ElukiaTV
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Sorry, I'm just quite bad with irony and basically everything that requires to think. But yeah, I don't understand why Vertigo lied about this update, everything turned out to be the exact opposite of what he promised to people who allow him to have everything he has, giving him their money in the hope that he will not let them down.
Still strange when the dev said that the whole update is done but will be released in 2 parts. As far as I remember at least.
Amnezziia
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Not really:
" And speaking of Part 2:
It shouldn't take too long after Part 1 has been released to get it out, too, though I'm not giving any estimates for a release date yet. I've learned my lesson. "
And then 2 days after the public release of Part 1, he took a break until the end of the year, so he is back working on the game for 15 days now.
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Yes, that is true.
EDIT: If you read the source Amnezziia posted just a few messages up from the one I replied to, you'll see he's actually changed the meaning of this picture to now mean "...15% of the remaining work ." Extremely bizarre choice, when he's been using this still images of the characters to display how much he's completed. Literally just change the 1 to an 8 and the correct meaning is preserved, and you don't have to explain it.
I find it highly amusing that in the very post he claims to have learned his lesson about setting expectations, he created more false hope and miscommunication.
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Amnezziia
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Again, it's not 15% of the update done, but 15% remaining. So it's pretty much on point with what he said if we have an update before the end of the month.
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maybe change the wording to "15% left " or 85% ? The fact he specifically used a way smaller number is just weird. But hey, the way he talks to his fans i´m sure this is just entitled talk since i´m not paying a cent for this project anymore, as long as he continues his milking scheme instead of actually progressing the story.
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Yeah that's on me. I should have read the source you posted just above. But as we all agree, it's really weird. He used the exact same type of picture to display how much was completed, but has now randomly changed it to what is "remaining".
Again, massive communication fumble. I've made plenty of them myself, sure, but never when I'm speaking directly to a consumer, where my income is on the line. It's like he's trying to be inept for some reason.
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To add.. he said the "big" update was gonna be the whole trip to the place..
im gonna bet here and now that by the end of the next update (the supposed second half), we are still there.
im gonna bet here and now that by the end of the next update (the supposed second half), we are still there.
I'm hoping the next major update moves on from the hotel stuff. It seems like ever since MC's house got destroyed, the story went from a slow burn to a filler episode on a soap opera. The beach hotel already felt out of place, but it's really starting to feel like the dev is running out of ideas for the story and I'm hoping something actually happens (besides cockteasing lore info and introducing more one-off story characters)
Sorry for double posting, but yeah, why is he so mad at you asking about a feature that's common in most VNs? I know the game's story is super important and choices and all of that, but is there not a way to implement a cheap "I did this or that" system if that's the case? I don't even think that'd matter anyways, it's been too many updates since a choice you made matters and that "matters" was really moreso dialogue than actual story divergence. God forbid you have an option to jump to the newest update in a game where the last year or so of progress has taken place in the timespan of 2 days at a hotel
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from what i´ve gathered, MC won´t return to his home. The Hotel is his new home, so to speak. It´s more fitting anyway with all the people following him around. And this way they are at least at the same spot and not scattered throughout the city. Although... I wouldn´t put it past the dev to manage and make a simple trip to a different floor an update worth of content...
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Yeah that's the real problem here. As much as I think monthly releases are a good schedule, if that's the best he can scrape together in a single month, then perhaps he needs to spend more time story-boarding. Honestly that's the part that takes me the longest in the creative process. Once I have a general idea the rest is easy. Though not everyone can write extemporaneously like I can, and it's not without its flaws. Without knowing the devs writing process, I can't say any more as to why the game keeps having these lackluster updates. Only that it really needs to stop or its gonna die a slow, sad death.
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Not really.
A 'create new game' scene to skip content would need to set values, or default. In theory, the dev could set canon values somewhere, call them based on the progression point, and force that. On top of that, they could do what a few other devs have (debug page with questions + toggles); prompting every potential fork would be a pain, and it could result in saves missing variables. This would mean making the page, collecting every variable you might need, and so on. Then they would need to test that with every update breakpoint they wanted to release, and then re-test those points against new game states when a variable is used (or check it). It adds a fair amount of time to every update. The only other option would be assuming the value if it's missing (which requires going back through all of the code to make sure the queries are done properly to prevent an error/traceback screen). The feature would slow down development/release cycles.
If it was something designed into the game from the start (i.e. was always the idea), it wouldn't be too bad (because it would be in the architecture of the project), but it wasn't. (Some devs do different game releases for different parts of their game/story, which makes it feel like this is more normal; I don't remember there being a 'skip into story' option for anything that actually used variables?)
A simple right-click on skip will push you a massive distance in this game/story, in a matter of seconds (depending on how good your system is). (AFAIK mobiles don't have that functionality.) From a developer's perspective, it's not worth the development time.
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I agree. It's already hard to bring 4-6 girls into a story and not make it a mess, but here MC has what, 15-20 girls? At least potential LIs. That's what doesn't let this game to develop, he spends too much time with the girls instead of looking for answers.
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