Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.4] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Yeppers34]

Hot damn i worked a full 10 hour shift slept 8 hours came back and you guys are still at it. You all are taking breaks right, staying hydrated?

 

[B-52 Stratofortress]

yes of course the holy snippers of antioch!

To the shock and surprise of no one.

 

[devilaffect]

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this one really caught my eye. seems relevent right about now.

I don't use just the forum buddy, which is why I mentioned floating the idea of trying to become a mod to get more pull with them. And yeah, I did in fact say that. Would you care to look into it what led up to my curtness there or should I provide the context?

And we are right back to the cherry picking being an issue. Yes, I usually defend the devs and have never denied that. I also have plenty of things that I dislike, but I don't feel the need to always vocally project it because it's usually just a matter of something not being to my taste. Like Pippa, the Elf horse boy, or the Steph changes being a waste of time.

What I did, since you so gracefully left out, was typically argue about people complaining about the ratio of herms to everything else, Riya just existing, or other matters of taste not being an objective fact. A lot of my posts are also just answering questions for people or providing alternate download links for people who struggled with the official links. There's also arguments about events that went down in the community. Once again, something I've never denied.

Also, I said the devs were responsive to my ideas. Like a recent discussion where I tried to talk somebody into channeling their frustration into a more constructive form so they would be more receptive to it. It doesn't benefit them at all and I really don't know if it will enact any change, but they at least agreed with it on some level.

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Edit: That also only goes back 2017 where things were much more calm.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

You never know
With Savin's bottom energy and his love for dick, I would never bet that he would't give him a sloppy if he asked nice enough.
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Well don't forget, he is a mega cuck as well.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

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Man that brings back memories' bro Shit was fun as fuck back then, and I got what I wanted, good times.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

so to answer you're question no he does not talk to the devs the same he talks to literally everyone else. Since he was so kind as to tell us his username on the forums I went ahead and looked him up.
View attachment 4489208 went back through ten pages all the way to 2017. he has never once called the devs shitty people or even disagreed with them on anything. he has done a lot of bootlicking over there though, I'm sure they apprieciate that.

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this one really caught my eye. seems relevent right about now.

Savin's greatest student, that one.

 

[devilaffect]

Man that brings back memories' bro Shit was fun as fuck back then.

Seriously though, did you actually plan to annoy them into content or did it just kinda happen? Either way it's impressive.

 

[Biostar]

It's hardly spiteful to ask people to reconsider their preconceived notions and how they take in information that they are presented when it's sparse and lacking context. I would also argue that you can't be the victim while slinging around insults on the internet. Doubly so when you say they are so repugnant and proceed to be just as bad as them.

Dumbass, I was talking about the devs spiting their audience when they were not even involved in the Helspawn nonsense, and you treating them like they're victims to justify what they did.

so to answer you're question no he does not talk to the devs the same he talks to literally everyone else. Since he was so kind as to tell us his username on the forums I went ahead and looked him up.

I didn't need this to know he was full of shit but thanks. Now I really have no reason to bother.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

Seriously though, did you actually plan to annoy them into content or did it just kinda happen? Either way it's impressive.

I will go down in history as a legend. At first, I mainly just wanted to mess with them, but I thought maybe if I just spam comments and annoy them I will get something, and so I kept at it dedication is key and well here we are I got what I wanted, and now I am a legend immortalised like Rome.

 

[devilaffect]

Dumbass, I was talking about the devs spiting their audience when they were not even involved in the Helspawn nonsense, and you treating them like they're victims to justify what they did.

I didn't need this to know he was full of shit but thanks. Now I really have no reason to bother.

They were absolutely involved, it just so happened that a not insignificant portion of them weren't. You're acting like they did it to spite their entire audience and not just the people who were annoying them.

But yet you're still bothering and by the way I use the forums (including dms), the comment sections on the blog, and discord. And no I will not continue to dox myself because all it got me was a weird gotcha that doesn't prove anything I'm not willing to admit.

Edit: You're free to ask me serious questions and I will do my best to answer them. Whether it's just genuine curiosity or to establish some sort of character, fire away.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I will go down in history as a legend. At first, I mainly just wanted to mess with them, but I thought maybe if I just spam comments and annoy them I will get something, and so I kept at it dedication is key play and well here we are I got what I wanted, and now I am a legend immortalised like Rome.

As kids these days say - he's the GOAT.

 

[daboss456]

I don't use just the forum buddy, which is why I mentioned floating the idea of trying to become a mod to get more pull with them. And yeah, I did in fact say that. Would you care to look into it what led up to my curtness there or should I provide the context?

Yeah I did as a matter fact. I also saw the part were B said picking Berwyn was the worst mistake he ever made, and you know what I couldn't agree more. As for the context of your statement, I'll let you give it since anytime anytime anyone else shows a screenshot it's "cherry picking".

And we are right back to the cherry picking being an issue. Yes, I usually defend the devs and have never denied that. I also have plenty of things that I dislike, but I don't feel the need to always vocally project it because it's usually just a matter of something not being to my taste. Like Pippa, the Elf horse boy, or the Steph changes being a waste of time.

What I did, since you so gracefully left out, was typically argue about people complaining about the ratio of herms to everything else, Riya just existing, or other matters of taste not being an objective fact. A lot of my posts are also just answering questions for people or providing alternate download links for people who struggled with the official links. There's also arguments about events that went down in the community. Once again, something I've never denied.

"Yeah guys don't trust the screenshots they're all cherry picked and totally out of context. My evidence? Trust me bro."
edit: also I never said you denied anything I was just answering dolosolo's question.

Also, I said the devs were responsive to my ideas. Like a recent discussion where I tried to talk somebody into channeling their frustration into a more constructive form so they would be more receptive to it. It doesn't benefit them at all and I really don't know if it will enact any change, but they at least agreed with it on some level.

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what? they left a like? That's your bar for responsive?

 

[Nimbus Commando]

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As kids these days say - he's the GOAT.

Brothers you will all be immortalised like me one day, keep up the fight, don't let your dreams be dreams.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Edit: You're free to ask me serious questions and I will do my best to answer them. Whether it's just genuine curiosity or to establish some sort of character, fire away.

What is the average speed of an unladen swallow? Is it faster than the time it takes Cait to suck a dick?

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As kids these days say - he's the GOAT.

Cream of the crop, yeah!

 

[MarvintheBee]

I will go down in history as a legend. At first, I mainly just wanted to mess with them, but I thought maybe if I just spam comments and annoy them I will get something, and so I kept at it dedication is key and well here we are I got what I wanted, and now I am a legend immortalised like Rome.

Now that I think about it, it's really facinating how so many things can get cut due to time restraints. But creating 4 characters and a quest just to spite someone, really rubs me the wrong way.

But okay I guess, I like the cat harem especially as William himself wrote their scenes. And William maybe wasn't the most reliable worker but when he did deliver, you could be sure it was good shit.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

Now that I think about it, it's really facinating how so many things can get cut due to time restraints. But creating 4 characters and a quest just to spite someone, really rubs me the wrong way.

But okay I guess, I like the cat harem especially as William himself wrote their scenes. And William maybe wasn't the most reliable worker but when he did deliver, you could be sure it was good shit.

It was not just for me brother, it was for all harem fans.

 

[devilaffect]

Yeah I did as a matter fact. I also saw the part were B said picking Berwyn was the worst mistake he ever made, and you know what I couldn't agree more. As for the context of your statement, I'll let you give it since anytime anytime anyone else shows a screenshot it's "cherry picking".


"Yeah guys don't trust the screenshots they're all cherry picked and totally out of context. My evidence? Trust me bro."


what? they left a like? That's your bar for responsive?

My evidence that they are possibly cherry picked is that they don't show entire conversations. It could be completely inane and unnecessary or it could be entirely relevant to establish what happened. If any of my screenshots seem cherry picked I would be open to that critique, but they aren't the middle of conversations, nor do they span 4 hour gaps. They are mostly the polls, Savin's verbiage on Sephora, and and Nonesuch's singular comment on Will. I even praised the Balak one being a more complete conversation, while still noting that it is a one off. Much more compelling than two separate shots multiple hours apart with only one remark from each party or the lack of a screenshot at all. It's not like there isn't a precedent for people doing this online. Not to mention I brought up that I would like to find more on the Bubble situation.

There's some one offs in the comments as well as a dm or two, but it is a low bar I will admit. But you have to start somewhere and when that somewhere is telling people to try to not be inflammatory to get what you want, I think that is a good point. At the very least I may be able to fashion my points in a way that won't be outright ignored. Will I actually be able to get them to listen. No idea. But it's better than being in either echo chamber.

 

[Biostar]

You're acting like they did it to spite their entire audience and not just the people who were annoying them.

Doesn't matter their intention when that is the result. FoE players had to deal with their CoC PC being portrayed as some giant asshole. CoC2 players who poured in hours raising and investing in Kinu had to deal with that ass abrupt age-up and being treated as an outsider by the wife and daughter they got into because years ago the people who were into the Helspawn incest content and were vocal about it on the forums made a fuss. The fact you automatically lump the thousands of players who play this game into that hyper specific group, really just shows how disingenuous you are in pretending you care about fairness.

But yet you're still bothering

Not bothering to take you seriously. I'm always willing to call out bullshit though.

You're free to ask me serious questions

Don't make me laugh. Your word carries no weight.

 

[daboss456]

My evidence that they are possibly cherry picked is that they don't show entire conversations. It could be completely inane and unnecessary or it could be entirely relevant to establish what happened. If any of my screenshots seem cherry picked I would be open to that critique, but they aren't the middle of conversations, nor do they span 4 hour gaps. They are mostly the polls, Savin's verbiage on Sephora, and and Nonesuch's singular comment on Will. I even praised the Balak one being a more complete conversation, while still noting that it is a one off. Much more compelling than two separate shots multiple hours apart with only one remark from each party or the lack of a screenshot at all. It's not like there isn't a precedent for people doing this online. Not to mention I brought up that I would like to find more on the Bubble situation.

There's some one offs in the comments as well as a dm or two, but it is a low bar I will admit. But you have to start somewhere and when that somewhere is telling people to try to not be inflammatory to get what you want, I think that is a good point. At the very least I may be able to fashion my points in a way that won't be outright ignored. Will I actually be able to get them to listen. No idea. But it's better than being in either echo chamber.

mmh can't help but notice you did not provide any additional context for your statement. But you know what I try to be fair, I'll give you one more chance to do this on your own terms before I give the play by play myself.

 

[devilaffect]

Doesn't matter their intention when that is the result. FoE players had to deal with their CoC PC being portrayed as some giant asshole. CoC2 players who poured in hours raising and investing in Kinu had to deal with that ass abrupt age-up and being treated as an outsider by the wife and daughter they got into because years ago the people who were into the Helspawn incest content and were vocal about it on the forums made a fuss. The fact you automatically lump the thousands of players who play this game into that hyper specific group, really just shows how disingenuous you are in pretending you care about fairness.

Not bothering to take you seriously. I'm always willing to call out bullshit though.

Don't make me laugh. Your word carries no weight.

I literally just clarified that a not insignificant portion of the audience experienced the fallout of other people's actions. I'm not lumping them together and I fully understand if those people are frustrated. Would you be frustrated if there was 50 pages of your name being mentioned, mostly in a negative manner, on a single thread. It sure as shit ain't gonna get better without some effort on both sides.

What point are you even trying to prove? It doesn't matter who was more at fault if neither side is making the effort to be better and your sitting here just stoking the flames because you can't get over some fictional waifu from over a decade ago. What do you have to lose by allowing everybody on all sides some level of grace for shit that has spanned over a decade. It's not that hard to just admit that it was fucking dumb on all sides and got blown out of proportion.