Flash Abandoned Crimson Keep [Ch. 7 v1.6] [introspurt]

[Kisama33]

Some info regarding CK8 and the compiled version shared on discord.





Edit: Status Update.

should they change the status to ongoing now that it's confirmed he's back to working on CK chapter 8? sorry if dozens others already asked this

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[Erorogi-san]

I only recently started playing this game, flew past chapters 1-5 relatively quickly. It's a fun experience but god, can it be an annoying one.
Gripes: Gameplay/menu changes each chapter. Not even a joke. Some are good, some seem pointless, some make it more difficult like the game now limiting your charms/equipment. The grind is another annoying aspect. Both in terms of level and travel, which feels like a slog, combat becomes less and less fun as it goes on. It peaks around chapter 5 where it does feel challenging but satisfying but the moment chapter 6 starts it all just flies out the window.One of my biggest gripes and questions about the game is why is there even a tempt system in place when we never use it? I remember chapter 5 started to explain how "it won't be as random anymore" and "there's a heart you can now fill for non bosses" yet every single enemy we face is either charmed so we can't tempt them before we reduce their HP or can't be tempted in the first place. What's even the point?
Anyway I really wanted to complain about that shit. Overall, art is great and the girls are likeable. I am enjoying the game, but the constant changes just got me annoyed finally. I hope movement and the grind is reduced in upcoming releases and some of the "missable" content gets reworked (won't rely on you grinding out mobs until you proc the "quest" to start)

 

[crackad]

I only recently started playing this game, flew past chapters 1-5 relatively quickly. It's a fun experience but god, can it be an annoying one.
Gripes: Gameplay/menu changes each chapter. Not even a joke. Some are good, some seem pointless, some make it more difficult like the game now limiting your charms/equipment. The grind is another annoying aspect. Both in terms of level and travel, which feels like a slog, combat becomes less and less fun as it goes on. It peaks around chapter 5 where it does feel challenging but satisfying but the moment chapter 6 starts it all just flies out the window.One of my biggest gripes and questions about the game is why is there even a tempt system in place when we never use it? I remember chapter 5 started to explain how "it won't be as random anymore" and "there's a heart you can now fill for non bosses" yet every single enemy we face is either charmed so we can't tempt them before we reduce their HP or can't be tempted in the first place. What's even the point?
Anyway I really wanted to complain about that shit. Overall, art is great and the girls are likeable. I am enjoying the game, but the constant changes just got me annoyed finally. I hope movement and the grind is reduced in upcoming releases and some of the "missable" content gets reworked (won't rely on you grinding out mobs until you proc the "quest" to start)

Understandable gripe.
The Dev has been transparent about the frequent changes though from the very start. The project is experimental as it's his first project and he does it as a passion project i.e. he has a day job and takes no form of monetary support for this project, all of the points above are something the dev acknowledged and intends to fix when he compiles all the chapters in Unity as a single executable.
Enemies being charmed is part of the story, the heart mechanic was to alleviate problems of unenchanted enemy that can be tempted which are far less due to how the plot unfolds

 

[Kisama33]

One of my biggest gripes and questions about the game is why is there even a tempt system in place when we never use it? I remember chapter 5 started to explain how "it won't be as random anymore" and "there's a heart you can now fill for non bosses" yet every single enemy we face is either charmed so we can't tempt them before we reduce their HP or can't be tempted in the first place. What's even the point?
Anyway I really wanted to complain about that shit. Overall, art is great and the girls are likeable. I am enjoying the game, but the constant changes just got me annoyed finally. I hope movement and the grind is reduced in upcoming releases and some of the "missable" content gets reworked (won't rely on you grinding out mobs until you proc the "quest" to start)

The "Charmed" is nothing more than a 2nd health bar that also grants protection against being insta-Tempted or "killed", it would be hard to understand how you could be talking with a NPC that you just knocked out among other things, like how it's possible for a single creature to take control of an entire city without anyone being able to stop them. Since only other Succubus/Incubus can break them free that explains why the current situation around the entire volcano remains stagnant until the protagonist reachs each area and why none of the NPCs and characters can do anything to stop against it.
And the normal Tempt system couldn't be removed since you still need to "charm" your enemies to obtain a covenant, so the best solution to avoid the RNG was to make the mechanic more similar to the "charmed" enemies, a 2nd health bar, since you still need to damage the target HP for Tempt attacks to be more effective, the only difference is that regular enemies now have a low chance of being tempted instantly and bosses that are not optional and are not charm will give you a Game Over screen if you fail to do it.

I hope you are ready for ch. 8, because this new entry will have the biggest changes of them all, but at least the objective is to make this new version as definitive as possible for the eventual remaster of all previous chapters using the same formula. Since each enemies now will only give a certain amount of EXP is more likely for you to get any optional collecionables or quests as you try to maximize your LV. And the objective is also to reduce de reliance on RNG so I suppose it's going to become easier in that regard.

 

[Erorogi-san]

I hope you are ready for ch. 8, because this new entry will have the biggest changes of them all, but at least the objective is to make this new version as definitive as possible for the eventual remaster of all previous chapters using the same formula. Since each enemies now will only give a certain amount of EXP is more likely for you to get any optional collecionables or quests as you try to maximize your LV. And the objective is also to reduce de reliance on RNG so I suppose it's going to become easier in that regard.

Understandable gripe.
The Dev has been transparent about the frequent changes though from the very start. The project is experimental as it's his first project and he does it as a passion project i.e. he has a day job and takes no form of monetary support for this project, all of the points above are something the dev acknowledged and intends to fix when he compiles all the chapters in Unity as a single executable.

I totally understand this is a project that's been YEARS in the making and not only do opinions change but people also grow/learn as they develop. Unfortunately, there won't be a definitive edition for a while but I am still looking forward to the next chapter of the game. It is still fun, the art and animations are still incredible and the characters are all charming. I'm curious to see where the dev takes the story and I did enjoy the combat up until chapter 6 where it felt like there was a difficulty spike all of a sudden. I applaud them for not only sticking through this long but seeing where they could improve and charging ahead to see what sticks and what doesn't.
I also do get why the second health bar exists, I probably just didn't word myself properly, it just feels like a shame to have a whole mechanic about lust attacks and only be able to use it near the end of boss fights where as before you could at least also use it on random mobs. I think after the changes there's only one monster you can tempt that's not charmed by someone else.
I am, as of typing this, only now starting chapter 7 so who knows how I'll feel afterwards or once chapter 8 is available lol. But outside of being annoyed by some aspects, I do enjoy this game.

 

[Vendiagrand]

Yea the difficulty spike did have me considering to mess with the slider but then I thought back to my cuphead days and I was like.....eh could be worse.

I have a love-hate relationship with boss rush games. I hope Chapter 8 has more downtime areas with "downtime bosses" and not every boss is like consequential to the story

Also searching for more victory sex games that don't have the sex once every 30 mins of gameplay lol

 

[the alpacalypse (1)]

I know it's a long shot, but I just hope the dev tones down the amount of belly bulge in the game. Unfortunately for me, it seems to be one of his fetishes.

Ah well, I still enjoy the game, even despite how much I hate that fetish. Which really speaks very highly of the quality of this game.

 

[Hentaigonist V2]

how do i fuse the chapters together?

 

[norikoOC]

how do i fuse the chapters together?

You can't yet, play them one at a time and load your save between them

 

[Magister Masquerade]

You can't yet, play them one at a time and load your save between them

Yet? So is he planning on a way to fuse them? I kinda like the games (I liked the other one he abandoned better) but man the play experience would be immensely improved if you could just play them all as one game.

 

[Kisama33]

Yet? So is he planning on a way to fuse them? I kinda like the games (I liked the other one he abandoned better) but man the play experience would be immensely improved if you could just play them all as one game.

There's a plan to remake all previous chapters into Unity and then add them to the remaining ones into a single game that will gather all the story for the 1st Arc (Volcano Arc - Chapter 1-10). Basically Ch. 8 will have Ch. 9 and 10 being added to it when they are finished too, with the other 7 coming later after they are rebuild to assimilate the new mechanics and features from the new Unity version.

Same goes for ELD, that isn't abandoned, only on hiatus until the CK first arc (and probably the compiled version too) are finished. After that introspurt may return to it again.

 

[Magister Masquerade]

There's a plan to remake all previous chapters into Unity and then add them to the remaining ones into a single game that will gather all the story for the 1st Arc (Volcano Arc - Chapter 1-10). Basically Ch. 8 will have Ch. 9 and 10 being added to it when they are finished too, with the other 7 coming later after they are rebuild to assimilate the new mechanics and features from the new Unity version.

Same goes for ELD, that isn't abandoned, only on hiatus until the CK first arc (and probably the compiled version too) are finished. After that introspurt may return to it again.

Well, his progress is fairly slow (fair enough he works at this own pace as is his right), but at this rate ELD might as well be abandoned because most of us and him too will be dead before he's done remaking this series, lol.

 

[Kisama33]

Well, his progress is fairly slow (fair enough he works at this own pace as is his right), but at this rate ELD might as well be abandoned because most of us and him too will be dead before he's done remaking this series, lol.

Perhaps, especially if you consider that what you have now (for Eld) is supposed to be only around 5% to 10% of all planned content, but that was only meant to be a learning project to get used to Unity when it started so anything more we may get it's already a bonus.

I guess he might have to make some choices, cut some content, abandon some ideas, make it more basic and simple. He already give up on certain things with CK that in the end of the day is still the main project, so it wouldn't be surprising if the same happened with Eld.

There's at least one more Arc that will have some considerable changes, like going from a 1 vs 1 battle style to a party vs party/boss style, that will require more time at rebuilding the combat system from scratch again, and even Eld might apparently get some rework when he decides to go back to it.

 

[CableX]

still waiting...

 

[TriggerStrider1]

Do you guys know if introspurt said there will be NO NTR on the game ? I finished chapter 5 and

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[Kisama33]

Do you guys know if introspurt said there will be NO NTR on the game ? I finished chapter 5 and

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I believe your question already got answered on the discord server.

But yeah, if your problem is with the protagonist being "NTR'ed" then you don't need to worry (probably). Otherwise there will be "NTR", as there was already happened before, even the very first lewd event in the game is literally "NTR".

 

[Vendiagrand]

Do you guys know if introspurt said there will be NO NTR on the game ? I finished chapter 5 and

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In a game like this I'm not really worried because the plot structure is made to be in a way where the MC will win....eventually

 

[Drunkendeathknight]

I dont even know how I ended up here (got a notification), this takes me back to my newground days. Damn I miss the flash era! Introspurts really had/has some great art.
Surprised to see there isnt even a patreon, or anything recent other than discord.

Well see you in another 5 years then.

 

[SpicyWintercress]

Well see you in another 5 years then.

Ah, let's not be that pessimistic. Silksong got finally released this year, why not CK8 the next, I say

 

[SeriousPuberty]

ИIt's a pity it's not available on Android