VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.11] [Cosy Creator]

[CyBeRd0g]

76 throughout the whole game? I figured it would be about 80 or 90 or so since the game started. It seemed like a lot of times with .10, and yeah, it's mostly Lucy. I guess it just feels overused to me since I feel like it's pretty common in .10

I was looking for "Mm-hm" in particular, so there might be some other "words" that you counted towards the total number. Like some "hmm-mm"'s I didn't look for.
0.10, as I understand, starts with Day 24, so you can see the log and what I counted for yourself (.10 is lines 32400+).

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Then again "overused" is a relative thing. I think it's fine till it starts to sound retarded. And it depends on one's personal sensitivities ofc. Lucy sounds... well... at least acceptable to me. As pretty much everyone I can think of in this game. So I give you an example from AHITR, which I'm sure you at least tried as well, just to make a point about personal sensitivities. I mean if you compare Lucy to Caitlin-the-retard (sorry) the idiot (sorry again) the ever-stuttering-knows-enough-to-be-dangerous "genius"... I mean that kind of "dialog" was one of the things that totally ruined the character and the game that I used to like a lot. Sorry about the rant. As I mentioned, it's personal. Peace.
Again, I would say I really like Vicky's Mm-hm's, at least the ones I could recall. Those were VERY meaningful mm-hm's at times, weren't they?
Lucy, as I understand, is meant to sound shy and doubtful due to over a decade(!) of abuse, but she's getting better, isn't she?
Aaaanyway, statistically speaking it looks fine to me, and as far as my perception goes, I DO notice such things, but overall it's still within margins to me. But it's my #1 game on this site so far, so I might be biased. Also, you might be more sensitive to Lucy's dialogues, as my favourite girl is Akavicky (or was it Vickytsuki?). Hmmm.... Mmm-hm

 

[jvbatman]

Maybe they're all just big Crash Test Dummies fans.

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[MAGO-DAG]

Well, it was a nice surprise to

Spoiler: appear in another game.

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[Deleted member 7758600]

Well, it was a nice surprise to

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Looks like "That New Teacher." If it is, I might just download that to see this one thing

EDIT: Holy Shit!! LUCY!!! That's such a nice little scene with her and her pink phone.

 

[DrSoong]

thought the channel they were in was publicly available, my bad if not.

No harm done, when posting stuff from Discord i usually post only one picture to encourage people to support Cosy and eventually join the Discord (and, unless someone adds the remaining pics i intend to post them at least 24 hours later).

 

[Lurker452]

Looks like "That New Teacher." If it is, I might just download that to see this one thing

EDIT: Holy Shit!! LUCY!!! That's such a nice little scene with her and her pink phone.

Is this with Cozy Creator's permission???

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Is this with Cozy Creator's permission???

The developer of the game That New advertises all the games in each update, there appear different characters with different avn's.

I'm sure that this one was with the Cozy resolution, because those who appear there mean that the developers like these games.

 

[Cosy Creator]

Is this with Cozy Creator's permission???

Yup. Rogue (the dev) is a great guy. I don't tend to network with other devs very much, but he's one of the good one's I've come across - always willing to help out.

 

[Alandir]

It's going to be interesting to see what kind of past trauma justifies her irrational and obsessive behaviour. Also, while the MC has been very patient and nurturing so far, I wonder if he's going to be more coercive with her considering the extremes she is willing to go to and their strong enmity. Even Catherine is being progressively bent to his will, but Rachel seems like someone who would require breaking first if she's going to become a love interest.

Concerning Rachel, I'm not sure that is necessarily true. It could go that way, but I doubt it and it's not exactly in mc's character. Given that she got aroused finding mc and lucy in the act and didn't interrupt them, I suspect that she has a fetish for that sort of play, but also some kind of trauma associated with it. So she is aroused by it and hates herself for being aroused by it and she channels that self-hatred by lashing out at the people around her.
That way her route would be more about her dealing with her trauma and accepting who she is and reconciling with the people she pushed away.

 

[Konrad Simon]

It will certainly be interesting to see. It may be that Rachel has some past trauma or event, but most of the Rachels I've been in contact with just sort of picked it up by osmosis. Could go either way.

 

[Scarecrow13]

"Sarah's sister looks good, but we all know she is currently a scorpion, and petting will invite a nasty sting!"

Is she, though? Okay, yes, she is...but is it her personality, or is it her fighting for a spot? She's in fierce competition. She's an older sister, with more expectations. she's in rivalry with not just her other sisters, but other older daughters. That's gotta be intense pressure. And let's be honest - Sarah probably wasn't very warm in return. But Sarah got 'let off the hook', so to speak, with no expectations, while the intense pressure continues for Mira.

I'm not trying to excuse it, but I just feel she's much more affable than some of the genuinely cruel characters, such as Mika and even Catherine as originally portrayed. And oh-so-eager to please. Both of which make her a good candidate for some of MC's, ah, 'corrective' talents.

My concern would be how it would be handled with Sarah. That was a pretty emotional scene. But where there's emotion and hurt, there's also some room for healing.

 

[Scarecrow13]

I'm on the final day of what's most likely going to be my last run before the update gets released, but as a curious little thing, has anyone counted the amount of "mm-hm" said by all of the girls in just the .10 update alone?

Seems to be more than the rest of the game so far combined.

I've never really noticed it. What messes with me is how nobody ever opens their mouth. Not a big deal at all, but when I fast-skip through a lot of content on a replay or searching for a scene, it stands out.

 

[Deleted member 7758600]

I've never really noticed it. What messes with me is how nobody ever opens their mouth. Not a big deal at all, but when I fast-skip through a lot of content on a replay or searching for a scene, it stands out.

Yeah that always struck me with this game, and if the girls ever do open their mouths it's usually just for a smile or something small. Most other VNs, Daz especially, there's much more variation with the facial expressions, the curvature of the hands and feet and what not, but HS2-based games there's not much of that. Haven't played many HS2 VNs; just this, Ripples, and Harem Hotel

 

[Scarecrow13]

Edit - I was wrong! Flipping through scenes, I found one where Elizabeth's mouth is slightly open in a grin!

I also forgot that she flipped off her mom at the meeting. Both of which cement Elizabeth as one of my favorites, and climbing (helped also by being the hottest one in the game). But I'm sure Akari can handle her. The Force of Horny Nature can take all comers.

 

[Deleted member 7758600]

Edit - I was wrong! Flipping through scenes, I found one where Elizabeth's mouth is slightly open in a grin!

I also forgot that she flipped off her mom at the meeting. Both of which cement Elizabeth as one of my favorites, and climbing (helped also by being the hottest one in the game). But I'm sure Akari can handle her. The Force of Horny Nature can take all comers.

But they're minor changes, nothing like the changes in Daz-based VNs

 

[Scarecrow13]

Yeah that always struck me with this game, and if the girls ever do open their mouths it's usually just for a smile or something small. Most other VNs, Daz especially, there's much more variation with the facial expressions, the curvature of the hands and feet and what not, but HS2-based games there's not much of that. Haven't played many HS2 VNs; just this, Ripples, and Harem Hotel

Yeah, I don't see it as a problem; more an idiosyncracy of the game. The characters are highly expressive even without - a big plus to the creator.

 

[shitass1001]

"Sarah's sister looks good, but we all know she is currently a scorpion, and petting will invite a nasty sting!"

Is she, though? Okay, yes, she is...but is it her personality, or is it her fighting for a spot? She's in fierce competition. She's an older sister, with more expectations. she's in rivalry with not just her other sisters, but other older daughters. That's gotta be intense pressure. And let's be honest - Sarah probably wasn't very warm in return. But Sarah got 'let off the hook', so to speak, with no expectations, while the intense pressure continues for Mira.

I'm not trying to excuse it, but I just feel she's much more affable than some of the genuinely cruel characters, such as Mika and even Catherine as originally portrayed. And oh-so-eager to please. Both of which make her a good candidate for some of MC's, ah, 'corrective' talents.

My concern would be how it would be handled with Sarah. That was a pretty emotional scene. But where there's emotion and hurt, there's also some room for healing.

I dont think Mira is a terrible person, but her and the other older sisters bullying seems to be a large part of where Sarah's body issues stem from.
We get one example of their bullying in the game so far, and its fair to say it affects Sarah to her core

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Sarah clearly has walls up that cause her to act generally rude to people, maybe save for lucy, and yet one singular interaction with her older sisters causes her much strife. To me, this would indicate that this "little boy" insult is one they have been using for some time. Not to mention they are her sisters, her insults were playground level, they went straight for the throat.

That isn't to say that Sarah is a good person and Mira isn't. Sarah writing "slut" on Victoria's face, while knowing its a moniker Victoria doesn't like. She is effectively doing the same thing as her sisters, just on a smaller scale.

I certainly dont doubt the pressure aspect, and that definitely excuses SOME of Mira's actions, for instance the conversation she has with the Mc in the most recent update:

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This conversation shows the pressure she is under, and how the founding family teachings have affected her. She was taught to see other people her age as a threat, to always think about power dynamics and manipulations. Her thinking that her sister was the one who set the whole thing up isn't a normal thing that a normal person would think, it shows how her mind has been altered by her higher standings in the family.

I think the important thing to remember is that due to how the hierarchies of the families work, Sarah was not a threat to Mira at all for her entire life, Mira is an older sister of one of the earlier wives, and Sarah is the youngest of the 4th wife. So what would Mira stand to gain by bullying Sarah? Sarah was effectively a non player in the founding family crap until the MC arrived, Mira's actions towards her cannot be explained or excused by founding family pressures.

I think Mira could be redeemed, but in this VN? probably not, it doesn't seem like that's the angle Cosy is going for (but my predictions have been wrong countless times for this VN so who knows).

 

[Scarecrow13]

I think Mira could be redeemed, but in this VN? probably not, it doesn't seem like that's the angle Cosy is going for (but my predictions have been wrong countless times for this VN so who knows).

Well, she's one of the four girls in the teaser Side Girl pics, is why I've thought of it. And she seems less mean than Blonde Half-Sis. And while the teasing's got a lot of history, I believe there was mention that she's had augmentation surgery. And while that might be a positive for some, there's still an underlying message of "You are nothing but a Sex Asset to be bartered". And she probably had under-development issues herself.

And yet, here is her younger sister who didn't get subject to the same costs, scoring the most eligible bachelor. (although she didn't know it until later).

 

[Deleted member 7758600]

Well, she's one of the four girls in the teaser Side Girl pics, is why I've thought of it. And she seems less mean than Blonde Half-Sis. And while the teasing's got a lot of history, I believe there was mention that she's had augmentation surgery. And while that might be a positive for some, there's still an underlying message of "You are nothing but a Sex Asset to be bartered". And she probably had under-development issues herself.

And yet, here is her younger sister who didn't get subject to the same costs, scoring the most eligible bachelor. (although she didn't know it until later).

I know Lily had breast implants, I don't think either of the half-sisters have

 

[vsvsx92]

I dont think Mira is a terrible person, but her and the other older sisters bullying seems to be a large part of where Sarah's body issues stem from.
We get one example of their bullying in the game so far, and its fair to say it affects Sarah to her core

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Sarah clearly has walls up that cause her to act generally rude to people, maybe save for lucy, and yet one singular interaction with her older sisters causes her much strife. To me, this would indicate that this "little boy" insult is one they have been using for some time. Not to mention they are her sisters, her insults were playground level, they went straight for the throat.

That isn't to say that Sarah is a good person and Mira isn't. Sarah writing "slut" on Victoria's face, while knowing its a moniker Victoria doesn't like. She is effectively doing the same thing as her sisters, just on a smaller scale.

I certainly dont doubt the pressure aspect, and that definitely excuses SOME of Mira's actions, for instance the conversation she has with the Mc in the most recent update:

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This conversation shows the pressure she is under, and how the founding family teachings have affected her. She was taught to see other people her age as a threat, to always think about power dynamics and manipulations. Her thinking that her sister was the one who set the whole thing up isn't a normal thing that a normal person would think, it shows how her mind has been altered by her higher standings in the family.

I think the important thing to remember is that due to how the hierarchies of the families work, Sarah was not a threat to Mira at all for her entire life, Mira is an older sister of one of the earlier wives, and Sarah is the youngest of the 4th wife. So what would Mira stand to gain by bullying Sarah? Sarah was effectively a non player in the founding family crap until the MC arrived, Mira's actions towards her cannot be explained or excused by founding family pressures.

I think Mira could be redeemed, but in this VN? probably not, it doesn't seem like that's the angle Cosy is going for (but my predictions have been wrong countless times for this VN so who knows).

Did you name yourself "Pickle Rick"?