Meiri

Well-Known Member
Nov 1, 2019
1,238
2,236
397
Considering Cosy has been explicitly pointing out her reactions as different from Mika and Brain's - she is probably gonna switch sides at one point or another. But yeah, I felt bad for her too - she did have one of the better outfits and in general has been completely inoffensive so far. But at the same time, the only two people who might have had the inclination to put a good word for her weren't judging (Vicky and Hannah). Personally I think, that if she was Mika 2.0, Vicky would have kicked her ass out and wouldn't have even let her compete, but that's just me.
Tbf the entire contest was clearly rigged which is understandable because of the final prize, but I wish it could have been more genuine because there were good costumes like Sarah's maid who would have been my winner.
 

Mark Loring

Member
Mar 20, 2025
110
175
53
Also, even putting aside whether she's a good person or not... giving her a couple points wasn't gonna place her on the podium. You can begrudgingly give her a 1 or a 2 for genuine effort and she won't come anywhere close to an actual prize. I think that's largely the point people are making.
I agree on making the point, but think about what Chloe's very slow defection would do to Brian and Mika. Vicky had to do it because she wanted something (the job) but if Chloe, out of her own motivations, wanted to try to break away from them, it would shock them both and it would only leave them with each other.

Curious as to which side branch of a Family she's from. I hope we find out. Leaving Mika alone with Brian would suit them since they deserve each other. I have a feeling Chloe is trying to put forward an olive branch.
 
Nov 8, 2023
63
206
142
She was a bitch to Lucy & Vicky in the beginning, but so was Catherine (and initially Vicky), and look how that turned out.
I'd imagine that their behavior goes back much further than that before the MC showed up in town. But between Mika, Catherine, Chloe and Vicky I think Mika was the worst by far.
Only Vicky has apologized to Lucy so far. If Chloe wants to get anywhere near the harem she would need to do at least that. I don't think she will ever be more than background character tho, but her peeling away from Brian would be sweet for sure... We already saw less and less of her with Brian and Mika before she showed up at the goth competition. Maybe you're on to something here?
 

Mark Loring

Member
Mar 20, 2025
110
175
53
I'd imagine that their behavior goes back much further than that before the MC showed up in town. But between Mika, Catherine, Chloe and Vicky I think Mika was the worst by far.
Only Vicky has apologized to Lucy so far. If Chloe wants to get anywhere near the harem she would need to do at least that. I don't think she will ever be more than background character tho, but her peeling away from Brian would be sweet for sure... We already saw less and less of her with Brian and Mika before she showed up at the goth competition. Maybe you're on to something here?
You make a point. Catherine has never apologized to Lucy or Victoria, well, she did, but it was half-assed with Vicky basically shrugging her off. I think if she did it now, there would be more feeling behind it.
 

hameleona

Member
Oct 27, 2018
364
866
234
I'd imagine that their behavior goes back much further than that before the MC showed up in town. But between Mika, Catherine, Chloe and Vicky I think Mika was the worst by far.
Only Vicky has apologized to Lucy so far. If Chloe wants to get anywhere near the harem she would need to do at least that. I don't think she will ever be more than background character tho, but her peeling away from Brian would be sweet for sure... We already saw less and less of her with Brian and Mika before she showed up at the goth competition. Maybe you're on to something here?
I mean, it's not like we have seen much of Chloe, period :D
We have one scene where she speaks and it's mean girl bs, mostly to Victoria (and, by the way, I wonder what those rumors about her a few months ago were? It's never explored upon). After that is her mostly looking surprised/shocked - not a lot to go on. But Cosy has been pretty pedantic of setting up facial expressions and body language, I think he meant to convey she is thinking about stuff.
That said, I'm pretty sure she ain't joining the harem. There is a list floating around with all the Main LIs (those who will get collars), semi-main LIs (major role, but no collar) and side chicks and I think Chloe is in the third category. Granted, I'm pretty sure Annabelle wasn't in any of them or was in the last group initially, so, Cosy is not above promoting a fan favorite :D
 

HiHaHo

Engaged Member
Jan 2, 2023
2,602
4,030
387
You make a point. Catherine has never apologized to Lucy or Victoria, well, she did, but it was half-assed with Vicky basically shrugging her off. I think if she did it now, there would be more feeling behind it.
eehh i do think it wasn't a genuine apology but its not like she's had the time to actually get to know lucy like vicky has.
they are also way different,honestly i think if lucy and cathrine spend some time together we could some decent changes and a real apology.
 

hameleona

Member
Oct 27, 2018
364
866
234
eehh i do think it wasn't a genuine apology but its not like she's had the time to actually get to know lucy like vicky has.
they are also way different,honestly i think if lucy and cathrine spend some time together we could some decent changes and a real apology.
I wonder how would she (Catherine) react, when she learns it was Lucy, who was the only person batting for the MC to even give her any thought? Everybody else (MC included) was firmly in the "Fuck that bitch" camp.
 

Paynne

Active Member
Oct 31, 2018
623
10,962
711
Great update, Catherine is slowly but surely becoming my favorite. At first I didn't care about her because she was a bitch, but when she shows her softer side I feel like just holding her. I'm also loving her kinkier and flirty side.
 

shitass1001

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2021
1,200
5,021
656
Has this game always had such close ups during conversation? I've never noticed it before but now I'm wondering because once you see it, it almost becomes this game's signiture. I don't think I've seen it in any other AVN and it's really cool.

It caught my attention this update during the outfit contest while the MC talks with Catherine. A lot of the shots of Catherine are taken from where the MC's head realistically is. This close distance combined with a the narrower FOV of media rather than the eyeball results in an almost "Oblivion zoom" effect, where Catherine's head takes up nearly the entire frame.

I'm guessing (with no actual knowledge I should add), that most devs see this happen when they first go to render, decide they don't like it, and add some 'space' to the shot by actually taking it from further back than where the MC's POV truly is.

If this is true and it is a deliberate decision on Cosy's part to not do that but instead stay true to the MC's POV, then I really like that. It feels a lot more personal which works well with the more intimate conversations.

Of course, I could also be entirely wrong which would be rather embarassing after four paragraphs.
Finally someone else notices the closeups, they are one of my favourtie parts of this game. The writing feels so much more intimate while reading than any other game I have played
 

Mark Loring

Member
Mar 20, 2025
110
175
53
I mean, it's not like we have seen much of Chloe, period :D
We have one scene where she speaks and it's mean girl bs, mostly to Victoria (and, by the way, I wonder what those rumors about her a few months ago were? It's never explored upon). After that is her mostly looking surprised/shocked - not a lot to go on. But Cosy has been pretty pedantic of setting up facial expressions and body language, I think he meant to convey she is thinking about stuff.
That said, I'm pretty sure she ain't joining the harem. There is a list floating around with all the Main LIs (those who will get collars), semi-main LIs (major role, but no collar) and side chicks and I think Chloe is in the third category. Granted, I'm pretty sure Annabelle wasn't in any of them or was in the last group initially, so, Cosy is not above promoting a fan favorite :D
I'm not saying she's joining the harem, but she can just be a friend, at least an ally. I think she's starting to realize how much the MC really cares about his girls, and maybe she's realizing how miserable Brian and Mika always are. She could be tired of dealing with it. If Brian is always ranting about the MC, and Chloe's around to hear it, she could be tired of it.

Like I said, I think she's trying to put an olive branch out there. She can just be a friend, at least an acquaintance. Catherine has come a long way. Chloe might've noticed that.
 

shitass1001

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2021
1,200
5,021
656
I'm not saying she's joining the harem, but she can just be a friend, at least an ally. I think she's starting to realize how much the MC really cares about his girls, and maybe she's realizing how miserable Brian and Mika always are. She could be tired of dealing with it. If Brian is always ranting about the MC, and Chloe's around to hear it, she could be tired of it.

Like I said, I think she's trying to put an olive branch out there. She can just be a friend, at least an acquaintance. Catherine has come a long way. Chloe might've noticed that.
I like this idea, the small amount that we have seen Chloe and she already has more development than Mika and Brian who we have seen more. I think she should become a friend of the group, maybe she is noticing how much happier Vicky is with the Cafe group. She has stuff to apologize for, but so did Vicky.
 

Mark Loring

Member
Mar 20, 2025
110
175
53
I like this idea, the small amount that we have seen Chloe and she already has more development than Mika and Brian who we have seen more. I think she should become a friend of the group, maybe she is noticing how much happier Vicky is with the Cafe group. She has stuff to apologize for, but so did Vicky.
As did Catherine, even though she didn't really mean it at the time.
 
Dec 14, 2023
69
195
53
Just got done playing the most recent update finally and goddamn do I find Annabelle just perfect. All of the main girls are amazing in my opinion, there isn't a weak link in the whole bunch, but I'm really looking forward to Annabelle getting more involved and joining the other girlfriends. Praying there isn't some "she was secretly forced to spy for blah blah family" shit. Just let me enjoy this adorably clumsy sweetheart who wanted a new friend.
 

torpedogoat

Member
May 24, 2024
229
507
179
Just got done playing the most recent update finally and goddamn do I find Annabelle just perfect. All of the main girls are amazing in my opinion, there isn't a weak link in the whole bunch, but I'm really looking forward to Annabelle getting more involved and joining the other girlfriends. Praying there isn't some "she was secretly forced to spy for blah blah family" shit. Just let me enjoy this adorably clumsy sweetheart who wanted a new friend.
"Who wanted a new friend"? Clearly she is terribly infatuated with the MC and too shy to say it. As shy people do,she is taking the slow, circuitious route that almost never works with non-shy people, and wants to be his friend first.
 
  • Thinking Face
Reactions: nonanonanon

Mab2t

Newbie
Jul 27, 2025
31
27
12
Tbf, she just said "10" , not that 10 is the limit, it could pretty much be ten more without counting the 3 gf he had at the time :KEK:
when they were discussing it the MC said he wanted to include Misaki, Allison and all the girls present in the cafe at the time of the discussion. This would be the three first women, Sarah, Hannah and I believe Catherine was present too. There are 12 mains so I could see Cozy going to 12 for the harem or maybe Akari and Rachel are there as extras to allow for various scenarios to put the MC into.
 

shitass1001

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2021
1,200
5,021
656
when they were discussing it the MC said he wanted to include Misaki, Allison and all the girls present in the cafe at the time of the discussion. This would be the three first women, Sarah, Hannah and I believe Catherine was present too. There are 12 mains so I could see Cozy going to 12 for the harem or maybe Akari and Rachel are there as extras to allow for various scenarios to put the MC into.
Some of the girls aren't fully in the harem, but they will get sex scenes
 

Mark Loring

Member
Mar 20, 2025
110
175
53
Some of the girls aren't fully in the harem, but they will get sex scenes
Yeah I think the first 10 girls on the MAIN page will be in the Harem; Elizabeth and Annabelle won't be included in that. The 13th girl, Charlotte, I guess is the wild-card for now whenever she shows up.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mab2t

Mab2t

Newbie
Jul 27, 2025
31
27
12
Yeah I think the first 10 girls on the MAIN page will be in the Harem; Elizabeth and Annabelle won't be included in that. The 13th girl, Charlotte, I guess is the wild-card for now whenever she shows up.
Cozy said in his Discord that Charlotte was cut in favor of Annabelle though I know there was a poll to include them both. I guess we will see. Would love to see Annabelle and Elizabeth as part of the full harem but Annabelle specifically may end up as a friends with benefits LI.
 
Last edited:

gorgetoflinen

Newbie
Jun 30, 2024
29
105
38
The dev has not said Charlotte was cut. Some of the plot originally slated for her may end up adapted to give Annabelle a larger role, and Charlotte may end up just a short-term character (or may still be a side LI). He has still not made a firm decision on it. However, she is still very much planned to be in the game at some point.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mab2t

Mab2t

Newbie
Jul 27, 2025
31
27
12
The dev has not said Charlotte was cut. Some of the plot originally slated for her may end up adapted to give Annabelle a larger role, and Charlotte may end up just a short-term character (or may still be a side LI). He has still not made a firm decision on it. However, she is still very much planned to be in the game at some point.
Not sure why people do this on the internet when search engines exist? I get that the discord post from Cozy was in August of 2024 but yes Cosy did say he was cutting Charlotte:

I've kinda implied this a few times, but I may as well reveal it now regarding Annabelle: I've decided for certain now to make her the 12th LI and cut Charlotte (the original 12th LI). I have a very good means of tying her into the main story, and it also helps to reduce overall character bloat this way.
Like I said, it was an old post but it was a post that was posted by Cozy. Cozy is able to change their mind and like I said in my first post, there was a poll to keep both.
 
4.60 star(s) 271 Votes