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It's not the best but you can certainly understand it. Many "you/I" and "he/she" are mixed up which is, imho, the biggest concern - but it's definetly readable and understandable even for me as a not-native-english speaker.
One thing to add is the dev has mentioned a Kagura Games release being in the works already for a while. So if you want a good translation (and uncensored), it should be coming some time this year.
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Can you cite a recent source on the status of the KG version? Because last time I covered this breaking news here: https://f95zone.to/threads/mucchimu...pin-v1-005-ota-guchi-field.82017/post-9543967
In short, KG's release is in a limbo due to massive delays and Ota Guchi Field is livid with them, swearing he will never work with them ever again. Unless something changed since then, I would not recommend holding your breath for a release anytime soon given KG's history.
The post on the dev's ci-en literally says that KG told him to expect a release in the first half this year. Which is what I said.
I get why he's pissed, I'm sure he's never working with KG again after this, but in no way does it indicate the KG release is in "limbo". It just means it has taken way longer than he initially thought/hoped and he's pissed.
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With all due respect, KG has broken a lot of their expected deadlines in the past. Given how they have essentially lost this author, perhaps even permanently, from doing any of his future works, I'm hard pressed to believe that they will keep their mid 2023 deadline as priority. Currently you can track their upcoming releases and out of the 11 of them, not one is this game. Sure things can change in the coming months but I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm not sure what you're referring to, because one of the big things about KG is they basically don't give expected deadlines and haven't done so in ages. Even this one wasn't meant to be public. And while Ota Guchi Field here criticizes their slowness, he never says they previously gave him another, closer expected release window.
And KG's upcoming releases list is hardly indicative of anything, games jump that queue all the time especially because these days KG mostly announces games "close" to their release to avoid a Demon Queen Melissa or Princess of Zeven situation. And I don't think they'd be petty enough to shelve a project because the dev criticized them.
- Aug 3, 2017
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What the post actually says is:
It has been a year and a half since I handed over the game data to Kagura Games, and half a year has passed this month since I drew and handed over the illustrations for marketing purposes, and I have not heard from them at all.
then when he asked kg why was it taking more than a year and half the awnser they gave him was:
The answer was, "This is from the development team, we are working on localizing the game for release by the middle of 2023." That's all I heard.
So it looks like we need more than half a year from now.... (this as of decemnber 2022 when the ci-en post was made)
Then I thought to myself. What have they been doing for a year and a half?
And if you actually do bother to look through the dev ci-en posts you will find one where it was stated by kg that the game would be localized by the start/mid of 2022. Same thing also happened with Country Girl Keiko.
So its not a "taken way longer than he initially thought/hoped" but rather what he was first told more than a year and a half ago. (as he even said that he had already given kg the game data)
While you are right that these deadlines are not supposed to be "public", most devs dont just hand over their games without actually dates set. So saying that kg doesnt give expected deadlines would be fake.
Honestly you only need ask some of the devs who work/worked with kg and they will tell u exactly what i said.
Simply by browsing any dev ci-en from time to time you can see that Ota Guchi Field is not the only dev with complaints.
Im sure you aware that at least 3 devs cut ties with kg at this point exactly because of kg giving expected deadlines and not go trough with them.
Some of those devs even decided that going on with other less english fluent companies was better than listening to fake promises as you probably know. (no future as a recent example)
And no kg cant just shelve a project even if they wanted. But they can delay it indefinity.
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Maouhime I have, in fact, DM'd various H-RPG devs about timelines of english releases by KG. The consistent answer I've gotten is that they do not know, and that it's out of their hands.
IIRC, it's true that once upon a time KG gave expected release windows, to devs and even sometimes publicly, and they were unable to keep their "promises" often. Now, they've entirely shifted strategy and do not give such timelines. If you can find the ci-en where Ota Guchi Field said he had been explicitly told before by KG that it would be released by early 2022, then I'd like to see that because I never saw it. I know a few other devs have voiced serious frustrations, but I also know sometimes fans have exaggerated those. For example for ages back in the day you had people saying Shimobashira was fuming at KG because of how long they took for Ambrosia because of one sentence about that in a Ci-En, and how he would never sign with them for Celesphonia... And in the end he did sign with them, doesn't really have an issue with their timelines.
Either way, I'm not saying devs and/or fans shouldn't have a problem with KG releases taking a long time. Everyone knows KG takes on way too many games at once and is spread way too thin to release them fast. I wish they had more competition in the "premium" H-RPG localization + uncensoring space. It sucks knowing you'll be waiting at least a year if not more, and it must suck even more for the devs.
But when I see OGF say "what have they been doing for a year and a half", I can't help but roll my eyes because if his contract didn't straight up say "release before X time" this is also on him, and in the year and a half he speaks of they probably released something like 35 games. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what they were doing.
IIRC, it's true that once upon a time KG gave expected release windows, to devs and even sometimes publicly, and they were unable to keep their "promises" often. Now, they've entirely shifted strategy and do not give such timelines. If you can find the ci-en where Ota Guchi Field said he had been explicitly told before by KG that it would be released by early 2022, then I'd like to see that because I never saw it. I know a few other devs have voiced serious frustrations, but I also know sometimes fans have exaggerated those. For example for ages back in the day you had people saying Shimobashira was fuming at KG because of how long they took for Ambrosia because of one sentence about that in a Ci-En, and how he would never sign with them for Celesphonia... And in the end he did sign with them, doesn't really have an issue with their timelines.
Either way, I'm not saying devs and/or fans shouldn't have a problem with KG releases taking a long time. Everyone knows KG takes on way too many games at once and is spread way too thin to release them fast. I wish they had more competition in the "premium" H-RPG localization + uncensoring space. It sucks knowing you'll be waiting at least a year if not more, and it must suck even more for the devs.
But when I see OGF say "what have they been doing for a year and a half", I can't help but roll my eyes because if his contract didn't straight up say "release before X time" this is also on him, and in the year and a half he speaks of they probably released something like 35 games. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what they were doing.
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Gonna try to adress it by points:
While some of the devs i contacted said the same thing as they did to you, others said that kg had indeed given them dates thus they worked on the clock to provide them with the game data.
For the post itself, i doubt i can find it anymore since i saw it posted on the kg server around the time the game was announced and its prob hidden within a bunch of spam but i will try to find it again. I just remenber it existed because OGF was super hyped and happy kg had contacted him.
As for Shimobashira it was not a case of him signing the contract again but rather kg being somewhat smart and calling dibs during game development when they picked up ambrosia.
As yes i do agree that kg should have more competition " in the "premium" H-RPG localization + uncensoring space ", mostly because if they did have actual competition it would made them rethink how they aproach both devs and clients and maybe actually release games properly tested for bugs, instead of releasing 4+ patches patches for some of them and forgetting that other games also have bugs.( Unfortunally i do own quite a few kg games with glaring issues that never got fixed despise people reporting them)
As for kg being spred too thin well... thats sadly their own fault.I wont go into details but lets say they are using MangaGamer employee strategy.
While some of the devs i contacted said the same thing as they did to you, others said that kg had indeed given them dates thus they worked on the clock to provide them with the game data.
For the post itself, i doubt i can find it anymore since i saw it posted on the kg server around the time the game was announced and its prob hidden within a bunch of spam but i will try to find it again. I just remenber it existed because OGF was super hyped and happy kg had contacted him.
As for Shimobashira it was not a case of him signing the contract again but rather kg being somewhat smart and calling dibs during game development when they picked up ambrosia.
As yes i do agree that kg should have more competition " in the "premium" H-RPG localization + uncensoring space ", mostly because if they did have actual competition it would made them rethink how they aproach both devs and clients and maybe actually release games properly tested for bugs, instead of releasing 4+ patches patches for some of them and forgetting that other games also have bugs.( Unfortunally i do own quite a few kg games with glaring issues that never got fixed despise people reporting them)
As for kg being spred too thin well... thats sadly their own fault.I wont go into details but lets say they are using MangaGamer employee strategy.
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About all this "blind" situation with KG and OGF (as well as other game devs).
I think, KG should to think about sharing their translation progress with the game devs. In percents or somehow else. At least every month. Othertwice it's not serious work at all.
This will be more transparent and should resolve most of the problems for everybody. Except KG, if they're lazy.
I think, KG should to think about sharing their translation progress with the game devs. In percents or somehow else. At least every month. Othertwice it's not serious work at all.
This will be more transparent and should resolve most of the problems for everybody. Except KG, if they're lazy.
I think devs would still be pissed if they received updates on the progress but said progress was super slow, and sometimes didn't move from one month to the other. The problem isn't that KG is lazy (they release multiple games per month on average), it's that KG takes on way too many games for their size. And at the same time, KG is the only real option for a quality localization/uncensor for H-RPGs so despite taking on too many games they still only scratch the surface of available H-RPGs, so if KG took on less there'd be so many more games that wouldn't get any localization, or a low quality one with probably no uncensor.
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as someone has said before, KG takes so many really great projects because they don't want other studios to do the same instead. KG doesn't care that they can't do their work on time, let game devs down, and therefore it seems too selfish. On the other hand, game devs should read the contract terms more carefully and blame not only KG, but themselves as well.
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Does anyone know what happens in the bad ending? Just discovered the game has one but already completed the game
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Everything is already here, and you can use the search bar above to search for a specific solution, so no, you may be lazy, but the internet is not your personal maid.
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You have kill all the animals in the game (bug, dog, cow, frog,...) and at the end of the game where you have to face off the evil spirit, the MC will kill the bad looking girl will a knife instead of saving her. A crime scene happened, god appear and punish usDoes anyone know what happens in the bad ending? Just discovered the game has one but already completed the game