Never underestimate horny gamers who do or do not use the MC to self-insert
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shitass1001
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what no update does to a thread
Very. And on a net forum it is easy to imagine that showing stupidity has no consequences.
HiHaHo
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but not us eh?
but since were doing it:
if you decide or not you consider the MC a jerk or not comes down to how you think someone ought to interact with others morality wise
Do you put others(mainly strangers) opinions/needs above your own & those close to you?
if you think the mc should change what hes says to avoid possibly hurting some strangers feelings or not:
The MC should do that! = yes he's a jerk
he should do it if its little or no effort/cost! = the mc is a jerk sometimes
no the MC should no change his opinions/actions to cuddle some strangers feelings = no the MC isn't a jerk
of course there are situations where it does make sense to call the MC a jerk:
After the rachel photo in the office scene,he gropes & teases cathrine in the classroom with rachel present.
here hes basicly using the leverage off their deal to not bother the MC & his girls anymore to do something he actually shouldn't be doing in the classroom.
which IMO is a jerk move.
But no in general i don't find the MC to be a "jerk" he has his moments but nobody's perfect.
In general hes been honest & fair even kind, people just have issue's with the HOW because to them that is more important then the action itself.
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To be clear, I'm not just referring to the people who don't think much of the MC.
Those who make a big deal about other people liking different things (like different character traits in an MC) are just as bad.
People have different opinions...That's a good thing. Accept it.
jadepaladin
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I'd rather the MC be a jerk from time to time than the typical dense harem protagonist you see in anime.
Yep agree on this one. We can see this with Allison, the baker and Allison's/Hannah's father whenever he's treated with respect he returns that respect.
I honestly don't see a problem being uncouth / unequivocal in response to being spoken to in a confrontational way. Since when is following "tit for tat" whenever you interact with strangers a jerkish thing to do. (Don't forget Mr. Takamura where he goes a bit southpark with him
)People bring up the Rachel scene in the cafe but easily omit she was the first one to be confrontational with the MC. After all the shit she is giving the MC it is quite natural to shut her off.
Just take the position of MC and imagine what you would do if the girl from school who constantly annoys and harasses you comes into your cafe demanding to talk to you.
HiHaHo
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yeah they pushed it to much, best way to go about it is: everyone ought to be nice but you don't have,and you ought not to if its untrue or dishonest,but again don't have to.
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Never be humble to the haughty, never be haughty to the humble. I can't remember who said that, but I like it.
BigCosyStoryFan
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I could write a long post on this, but I don't really want to open a can of worms.
The MC shows respect to people in a position of authority and/or power. That tempers when he gets to know them, and he redraws his behavioural norms around it. Take Allison out of her position, and his respect towards her drops (until he gets to know her).
He's 18. He's just lost the last member of his family (his mother is, at least as far as we know, not coming back). He's just uprooted himself and moved across the country. He's vulnerable, overly trusting, and has, through the chosen style (anime and manga derivative), had these parts of himself expanded out in unrealistic ways/to unrealistic proportions. (It's about as realistic as the girls falling for him more or less as soon as he spanks them once.) I'm not saying him being a jerk is justified, but he does jerk people around, act in the interests of himself and 'what's his' (the girls, as he 'claims' them), and is domineering. Given his past, and the style used in extrapolating him from draft form, none of this should be a surprise. But I absolutely agree that it's better than the standard 'build a harem by unzipping your pants' approach taken in other stories and games; there's a reason that, even though parts of it annoy me, I'm still reading my way through this when it updates.
It doesn't mean people are going to like his actions, or how his relationships form. We're 26 days in, and by the end of the first month he's likely to have four girlfriends. Most of us know that, particularly at that age, a relationship can easily form in a week, but most of us would probably not jump into one the same he has (even if we stripped away all of the potential consequences). It means anyone trying to self-insert, or holding onto certain aspects of conflict within the story universe, is going to struggle. (I'm not ashamed to say that I'm one who is hung up on certain early story conflicts, but I can get over them after they're explained.)
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WTF nice and doormat type of mcs people are after now? don't know WTF these people are smoking but where can i get some see if i go off my rocker too
Thats a great quote.
And kudos for being humble by pretending you don't remember who said it. Is that intended as irony?
If it is, I'd expect a long wait for a short answer.Is that intended as irony?
MaxRichard
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4 words no value...
Personally, I think this one of the best, coolest and nicest MC I've seen in AVNs so far. Haven't played maybe a lot of AVNs like some of the people here, but still... I think he is fair in his interactions with the other characters. As in nice to those who were nice to him and maybe not so nice to those who treated him the same way. I remember his interactions whit Vicky in the beginning before she became his 2nd LI (just an example). Be nice to me and I'll be nice to you. Act like an idiot and you'll be treated as such.
Apart from that, I just wanna say a big THANK YOU! to Cosy Creator for such a masterpiece! I love it all: intriguing and smart story, beautiful girls and a wonderful game overall! Also Thank you BaasB and all the f95zone staff! Wish you all the best and God's speed!
(can't wait for the next update!)
Apart from that, I just wanna say a big THANK YOU! to Cosy Creator for such a masterpiece! I love it all: intriguing and smart story, beautiful girls and a wonderful game overall! Also Thank you BaasB and all the f95zone staff! Wish you all the best and God's speed!
(can't wait for the next update!)
The dev log - status of the next update - is posted here every two weeks, with the next dev log getting published later today.
The next update will cover 2 full days and will be a very large update (render count/animation count is unknown at this time but the script is ~ 31,000 words - or 20% larger than v 0.11 which is the latest release).
Cosy gave a rough estimate of a release in late April/early May.
I like exercise but exercising patience - not so much - yet here we are...
There have been a number of releases for other AVNs on F95 in the first half of March and I am off to enjoy some of those while Cosy builds the next release for this quite enjoyable AVN.
Cheers!!