VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.13.1 EA] [Cosy Creator]

[gorgetoflinen]

I guess the ticket book could be 500, but that seems a bit large. Here are the factors of 500, so these are some of the possibilities that would still make it work:

(1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20), 25, 50, 100, 125, 250, 500

 

[Juerhullycin]

I guess the ticket book could be 500, but that seems a bit large. Here are the factors of 500, so these are some of the possibilities that would still make it work:

(1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20), 25, 50, 100, 125, 250, 500

i would say 250

lets say the cafe has 15 tables ( i think in the training scene there is talk about table 11?) people spend around 1 our per meal at the cafe that would be 15 tickets per hour if MC keeps the shop open for 10h a day that's 150 tickets a day for 3 days thats around 450 tickets total, if we account for people only ordering coffee and deserts lets say they stay 30min i wouldn't go higher than 300 a day tho. you also want to have more tickets than too few so i would go with the 250 tickets per book.
The ticket books i worked with (admittedly very limited experience) were around palm size and as thick as a finger. They are easily concealable and fit in a pant pocket. It's not like you want your server running around with a big ledger.

 

[shitass1001]

I was so sure it was Rachel, but these recent talks have made me question things. The idea that she hid it somewhere in or around the cafe before snooping further could hold some water, but to me it suggests a level of subterfuge that I dont really associate with Rachel, she is usually headstrong and very bold with her accusations. The most sneaky thing we have seen her do is taking the picture of MC and Hannah, and also spying on MC and Lucy when they were in the club room.

I suppose a counter argument to that would be that Rachel knows just barging in and being a nuisance hasn't gotten her anywhere in the past, so maybe she knows she has to try a little cloak-and-dagger in order to get her way.

Another point, someone who has the foresight to think "I will hide this in case I get caught" would probably also have the sense to check if her phones flash was on, and would also take a video. You could say that she wasn't thinking straight because she was "behind enemy lines" while snooping so maybe the flash thing is a little understandable, but it still doesn't sit right with me.

It's possible she had it in a pocket, if the ticket books are as small as some have said. But lets say it was in a back pocket, I know HS2 doesn't really have the ability to render a bulge in the pocket that would indicate something is in it, but wouldn't the MC be looking at Rachel as she walked away? Even if we the reader couldnt see it surely the MC would notice something. and the missing pocket book would be on his mind in that moment too, so if he did notice something then he would probably say it. If it was in her side pocket then that would be a problem, much harder to see, and if MC did notice it in a side pocket then he would probably assume its her wallet.

I am so excited for this multi-update mystery to be revealed hopefully in the coming update

 

[Juerhullycin]

Even if we the reader couldnt see it surely the MC would notice something. and the missing pocket book would be on his mind in that moment too, so if he did notice something then he would probably say it. If it was in her side pocket then that would be a problem, much harder to see, and if MC did notice it in a side pocket then he would probably assume its her wallet.

before i got to the end of this paragraph i thought so what even if she had it in her pocket he would have no reason not to think it was her wallet. Maybe that's projection because i have my wallet always in my back pocket.

On the other side the MC with all his qualities isn't Sherlock Holmes, even if it was Rachel, why should he make that connection there are at least 2 people that are more suspect right now. Also from the situation they were in he had other, bigger problems. His first reaction is to call the other girls to secure himself against false allegations, i would bet money that the tickets were nowhere on his mind at that moment.

if you hear the sound of hooves your first thought isn't that of zebras, but horses. Rachel was there to get dirt on him about his alleged abuse of the girls. I'm sure that this will be wrong and not at all her motivation when we get to it but that is what I in his shoes would think more so in the heat of the moment.

 

[swmeek]

You know there could also be the possibility of someone else taking the ticket book who ate a bunch of food and acted like they were sick at their stomach and ran out of the cafe because they had it hidden on their person.
Someone who could be acting like a total ditz just to get them to think she's not capable of such subterfuge !

 

[jvbatman]

Or Cosy just didn't add the ticket book to the scene.

When they go shopping and buy Lucy a new outfit she wears out of the store, she isn't carrying any bags that have her old clothes. Are you assuming she just threw them all away? Or is it more plausible that Cosy just didn't feel it was relevant to add to the scene?

 

[TBone9]

Or Cosy just didn't add the ticket book to the scene.

When they go shopping and buy Lucy a new outfit she wears out of the store, she isn't carrying any bags that have her old clothes. Are you assuming she just threw them all away? Or is it more plausible that Cosy just didn't feel it was relevant to add to the scene?

They go into that parallel universe that exists in all animated works, where cartoon characters pull comically large objects out of.

 

[Juerhullycin]

You know there could also be the possibility of someone else taking the ticket book who ate a bunch of food and acted like they were sick at their stomach and ran out of the cafe because they had it hidden on their person.
Someone who could be acting like a total ditz just to get them to think she's not capable of such subterfuge !

yeah that's one of the two i mentioned before who are far more suspicious than Rachel of stealing the book.

i just jumped into the discussion yesterday, has anybody given a reason why Rachel should steal the tickets in the first place? Because i see no way she could use it? She has no motive i could think of that would make sense.

 

[CyBeRd0g]

she isn't carrying any bags that have her old clothes. Are you assuming she just threw them all away?

Rental lockers perhaps?

 

[MalLiz]

They go into that parallel universe that exists in all animated works, where cartoon characters pull comically large objects out of.

Fun fact: That's actually called "

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-Mal

 

[shitass1001]

Or Cosy just didn't add the ticket book to the scene.

When they go shopping and buy Lucy a new outfit she wears out of the store, she isn't carrying any bags that have her old clothes. Are you assuming she just threw them all away? Or is it more plausible that Cosy just didn't feel it was relevant to add to the scene?

That's possible, I guess part of me just thinks there would be some indication of its existence because its an important detail, like Lucy's clothes in that scene aren't an important mystery in the game, the pocket book is. I feel like it would require some sort of detail to be added.

"Or is it more plausible that Cosy just didn't feel it was relevant to add to the scene?" that's definitely more plausible, but theory crafting is part of the fun on these threads, I like reading FAR too deep into the characters to try to divine what will happen before it happens

 

[swmeek]

yeah that's one of the two i mentioned before who are far more suspicious than Rachel of stealing the book.

i just jumped into the discussion yesterday, has anybody given a reason why Rachel should steal the tickets in the first place? Because i see no way she could use it? She has no motive i could think of that would make sense.

Maybe she has no reason YET because we don't know her full back story .

 

[Juerhullycin]

Maybe she has no reason YET because we don't know her full back story .

all we know about her points to that she has no motive period, not just yet. But if you have any clues from the game i'm open to hear them. But i dont see it even less with the meta knowledge we have about her from what Cosy told us.

 

[Powerack]

WTF is this game about? Cooking in café, having some big boobed maids as "girlfriends" and few others just for fun. Yes, I understand that. No big deal, harem games are fun after all. But what I can't understand is this: most of the ineractions with Akatsuki is just simple "Hm.". The fuck is that sentence? You speaking in "Hm." too?

 

[packor]

But what I can't understand is this: most of the ineractions with Akatsuki is just simple "Hm.". The fuck is that sentence? You speaking in "Hm." too?

The f you want from a cat?

Actually, now that I think about it, maybe Cosy means "mm", which is actually a Chinese affirmative expression.

 

[jI11jaCksjAkk]

Maybe she has no reason YET because we don't know her full back story .

Definitely, maybe. (Back off, Gallaghers!) Or maybe it's just more of the same impulse of hers to try and disrupt MC in any way possible, logic be damned. I think it's definitely rooted in something we don't know yet, but I find it odd that multiple posters have said she has no motive...when her entire story so far has been 100% causing trouble for MC whenever possible. Clearly she has a motive, we just don't know what ti is yet (or whether it is a conscious or unconscious one either)

But what I can't understand is this: most of the ineractions with Akatsuki is just simple "Hm.". The fuck is that sentence? You speaking in "Hm." too?

She's a neko. What part of that is hard for you to understand?

 

[Juerhullycin]

Clearly she has a motive, we just don't know what ti is yet

or she has non. that works both ways.

but I find it odd that multiple posters have said she has no motive...when her entire story so far has been 100% causing trouble for MC whenever possible.

she is a miserable cow high on feminist bullshit, that doesn't make her a thief. And I don't get were you get her Vendetta against the MC from? She is a cow to everyone.

There is not a single day Alison hasn't to deal with her shit.

That she tries to sneak a picture from what MC and Hanna are doing is pretty sure rooted in her kinks more so than anything else. That's also why she doesn't get a word out when she tries to talk to the MC at school a few days later.

Committing a crime to annoy someone.

logic be damned.

that summarizes your post pretty well, bravo for the self awareness.

 

[duckydoodoo]

i think the thief is as likely one of the other girls as it is rachel. everyone seems to want something from him, and getting that favor is something they all could want. i mean could even be lucy being a lil cheeky and thinking of something a bit selfish(even more likely vic to do something like that), and not realizing the problems it would cause wind up stuck in what do i do now situation. in fact, MC wasnt too keen on a zero rule favor being offered without his prior consent, one of the girls might have thought they were doing him a favor by hiding the book so he would never have to pay up, only to realize it would make him look like his word was no good in the end.

basically all speculation. the why could as likely be something simple as something sinister, how its resolved is likely way more important to the story line regardless.

i think its funny how the rachel hate makes her a lot of peoples prime candidate. i actually have zero thoughts on who dun it, just enjoying the fun, in thread and the game.

 

[Powerack]

The f you want from a cat?

You say cat, but Catgirl is the right word and the one used in game, too. So of course that they can talk. That's the only reason why I've even posted it. It's just annoying that almost all her responses are simple "Hm." that you cat take however you want.

 

[S1nsational]

As interesting as speculation on who took the ticket book is, I think something that's too often overlooked is 'what for?'.

Like yes obviously, the winner gets a favor from a Family Head, but what would they ask MC for?

Most people don't know how powerless MC actually is, like the guy who wanted MCs help getting a lawyer for his parents.

If it's someone who doesn't know MCs situation, then stealing the book implies desperation, this is their one chance at a miracle even if they know cheating like this could anger the family they're about to ask a favor of. So chances are, whatever they ask for won't be malicious, or otherwise be anything that could damage MC even if in the end MC can't actually grant the wish.

But if it's someone who knows MCs situation, then the favor is likely to be of a much more political sort, and thus far more likely to be potentially malicious, or otherwise something that could damage MC should he grant it.

Rachel is often touted as a possible thief, so the interesting question is what would make her so desperate for a family heads favor that she would steal from a man she actively hates? What would make her desperate enough to trust him?

A family issue? But we haven't seen or heard anything about her family, not that this couldn't be how we're introduced to them.

Most of The Families are unlikely to be involved.
Sarah's family don't need to steal a favor, believing Sarah has him firmly on their said.
Hannah and Alison's family is headed by a man rigidly devoted to the greater good and honor. Unlikely to commission a theft.
Catherine's family aren't very politically motivated. Her father, the head, is a kind man and Catherine's brother the next head is supposed to take after him. Catherine's mother already jumped ship back to her brothers family.
Brian's family are the type of stoop to underhanded means, but I feel his mother would find stealing this book to gain a favor childish and beneath her. Besides it would be an acknowledgment of MCs status which she tried to prevent him gaining. Besides, the favor lottery was hardly secret, MC suddenly granting her a favor, would be too public a move for her.

I do think Brain himself, acting on his own could have gotten someone to steal the book for him. His favor would probably be something aimed at humiliating or otherwise harming MC