sugouxxx

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I know that feel too well, brother :(. TiTS seems like it has more content for us normal male enjoyers, but as a fan of pseudo-fantasy I'm saddened at how futa centralized CoC2 is
It's not. TiTS has more a lot Futa content than CoC2.But you can fuck most of their pussy or ass. Which basically being dom or equal in bed. Not in the Tits, you can see clearly their futa either get sucked, or using your poor ass. Only few you can have vanilla sex with them. And the worst part ? Most of them unlikable cunt without redemption quality
 

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Oh look first mayternity update!

What's that? only stuff for female MC to do? I SLEEP

Honestly I'm only excited with the P.S of this update hinting that we get Zhara the harpy wingleader to move into the wayfort, I like me my dommy harpy with impregnation fetish (then again not being into female MC I could play devil's advocate and say this update just wasn't for me...but seriously who gives a fuck bout extra content on the High Ground if you in a lesbo threesome with bee girl & paladin?)
 

MoneyMan181

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The goal of COC and COC2 are the same exact thing, their not even trying to hide it.
Like Alterism said, presentation of said goal matters. Yes the goal of both games is to kill the big bad. Problem with this game is that the goal is muddied and makes zero sense after a while.

Why are we going after Kasyrra in the first place? Because she said she was going to steal your soul. Alright, cool MC has valid reason to want to stop the big bad because they don't want that to happen. Small problem arises when Kasyrra literally tells the MC that she wants you to get more experience to make your soul better for her. Why would you continue your journey and give her what she wants by proxy? HUGE problem arises when you give your soul to one of the gods. If you do this(and objectively there is no reason not to unless you don't want to TF), then there is absolutely nothing Kasyrra can do unless she finds out who has it which she has no way of doing.

There you go, the journey is over. The goal has been accomplished. MC can fuck off and do whatever they want because apparently we're weak as shit and all these NPCs are apparently stronger than us so there's no reason for us to engage with the story anymore.
And to that, I'll say, suck it up and avoid it, so that it's not in your face. You have the option to, why complain?
No, we really don't have that option. If you want to engage with any content, you have to push the story forwards.

Also the "don't like it don't play it" argument is fucking stupid in its own right. How about if you don't like people's criticisms you don't look at them? Same logic.
"COC2 is a narrative game"
The story is not important
Does not compute.
I'm saying people are just bringing lore they don't care about, to say why their mad an NPC is sleeping with other people
I'm curious what sort of insane mental gymnastics you have to do to assume something like this.
Also of course they are a dev pet, a dev writes for them. They are their character and should strive to put in as much effort into them,
There is a clear difference between putting effort into a character and making them the super duper special OC that everybody loves and can do no wrong. Cait clearly falls into the latter. You can have an appreciation for your own characters without treating them like the second coming of Christ. There's a reason the term Mary Sue exists.
Like them, I'm expressing my opinion about how they're wrong/misleading they are. If I got to get on a high horse to push them off theirs then I'll do it.
They were never on a high horse. They stated their thoughts, weren't arrogant about it, and that's it. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, you do not have to be condescending just because you do not subscribe to their point of view. You are acting like you know them better than themselves/they are lying because they said a thing you don't agree with. Even if what they said was completely and unequivocally false, you can still have the sense to not put words in their mouth.
 

Warphorror

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Did I miss something in the elvish temple? I tried multiple run with differents corruption level but didn't found any big differences. You can fuck the dryad or kill her but once the dungeon is over it's basically the same output, the three elves have content after the dungeon if you didn't send them to the afterlife and for the wyld tree either you kill it or let the valkyries handle it but no different output or rewards. Is it right or did someone found something else?
 

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0.6.5 Patch Notes:
  • Vitra the ‘Mander Bartender has received several new sex scenes focused on femPCs — her baby momma needs some special attention. Or maybe Vitra needs some special attention from a very milky PC. Either/or!
  • If you bring Viv to Vitra’s bar, the witch can offer to teach the mander some magic. This unlocks a new sex scene between Vitra and the PC where she puts what she learned to use!
  • Prince Nyze has a new victory sex scene! (By BerrySicky)
  • The High Ground quest now has additional support for if the PC, Liaden, and Azzy are all romantic. (By Alypia)
Have they fixed Azzy's relationship yet or are we still in her and Liaden's way
 

Wrynn13

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Fair, not a fan of how you get to that point and never will be. But fair.
I probably have a very different take on the Azzy/Lia thing than most people in the thread to be honest. I don't see joining them any different than my character bringing Gia into my relationship with Bri for that threesome. To be fair I'd probably have the same reaction that others do if Azzy was chasing a male character, but not bringing one more woman into my big pile of lesbian fun.
 
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Nobody gives a fig about the story in borderlands and yet most people agree that Pre-Sequel is particularly bad in both departments
Wait, do people actually think that Pre-Sequel story was bad? I kinda felt like it was a great addition to the lore of the game. Sure, not all of the characters you engage with are as good as BL2, but in general I felt like it was good. I mostly heard about people being upset over it being a) it's typical borderlands, but everyone are Australian and b) How dare they imply that Vault Hunters, mercenaries that arrived to Pandora mostly to get rich, would do something morally questionable.
 

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I probably have a very different take on the Azzy/Lia thing than most people in the thread to be honest. I don't see joining them any different than my character bringing Gia into my relationship with Bri for that threesome. To be fair I'd probably have the same reaction that others do if Azzy was chasing a male character, but not bringing one more woman into my big pile of lesbian fun.
I feel like they could have handled it better to be honest. It should've been Liaden wanting to join in on the fun and trying to get YOUR permission instead of Azyrran making us wingman for her. What Azyrran did was, to me, the kind of thing I'd expect Cait to do, which is why I never touch her. To me it makes no difference if the character she was lusting after is male or female, it's still a weird move from the devs that they try to play as "wholesome" and "cute". It's one thing if they are already a couple to begin with which is something I wouldn't have any problems with at all. I still wouldn't bother trying to fuck any of themout of principle anyway.

This whole thing annoyed me because I could have ignored another "Cait" (not exactly as big as a slut as Cait, but you get what I mean, I hate polyamory in general) type of character. Also, I never intend to play as a female ever so there will never be any threesomes with them for me. Which leads to another problem, Liaden. Liaden is a lesbian who'll never turned on by a dick (unless you fuck up her mind with that corrupted honey, which I generally don't do despite how much her very existence annoys me). This already excludes a ton of the playerbase from her character and is almost hypocritical in design. Why? Our character, no matter what gender, no matter what gets shoved into them/they get shoved into, willingly and unwillingly, loves it without much effort or mind fuckery going on. Our sexuality is basically: YES, and we have almost no control over it. You're telling me this woman who is basically an adventurer like us, has been living in a world where most of the rape shit, sex cults, and sluttery has been happening since before even Kasyrra appeared didn't get SOME dick? Baloney. Even Arona, who prefers to fuck women has had some dick before meeting our character. I even feel the same way with Kiyoko and only male PCs getting her, but that's a whole other topic.
 
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Biostar

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Honestly I'm only excited with the P.S of this update hinting that we get Zhara the harpy wingleader to move into the wayfort
Yeah but then I remember Skow's Wayfort writing and I lose interest.
I probably have a very different take on the Azzy/Lia thing than most people in the thread to be honest. I don't see joining them any different than my character bringing Gia into my relationship with Bri for that threesome. To be fair I'd probably have the same reaction that others do if Azzy was chasing a male character, but not bringing one more woman into my big pile of lesbian fun.
You're missing the part that comes out of nowhere and dialogue keeps treating Liaden as Azzy's priority over you despite everything before and we're just suppose to accept that. Also you have to be a chick to really get involved with them (or call yourself a women without making any sort of physical change).
 

Tau_Iota

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They were never on a high horse. They stated their thoughts, weren't arrogant about it, and that's it. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, you do not have to be condescending just because you do not subscribe to their point of view. You are acting like you know them better than themselves/they are lying because they said a thing you don't agree with. Even if what they said was completely and unequivocally false, you can still have the sense to not put words in their mouth.
That's my biggest thing. Never a reason to be condescending or pretending to be better/know more than someone else. If someone states their opinion, you'll never prove that opinion wrong. Sure you can convince them to change their opinion, but opinions can never be wrong because they're never right. At the end of the day, this is a story-heavy game that asks you not to focus on the story. Which is dumb, no matter how you look at it lmao

Also "Don't like it, don't play it" is dumb when it comes to discussing sequels. If this was a new IP, it would at least make some sense because then it becomes "You're not the intended audience for this, bud." But this is a sequel, and so people who enjoyed the first one are going to express their disdain for the second one. The sequel trilogy of Star Wars wouldn't have been so hated if it wasn't standing on the shoulders of two other trilogies because there would have been no precedent for the IP. It would have been a decent, albeit a bit nonsensical, sci-fi romp through the galaxy. Instead, you got a sequel trilogy that does its best to disparage the preceding movies and characters. And fans not sticking up for what they like about an IP is how you end up with The Witcher: Blood Origin.
Wait, do people actually think that Pre-Sequel story was bad? I kinda felt like it was a great addition to the lore of the game. Sure, not all of the characters you engage with are as good as BL2, but in general I felt like it was good. I mostly heard about people being upset over it being a) it's typical borderlands, but everyone are Australian and b) How dare they imply that Vault Hunters, mercenaries that arrived to Pandora mostly to get rich, would do something morally questionable.
I don't know, I liked it too.
You're missing the part that comes out of nowhere and dialogue keeps treating Liaden as Azzy's priority over you despite everything before and we're just suppose to accept that.
That actually kinda bummed me out the first time she asked me if I'd wingman for her. It was like, "Uh... What do you mean? I've been the person sparring with you, we've cuddled, hugged, and then saved your hive together?" Like it lets you get attached with zero warning lmao Feel like it would have been handled better if they did it like Our Red String did with Alyssa and Jeremy. You get your chance to be with her, and if you pass on it she doesn't just wait around for you to change your mind. It's not even that Liaden is a lesbian, like that's fine you do you. It's that Azzyran never gives you the chance to act on your feelings that she even reciprocates until you leave the Hive. And then you're just left out in the rain, because she gets a crush on the one person you're incompatible with.

That's why, after that first time, Azzy and Liaden go for a swim. Doesn't matter how pure I'm playing or how void of content the Corrupted Hive path is, because her suddenly falling in love with Liaden is just dumb.
 

Quintilus

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> new update
> no promised snek content
Trash update, 0/10, very disapointed, goods not as described, very dissatisfied.


her suddenly falling in love with Liaden is just dumb
To be fair it COULD have sense if core cleanse would take considerable time to cleanse. Like, paladin gf stayed in hive for long time -> hornied gf spent a lot of time with her -> 'hmmmmmmmmmmm, I think paladin gf have something in her, guess I should honey her' -> hive get cleansed -> 'sorry champion bf, I like you but I also like paladin gf...would you like to have threesome???'.
 
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Deviton123

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To be fair it COULD have sense if core cleanse would take considerable time to cleanse. Like, paladin gf stayed in hive for long time -> hornied gf spent a lot of time with her -> 'hmmmmmmmmmmm, I think paladin gf have something in her, guess I should honey her' -> hive get cleansed -> 'sorry champion bf, I like you but I also like paladin gf...would you like to have threesome???'.
Yo if that were the case, I'd hate it even more. I mean, that sounds like the typical start of most IRL poly relationships (I hear about a lot of these) minus the threesome. One person some time into a relationship suddenly says they're poly, in reality, they have probably been sleeping around in secret but are tired of hiding it and want a free pass. The other person is seemingly ok with it, but actually isn't and can't leave because they are either: too attached or don't believe they can find anything better for some reason.
 

Lucky_I

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her suddenly falling in love with Liaden is just dumb.
Well for one that's how love works. Brain chemicals are serious business. Not to mention Laiden is attractive and went out of her way to help Azzy, not unlike the PC. Also let's not ignore the fact that we can have sex with Azzy right after meeting her and that's before we're even allowed to hug her. Trying to "logic" this whole deal, especially for a porn game, is futile.

Besides, at the end of the day you can just. say. no. and the whole thing is shut down. I'll never understood why it's perceived as such a big deal with people.
 

Deviton123

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Well for one that's how love works. Brain chemicals are serious business. Not to mention Laiden is attractive and went out of her way to help Azzy, not unlike the PC. Also let's not ignore the fact that we can have sex with Azzy right after meeting her and that's before we're even allowed to hug her. Trying to "logic" this whole deal, especially for a porn game, is futile.

Besides, at the end of the day you can just. say. no. and the whole thing is shut down. I'll never understood why it's perceived as such a big deal with people.
You have to understand that people are upset BECAUSE it happened. Saying "no" doesn't erase the fact that it happened.
 

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I wasn't a fan of the pre-sequel, The gist of the main story was decent but I was far less a fan of the other content such as the side quests and npcs.
 

Lucky_I

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You have to understand that people are upset BECAUSE it happened. Saying "no" doesn't erase the fact that it happened.
No, I really don't understand. It's a porn game where the entire setting and point is about sexual openness. A character ASKING you, the player that fucks around all the time as is, upfront for help to get with someone. That you can shut down entirely should you wish and nothing ever comes of it afterwards. I'd understand if she went behind your back like, I wanna say, Amily in the first CoC. But she doesn't. It's dropped.

It really seems to me that people should stop projecting onto their PC so much if something like that in a porn game can upset them. It's bordering on incel shit.
 

Tau_Iota

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Well for one that's how love works. Brain chemicals are serious business. Not to mention Laiden is attractive and went out of her way to help Azzy, not unlike the PC. Also let's not ignore the fact that we can have sex with Azzy right after meeting her and that's before we're even allowed to hug her. Trying to "logic" this whole deal, especially for a porn game, is futile.

Besides, at the end of the day you can just. say. no. and the whole thing is shut down. I'll never understood why it's perceived as such a big deal with people.
You're ignoring where I gave a much better way to implement their relationship. If we're basing her attraction to Liaden on that she "went out of her way to help Azzy" then should Azzy not turn to the player first, given we flat-out did far more? Then you could say "Well maybe Azzy has a type that Liaden fits," but that doesn't make sense either given that the PC can look exactly like Liaden. Given that the pair spent so little time together, Azzy should not be immediately chomping at the bit for a chance to date her since she isn't for you either. That's why I suggested it would be better to work it like Alyssa/Jeremy in ORS, you get your chance but if you don't show interest she'll turn her attention elsewhere. Otherwise any male-presenting PC is left wondering, "Why did I help her again?" Because it isn't like you get any worthwhile loot from the quest, or anything aside from an additional companion.
No, I really don't understand. It's a porn game where the entire setting and point is about sexual openness. A character ASKING you, the player that fucks around all the time as is, upfront for help to get with someone. That you can shut down entirely should you wish and nothing ever comes of it afterwards. I'd understand if she went behind your back like, I wanna say, Amily in the first CoC. But she doesn't. It's dropped.

It really seems to me that people should stop projecting onto their PC so much if something like that in a porn game can upset them. It's bordering on incel shit.
Assuming everyone plays the same character is the first mistake. Not everyone plays the same, banging whoever they can. An example being when I played CoC1 as a paladin and only ever slept with Amily because from my character's perspective she was really one of the only pure people left. He felt that while Tel'Adre might not have been as evil as the demons, they were still far from pure. Amily goes behind your back after you go behind her back. Tit for tat and two wrongs don't make a right, but credit for having some consequences for the PC's actions. Asking someone upfront/backwards/sideways doesn't matter. It's dumb, and it's forced. It's like any bad writing, the writer did not earn this moment. Because like I said, you could be the spitting image of Liaden and Azzy will still pick her. Doesn't make sense, as they hardly know each other. You can't assume the player sleeps around (or even that Azzy knows they do) because not everyone plays the game the same way.

And I really want to call this out but "It really seems to me that people should stop projecting onto their PC so much if something like that in a porn game can upset them. It's bordering on incel shit." is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why? Because people get attached to their characters. I'll even give you an example, God forbid people get invested in and attached to their characters, right? Vin Diesel was such an incel for having his old DnD character's name tattooed on his stomach in the movie xXx, right?

And I'm not even one of the people who get upset that characters can do things I wouldn't like them to do in other routes. I think it's silly for it to be upsetting if you're not currently on that route, but I can understand the perspective. Because it's "If Route X [Character] is capable of doing that, then doesn't that mean Route Y [Character] is also capable of doing that?" Then you have to metagame to justify why they wouldn't and say "Well Route Y [Character] wouldn't because that's not the route I'm on," which means kiss your immersion goodbye.

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