesbian anymore knight, it was fine as it was because you barely go there

Takahiro is a drunk bastard and not your problem, you can tune him out which was their way to say they don't wanna do anything with him

The mercenaries are something that could be fixed should anyone be allowed to do so, even Leofric's intro is as easy as to have him attack you and your champion defending with whatever stat works better, for example, though champ could block the punch, fast champ parry, strong champ punch right back and smart champ sidesteps, all of them could acknowledge that the guy is crazy strong, and in the same act, Jean who knows him better could notice he's not mentally stable, thus pushing the quest to make him submit, defeat him and take over the mercenaries, giving you more soldiers because you, the champion, are supposed to fight against eeeeviiiiiil

We have been over this before, the guy is fueled by two things, futa dick and pettiness

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I need him wearing a tight NIN t-shirt and fishnets gloves


I would say, Savin's careful planning and vision and not lashing out because people demanded corruption from the corruption game

Corrupted hive was a thing to do to get bimbo wasp and not so lesbian anymore knight, it was fine as it was because you barely go there

Takahiro is a drunk bastard and not your problem, you can tune him out which was their way to say they don't wanna do anything with him

The mercenaries are something that could be fixed should anyone be allowed to do so, even Leofric's intro is as easy as to have him attack you and your champion defending with whatever stat works better, for example, though champ could block the punch, fast champ parry, strong champ punch right back and smart champ sidesteps, all of them could acknowledge that the guy is crazy strong, and in the same act, Jean who knows him better could notice he's not mentally stable, thus pushing the quest to make him submit, defeat him and take over the mercenaries, giving you more soldiers because you, the champion, are supposed to fight against eeeeviiiiiil

We have been over this before, the guy is fueled by two things, futa dick and pettiness

Like, I know we've been on this road. It's still baffles the mind sometimes. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

I honestly want a femboy route for Quinn (prolly never happen) but handsome twink is....not my thing but its there for tht crowd.