Damn. I was hoping this would be a game in which the MC either wins all, or loses all. By that, I mean he either gets all the girls, or loses all the girls. I don't care if people call that NTR. I call it stakes. Unrealistic stakes, but stakes nonetheless. Play a winning game, or watch your world burn. But the decision has been made to limit such things. I really hope you succeed, Onoreonore .
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Wondering if the mom isn't a LI then why should we care what she does or who she does it with? Why would we not just leave her alone and not care? It's an porn game with incest yet we're supposed to care about mom being with some guy? If we're not going to have a relationship with her then why should we care about her at all?
Yet your whole story is about her? Who cares unless she is a LI? I'm not into forced ntr so spending my actual time playing and trying to make the right dialogue decisions just to watch someone else have sex not really fun for me I like being rewarded for the time I spend playing a game
Just my opinion I mean no disrespect to those who enjoy that content
My only suggestion is to make all ntr avoidable that way people that don't enjoy that content can still enjoy your game and if mom is not a LI then not sure why we have to watch her having sex at all because I'm not really interested in her at all if she is a LI or future sexual partner then definitely don't want to see her having sex with someone else
From this sites thread what's considered ntr:
Netorare (寝取られ) is a sexual fetish by way of having the heroine indulge in sexual activity with someone other than the protagonist.
For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:
1. The heroine either must be romantically involved with the protagonist, a potential romance for him or of someone that the protagonist shares such a close relationship (sister, mother, osananajimi etc.)
2. Related sexual events are explicitly shown to the player or later described in detail.
Thank you for your time always tag a game properly
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Since the mom isn't a possible future LI/romance interest I'll pass
Would have loved a route with sister and mom after saving her happy family route?
Although seems she's not a good mom anyway and just a drug addict slut so that's a no from me since she's being used by other men!
Good luck with your game
Would have loved a route with sister and mom after saving her happy family route?
Although seems she's not a good mom anyway and just a drug addict slut so that's a no from me since she's being used by other men!
Good luck with your game
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In fact, in principle she's a LI, but you can choose to ignore her, at least is what I understood.
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Just saying... unless it is avoidable... pretty much no one that would care, will care.
So you losing most if not all of the non-NTR crowd... which given that "()" comment is probably for a few scenes and the way you said "ONLY" means you probably don't want to lose pretty much all of them... soooo should probably make it actually avoidable if you don't want to nuke that demographic, you will still lose some for simply having that tag, but not as much.
Cause well put simply skippable makes no difference since it still happens :|
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Yeah but who's actually going to go for her? No one from those that don't like ntr/there LI being with other people
Since it's the only ntr in game he's losing a ton of interest in the game itself just to show her having sex with someone else? Not the smartest move in my opinion
He completely killed a character that non-ntr people will never like or go for and since there isn't any other ntr ntr people aren't going to play just for 1or2 scene's with her and some boyfriend that's a scum bag?
Just disappointing I guess
Thank you for your time
Right also if you can skip it then why have it it's obviously not that important for the story if you can skip it really frustrating to have to lose a potential future LI for a scene that's not even important since you can skip it why not just get rid of it and not talk about her and boyfriend having sex at all get rid of ntr tag no harm no foul what we the players don't know don't hurt us? Then continue making a good game
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You're actually completely right sadly(for me), if I were playing the game I would like the mom scene to be with the MC once you've CHOSEN to corrupt her in that route, it's even very bland as it is since there's not even enough solid context leading up to it (like her not actually being a slut but turning into one through the drugs Lazar's company makes), mistakes were made indeed.
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Fair point... although most will probably just skip the game.
Even if avoidable tbh... the mom having a bf is quite hated, only having the dad is somewhat acceptable... and sexless at that, otherwise people move on and ignore the game.
Which to be fair, doesn't matter if the dev is making the game for a different crowd... but given they seem to be going harem and went out of their way to mention it is only the mom.. I highly doubt that.
Although sadly... even if that is changed, the damage is semi-done, anyone who sees this before any changes, that would be a harem-lover, will likely avoid the game and ignore it.
So they won't see an update to it with said change, unless it is a new thread entirely.
This to me, is why it is critically important to understand your target demographic, before you even start writing. (although in novice devs defence.. you typically learn this from paying attention to other devs and seeing how things go for them, or like myself, learning it in an overpriced useless degree in games design XD )
Again though, only important if they care about that demographic, if not then doesn't matter to them. And nor should it matter to us because in such a case we aren't the audience for it. Which is perfectly fine.
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I don't know if it's better to leave this name or put a random group of letters.
I'm not much of a fan of naming the MC (if there was a "random name" button I would use it)
In any case, if I can have the rest of the LIs, I don't mind losing her too much, in fact, it would be worse if I'm forced to have her into the harem.
I'm not much of a fan of naming the MC (if there was a "random name" button I would use it)
Actually, the mother doesnt interests at all. In fact I just started the game, and with the precedents I have preferred that she is a stepmother, that way I don't mind sending her to... you know.
In any case, if I can have the rest of the LIs, I don't mind losing her too much, in fact, it would be worse if I'm forced to have her into the harem.
I have entered the game because of the romance tag, and I continue in it because there is also the harem tag (in the future). So corrupting one or more LIs to turn them into sluts appeals to me somewhere between little and nothing (and much closer to nothing than little). I wouldn't go that route at all.
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Why give two options if one of them cannot be chosen? (and I don't think it's because of the previous choices, since it's the second choice and the previous one is choosing between reaching this one or doing something else)
Agreed if Mom isn't an LI why is she the one we are supposed to save or not save depending on the route chosen....? Sorry dev but the plot has been poorly thought out from that perspective, but the comments overall made me decide to not even play. Skippable still ruins the character and story for most harem cest players. As was stated in another comment know your demographic. Also you said routes are optional and choice based but right from the start you made Mom the center of attention but then said she's not an LI... I haven't played and won't based on these circumstances. It's kind of sad because from what I saw in the preview renders your art style appeals to me, but the premise doesn't at all. Good luck moving forward.
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The MOM,
It is MomNTR, if she is not a LI, I have seen this story too many times here in Japan.
It is MomNTR, if she is not a LI, I have seen this story too many times here in Japan.
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Yeah it seems disingenuous to say that they didn't know it would be considered NTR because the corrected explanation is the definition of MomNTR because of the emotion of losing the mom to a asshole even more so because of the drugs. Before no one says anything, I have no problem with NTR, I support Tribe, HangoverCat and Infidelisoft on Patreon.
A big problem is the sites definition of ntr. In most jav ntr movies there are titles like, my mom gets fucked by my bully. My mom get taken by the local dnq gang, and variations like my sister, my aunt, my childhood friend. In most of those the guy isn't even in a sexual relation with the female in question. So people can say it's not ntr but according to the Japanese which coined the term, it's definitely ntr.
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