VN Ren'Py Culture Shock [Ch. 3 v0.1] [King of lust]

[Azraelith]

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The pressing issue is that the "Alpha" path, really shouldn't be classified as Alpha. As Ava/Thorin said above it's more a Romantic path than anything. I feel like people are wanting the Alpha to be an Asshole path/Egoist path jugding by how some of the response are coming across as. Do I dislike NTR? Certainly, am I going to let it stop me from trying out a game? Not if I'm interested enough in it. Unfortunately the NTR in here just... doesn't do anything for me, same old boring weak MC that 85% of the other NTR games seem to love. Corruption only seems to take place in NTR path as well which is a black mark in my book. What I'd like to see is a game similar to Tyrant in which corruption can happen on either NTR or non-NTR and allow the women to change/drastically altar their appearance because they want to and not because; different look = more cock = good that so many NTR games seem to focus on.

Now for the 'Alpha' path. I have issues with it as well. First, as I'm reaffirming, it's more of a romantic/slow paced path where the MC knows what he wants but isn't quite sure how to go about getting it. Maybe this one isn't so much for the Alpha path but for people who are strictly for the Alpha path seem to think that the world revolves solely around the MC and that all women (even those he hasn't met) are destined to fall on his dick. What happened to good ol' fashioned confidence and self-assured in your ability and why did it turn into must be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole to women? Also as I said on the NTR side, apparently women have to look pure and can't wear revealing outfits.

I played this game way back when it was in it's earlier stages and there was a definite direction that the Alpha and NTR/Beta paths were headed towards, having tried it again since then I have to admit it's lost that direction and seems to be kind of floundering at this point, it still has direction just nowhere near as visible.

At this point I'll just stick a TLDR here:

Both paths are lackluster (in my opinion, not that it means anything) and could be fine tuned and it still wouldn't be enough to please everyone.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

Just because we are criticizing this games, doesn't mean dev will change the game. All people have different fetishes. And when they don't like one game, they have right to criticize. Yes, if those criticisms does like trolling, then i'm also against to it. Like, check my comments, does my comments given you a thought that i'm trolling this game? No. I'm not making fun of this game. I'm just criticizing. I mean, if I'm abusive, you think mods of this game thread will keep my comments? No. I never kink shamed anyone. I absolutely understand there are some guys who like slow romance progression. People like me are not into that. Then you will ask "why you are still playing this game", as i told many times to others who already countered me by the same question, i answered "I still have hope for this game. I like tracy & sunny. I don't want to lose hope. May be I'm wrong & may be this game won't give me what i wish for, but still, i don't want to lose hope. I'm totally deep into immersion mode.

My bad I was taking aim at you specifically I just picked the last comment in the thread still talking about the alpha “problem”

Everyone has a the right to criticise, but for the most part I’m seeing a lot of “the dev isn’t making the alpha path the way I want let me cry about it” The dev clearly has a liking to ntr more that’s clear so it comes with the territory when you play this game to not expect your usual alpha style game.

And the mods will remove comments and leave other trolling comments up, because some of them have a big bias against ntr, I had mine removed last week even the devs comments disappeared when He deafened his own game. yet one of the biggest criers that was trolling is still here...

 

[Shirafune]

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[Kingkoopa97]

The pressing issue is that the "Alpha" path, really shouldn't be classified as Alpha. As Ava/Thorin said above it's more a Romantic path than anything. I feel like people are wanting the Alpha to be an Asshole path/Egoist path jugding by how some of the response are coming across as. Do I dislike NTR? Certainly, am I going to let it stop me from trying out a game? Not if I'm interested enough in it. Unfortunately the NTR in here just... doesn't do anything for me, same old boring weak MC that 85% of the other NTR games seem to love. Corruption only seems to take place in NTR path as well which is a black mark in my book. What I'd like to see is a game similar to Tyrant in which corruption can happen on either NTR or non-NTR and allow the women to change/drastically altar their appearance because they want to and not because; different look = more cock = good that so many NTR games seem to focus on.

Now for the 'Alpha' path. I have issues with it as well. First, as I'm reaffirming, it's more of a romantic/slow paced path where the MC knows what he wants but isn't quite sure how to go about getting it. Maybe this one isn't so much for the Alpha path but for people who are strictly for the Alpha path seem to think that the world revolves solely around the MC and that all women (even those he hasn't met) are destined to fall on his dick. What happened to good ol' fashioned confidence and self-assured in your ability and why did it turn into must be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole to women? Also as I said on the NTR side, apparently women have to look pure and can't wear revealing outfits.

I played this game way back when it was in it's earlier stages and there was a definite direction that the Alpha and NTR/Beta paths were headed towards, having tried it again since then I have to admit it's lost that direction and seems to be kind of floundering at this point, it still has direction just nowhere near as visible.

At this point I'll just stick a TLDR here:

Both paths are lackluster (in my opinion, not that it means anything) and could be fine tuned and it still wouldn't be enough to please everyone.

I honestly can’t find anything I disagree with you there. Maybe changing the names of the paths might help new players understand what Their playing.

As someone who enjoys both alpha and ntr in games, I’m not the biggest fan of the beta path in this game it’s just your standard cuck shit just like in a harem game of all women jumping straight on the mc, both are the most boring shit ever, I really enjoy a challenge or at least the feeling of challenge in both ntr and harem games.

Hey Mayonesa facepalming only increases my stats you should just reply to me if you disagree

 

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[sevendustkorn1008]

Yeah, if u enjoy slow path, good for you. It's okay to like realistic games. But, you also agreed porn games does mean a different alpha. So, players who want to play alpha path, typically assumes that they get to play as a porno alpha like marcus. Instead, we got a realistic Alpha, which many of non-ntr players won't like it. Why? Because very less people wants to live realistic in porn games. If they are so happy with real lives, why to play porn games at all? Many of us play porn games because we can do what we can't in real life. So, yeah, many non-ntr players hating alpha route, does seems as a genuine flaw of this game because it is also a porn game, because it involves unrealistic easiest ntr path..

You see, but the alpha path is only slow when it comes to Sunny and Tracy. If we're basing this solely on the alpha path content involving Sunny and Tracy, you are absolutely right. It's a slow game. However, if we're looking at the overall number of sex scenes involving all the female characters in the alpha path, then there's actually quite a bit of content.

When thinking about it, there's actually a trade off. For example, in the alpha path there are like 4-5 scenes with Karla (including HJ, BJ, and full sex). In the beta path, there is 1 voyeur BJ scene with Karla. In the alpha path, there are 4-5 sex scenes with Maude. In the beta path, there is 1 video of Marcus fucking Maude.

It's when dealing with his family that there is little to no content in the alpha path. In the alpha path, there is a couple HJ scenes (1 dream, 1 with MC sleeping) with Tracy. In the beta path, there are 2 scenes, (1 flashback, 1 dream). It's with Sunny that there is the biggest discrepancy. There is 0 content in the alpha path with Sunny. But in the beta path, she's kind of the star of the show. She has like 6 scenes with Marcus.

I haven't gone back through the game and counted the scenes. This is just off the top of my head, but I think the number of sex scenes in each path is close to equal. I think the main issue people refer to has to do with Sunny. I think it's the fact that Sunny has 0 content in the alpha path that people think the alpha path gets nothing compared to the beta path. Overall, I think the issue really stems not so much from the actual amount of content, but from the focus of the content not being to people's liking.

 

[sevendustkorn1008]

Lot of words. Which path is your primary?

I play play both alpha and beta paths. I used to play 3 paths: alpha, beta, and diplomatic. But I've found that there is no real point to a 3rd path. There's nothing different in a diplomatic path that you don't already see in alpha and beta paths. If anything, that's my biggest gripe with the game. There's no appeal to the diplomatic path, even though it was hyped up in the beginning.

But I am up to date with the alpha and beta paths, so I am well versed in the content of the whole game.

 

[criestoomuch]

It's when dealing with his family that there is little to no content in the alpha path. In the alpha path, there is a couple HJ scenes (1 dream, 1 with MC sleeping) with Tracy. In the beta path, there are 2 scenes, (1 flashback, 1 dream). It's with Sunny that there is the biggest discrepancy. There is 0 content in the alpha path with Sunny. But in the beta path, she's kind of the star of the show. She has like 6 scenes with Marcus.

I wouldn't say 0 content. There are definitely hints of content with Sunny. The gym and the beach scene come to mind. You just haven't had anything that could arguably be called sex. Yet.

Plus, it seems like you're pursuing more women than Marcus is. So, it makes sense that the relationships are a different kind of intense.

Oh, and there also several Liza scenes on the Alpha/Romance Path. So, it's not as unbalanced as I remembered.

 

[dyho]

I will give my opinion as I see that they talk about how slow the alpha route or that the developer likes the ntr

I think that to the beginning of the game they have made it clear to us that the mc is a person focused on his video games and that he does not relate much to the alpha route, he has to be slow for that reason to be able to develop his confidence that's what lizaand maude do that basically they are bitch ago long time,

With tracy and sunny, it's more like you have to conquer them and show that this or has changed, so it is more difficult to get to throw them away quickly, which is not that it looks bad but is infuriating because of the abundant content of the Beta / Ntr route

Now for the beta / Ntr route (and I will make it clear I hate Ntr) first you have to accept that you are new to the place and the relationships are mostly already formed and some girl are ssssvery bitch example: liza, maude and although secretly emma also in the alpha route they don't show you but they tell you or make you understand.

For tracy and sunny it is basically the same as said above, you start out as a loser and for them it is easier to start a relationship with other people than with you since they see you as family.

and up to there everything is justified and it is a good game for the problem that many have with sunny, is how fast the bitch become of marcus (I too DAMNED creator / writer if you read this is lie) but you have to see what The hormones at that age are strong and with the new environment where the locals are freer they give impetus, but the problem comes with the fact that she knows that Marcus has a girlfriend, so it is as if a part is missing a bit more push before everything else. It is happening with her plus Marcus's doubt and incidence as the effort to make her accept.

And for the beta / Ntr (revenge?) I expect a lot from her, I don't know about you, but if I wanted to make them suffer.

but overall it's a great game

 

[Rectory]

You see, but the alpha path is only slow when it comes to Sunny and Tracy. If we're basing this solely on the alpha path content involving Sunny and Tracy, you are absolutely right. It's a slow game. However, if we're looking at the overall number of sex scenes involving all the female characters in the alpha path, then there's actually quite a bit of content.

When thinking about it, there's actually a trade off. For example, in the alpha path there are like 4-5 scenes with Karla (including HJ, BJ, and full sex). In the beta path, there is 1 voyeur BJ scene with Karla. In the alpha path, there are 4-5 sex scenes with Maude. In the beta path, there is 1 video of Marcus fucking Maude.

It's when dealing with his family that there is little to no content in the alpha path. In the alpha path, there is a couple HJ scenes (1 dream, 1 with MC sleeping) with Tracy. In the beta path, there are 2 scenes, (1 flashback, 1 dream). It's with Sunny that there is the biggest discrepancy. There is 0 content in the alpha path with Sunny. But in the beta path, she's kind of the star of the show. She has like 6 scenes with Marcus.

I haven't gone back through the game and counted the scenes. This is just off the top of my head, but I think the number of sex scenes in each path is close to equal. I think the main issue people refer to has to do with Sunny. I think it's the fact that Sunny has 0 content in the alpha path that people think the alpha path gets nothing compared to the beta path. Overall, I think the issue really stems not so much from the actual amount of content, but from the focus of the content not being to people's liking.

If you read my comments on this thread, I too said the same thing. Lot of people are concerned with main Lis. Not with side characters that comes as "easy". Maude & Liza are sluts. (Although maude is faithful to you, her inner character is slutty becoz she sent her private photoes without even MC's asking, immediately after MC asks for her phone number. She constantly craved for his attention & make him agree to accept her as his girlfriend. And most of the scenes are dedicated to her only (which no one asked). And that liza? She is just a whore who is ready to give bj to MC even in beta path. And Karla? Yeah, I agree she is the only good thing happened to alpha path. No one will say that her stuff is slow or less. She is like a gift to alpha path lovers. She made us to think, "we came for mom & sis, but stayed for karla".

So, the overall stuff in alpha path is the kind which no one asked. Some liked that suprises. But lot still suffering that they are not getting good amount of content from main girls. Ntr or non-ntr, most of us came for mom & sis. It's open secret.

 

[Rectory]

I wouldn't say 0 content. There are definitely hints of content with Sunny. The gym and the beach scene come to mind. You just haven't had anything that could arguably be called sex. Yet.

Plus, it seems like you're pursuing more women than Marcus is. So, it makes sense that the relationships are a different kind of intense.

Oh, and there also several Liza scenes on the Alpha/Romance Path. So, it's not as unbalanced as I remembered.

Marcus is not the only antagonist in ntr path, NTR means loosing all girls, whether you are loosing to marcus or loosing to other males is not the point. As long as girls getting fucked with other guys & MC is jealous about it, it is added as "important NTR content". Because loosing girls is important, not the boys who are fucking them. More men means more enjoyment to ntr fans. If you only give marcus, they wont satisfy. They like sunny to get DPed, gangbanged.

And Don't even talk about Liza. That whore who is ready to give bj to MC even in beta path. Do you think most of alpha lovers love liza & maude? Make a poll. You will know.

 

[sevendustkorn1008]

I wouldn't say 0 content. There are definitely hints of content with Sunny. The gym and the beach scene come to mind. You just haven't had anything that could arguably be called sex. Yet.

Plus, it seems like you're pursuing more women than Marcus is. So, it makes sense that the relationships are a different kind of intense.

Oh, and there also several Liza scenes on the Alpha/Romance Path. So, it's not as unbalanced as I remembered.

First, I never said it was unbalanced. In the full comment (not just that paragraph), I said there is pretty much the same amount of content on the beta and alpha paths. I was simply pointing out that the focus differs depending on the path you're on.

Also, yes, I know that there is the gym and beach scene with Sunny in the alpha path. But that's not really content, at least not the type of content we expect in these games. It's story content, and while I do like story, no one is complaining about lack of story content. They're complaining about lack of sex scenes.

If you read my comments on this thread, I too said the same thing. Lot of people are concerned with main Lis. Not with side characters that comes as "easy". Maude & Liza are sluts. (Although maude is faithful to you, her inner character is slutty becoz she sent her private photoes without even MC's asking, immediately after MC asks for her phone number. She constantly craved for his attention & make him agree to accept her as his girlfriend. And most of the scenes are dedicated to her only (which no one asked). And that liza? She is just a whore who is ready to give bj to MC even in beta path. And Karla? Yeah, I agree she is the only good thing happened to alpha path. No one will say that her stuff is slow or less. She is like a gift to alpha path lovers. She made us to think, "we came for mom & sis, but stayed for karla".

So, the overall stuff in alpha path is the kind which no one asked. Some liked that suprises. But lot still suffering that they are not getting good amount of content from main girls. Ntr or non-ntr, most of us came for mom & sis. It's open secret.

Ok. A simple "Agreed" would have sufficed.

 

[Mayonesa]

I haven't gone back through the game and counted the scenes. This is just off the top of my head, but I think the number of sex scenes in each path is close to equal. I think the main issue people refer to has to do with Sunny. I think it's the fact that Sunny has 0 content in the alpha path that people think the alpha path gets nothing compared to the beta path. Overall, I think the issue really stems not so much from the actual amount of content, but from the focus of the content not being to people's liking.

The number of sex scenes may be closer, but there are more sex scenes in the beta path than in the "alpha". But that's not the only issue, Tracy in the beta path has a full sex scene, while in the "alpha" a shitty HJ (dreams don't count), Sunny got multiple sex scenes in the beta path, while the "alpha" is still with 0 content, showing a LI fucking with others before having been with the MC is a shitty way to show a LI for those players that want a romantic relationship with her, since we know she is a easy slut in the beta.

Now Liza is a slut no matter the path, but you get mostly the same ammount of scenes, Maude is a slut also, only Karla is a nice addition to the "alpha" path. Now you could say that almost the same amount of sex scenes for both paths means they are equal no? Wrong, you just have to see the lame vanilla sex scenes in the "alpha" path, they are pretty vanilla and over in a really short time with almost no dialogue to spice it, while in the beta path you got really non vanilla sex scenes, with multiple angles, kinky dialogue and longer than in the other path (all said by people playing both paths and seeing the images in the folder). There seems to be a mayor focus in the beta/NTR path, with better scenes, more varied, longer, with more characters, etc. So the same number of sex scenes doesn't mean that they are great in both paths, the ones in "alpha" are lame and seems to be made like really fast just to get them done with the less possible effort by the dev, while he takes really care about the scenes in the beta path, making them longer, kinkier, greater, with dialogues, multiple angles, more cg, etc.

Let's just see the last update, beta path got a threesome with Emma, while "alpha" path got nothing, and he is not even close to a threesome in that path. Also the beta path didn't have to choose between content, but the "alpha" path has to choose to do a thing or other, going to a date or to mom/sis, things like that. So yeah, there are more problems with the game other than the non content with the main girls in the "alpha" path, and same numbers of scenes doesn't mean nothing when one sex scene for the "alpha" is a BJ while the beta got a full sex or a threesome or things like that, besides it took a really long time for the MC to have anything sexual while the mom was fucking in the earliers updates in the beta path for example, it took lots of updates to the game with the "alpha" path having nothing while the beta was having lot of sex scenes, so not the same meassure for both paths.

Hell even in the photos of NTR and non NTR they post in their patreon, the NTR ones are better, kinkier and show sex while the non NTR are kinda lame most of the time. The dev is a fan of NTR so he always makes "great" NTR scenes and content, while he doesn't seem to know how to do a non NTR path in the same lvl and with great sex scenes like he seems to do in the NTR one.

 

[Curb Your Enthusiasm]

The Dev is a man of culture. Only the truly enlightened can appreciate NTR for its arousing nature.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

Let's just see the last update, beta path got a threesome with Emma, while "alpha" path got nothing, and he is not even close to a threesome in that path.

Let's say that Karla actively asking for a threesome and Maude being up for it defines as "being pretty close to it", but that's just my opinion of course...

 

[sevendustkorn1008]

Let's say that Karla actively asking for a threesome and Maude being up for it defines as "being pretty close to it", but that's just my opinion of course...

I was just going to reply to him "Ok", but your comment was much better.

So, he mentioned all of these things that are a problem with the game. But I guarantee, if there was already a sex scene with Sunny, 90% of the complaints would be gone. There's no point in trying to deny it. All those other "flaws" are only a problem because Sunny and Tracy aren't getting fucked by MC.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

I was just going to reply to him "Ok", but your comment was much better.

So, he mentioned all of these things that are a problem with the game. But I guarantee, if there was already a sex scene with Sunny, 90% of the complaints would be gone. There's no point in trying to deny it. All those other "flaws" are only a problem because Sunny and Tracy aren't getting fucked by MC.

And.....how is that a problem. Should they only be fucked in the beta path,cuz it sounds like your saying that.

Give Alpha path some actual content with the 2 main LI's. Problem solved,everyone goes home
happy right?

 

[Mayonesa]

Let's say that Karla actively asking for a threesome and Maude being up for it defines as "being pretty close to it", but that's just my opinion of course...

It seems like I forgot to put a "with Emma" when talking about MC not being close to a threesome in that path. But it doesn't matter if other characters have said they want a threesome in the alpha path, because unless the dev wants it to happen it won't happen at all, because the only content that does have different sex than "normal" is in the beta path. And the way the updates have been going, it doesn't seems like the MC will get any kind of "kinky" sex in the alpha path until later, if that even happens.

But anyway, I have said many complaints that people playing the alpha got, but it seems like you and sevendustkorn1008 are opting to ignore them, because they don't fit your story of players only complaining about the alpha path because it doesn't have sex with Sunny and/or Tracy...so yeah, not gonna bother with people that don't even get the complaints that people have, because they are happy with the paths, probably because you two play the beat and are ok with whatever happens in the alpha, but who knows.

 

[sevendustkorn1008]

And.....how is that a problem. Should they only be fucked in the beta path,cuz it sounds like your saying that.

Give Alpha path some actual content with the 2 main LI's. Problem solved,everyone goes home
happy right?

I don't understand this comment. You're saying how is that a problem, as if it's not a problem. But then you're saying it is a problem.

Second, I never said the 2 main LIs shouldn't have content in the alpha. I've stated multiple times, that the overwhelmingly biggest complaint/problem with this game is the lack of content with the LIs in the alpha. Sounds like I said exactly what you were trying to say.

 

[Rectory]

My dear fellow Alpha Players, especially the ones who hate that path (like most of them after seeing comments and ratings given by non-ntr players).

Please remember that, dev of this game already told "Alpha will be romantic & slow pace & Beta will be hardcore & slutty. Girls like Sunny, Emma, Tracy have slut tendecies in them, so in beta path, their embrace their slut things more, that results in hot, kinky, hardcore sex. In Alpha, all girls (may be except that cheap wh*re liza) will become romantic, loving. So you see sex scenes, even threesomes in a lot more regular vanilla way. But beta path, they will take a huge turn & it will be pornhub."

That means, beta will have more and more kinky hardcore sex scenes which are created for fapping mostly. And Alpha will have sex scenes which will see normally in many regular vanilla adult games which are may be worthful to fap too but are more primarily worthy of romantic feelings. (I mean if u r into that type of "feelings" in porn games but sex is secondary or sometimes even negligible for you).