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poplarchan

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crash at the beggining or just before de last chapter in good route. Also crash when you talk to the far bottom left house in village on dark route. Hope you get when and where i get the error. Obviously the first crash i said keeps me from seing a possible ending and keep on playing u.u
 

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There is no satisfaction if they force a lose on u afterwards.
You don't lose, you win the battle. The story unfolds afterwards and whatever happens, happens. Like I wrote, there are many examples in mainstream games.

@ponyguy , You are fighting in a town under siege, there comes a moment when the game/npc tells you that there's no chance to save the town, you should flee, staying would mean your dead, the bad guys are coming. You have the chance to abandon the town and live to fight another day. Or you can stay. The bad boss comes with his goons and you cannot win. You loose the fight, get beaten, tortured, raped, whatever. Then you're thrown in jail. Later you get the opportunity to escape, on your way out you pass next to the boss' room. You can choose to enter it and now that he's alone you can beat him. With a broken nose and a bruised thighs you escape, but his army falls apart without their leader. If you had escaped earlier, you get to keep your virginity and your pretty nose, but the bad guy conquers few more towns before you get your chance at him later in the game.
I hope this illustrates my idea better.

And yet again: I'm not saying there should be no GOR.
 

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I would have stuck around to help finish working it out...but my meds kicked in...and I was about to faceplant on my keyboard.. Wee!!!

Glad it is sorted. Sorry about the confusion everyone!
 
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You don't lose, you win the battle. The story unfolds afterwards and whatever happens, happens. Like I wrote, there are many examples in mainstream games.

@ponyguy , You are fighting in a town under siege, there comes a moment when the game/npc tells you that there's no chance to save the town, you should flee, staying would mean your dead, the bad guys are coming. You have the chance to abandon the town and live to fight another day. Or you can stay. The bad boss comes with his goons and you cannot win. You loose the fight, get beaten, tortured, raped, whatever. Then you're thrown in jail. Later you get the opportunity to escape, on your way out you pass next to the boss' room. You can choose to enter it and now that he's alone you can beat him. With a broken nose and a bruised thighs you escape, but his army falls apart without their leader. If you had escaped earlier, you get to keep your virginity and your pretty nose, but the bad guy conquers few more towns before you get your chance at him later in the game.
I hope this illustrates my idea better.

And yet again: I'm not saying there should be no GOR.
I feel like you're expecting a bit too much from a Japanese RPG Maker h-game that features rape as its primary fetish. This is, like, two or three people making a small game just to satisfy a fetish and make some money. They give you an easy way to get the fetish and an easy way to avoid it. Nothing more, nothing less.
But hey, there's nothing wrong with wanting more from your porn. I do it all the time. Though usually it's just wanting more h-scenes of a specific type.
Personally though, I'm not really digging this scenario you gave. I don't think any fight in an RPG, h-game or not, should be unwinnable, except maybe the very first one. And even then it shouldn't get you raped if said rape isn't the focus of the story. The player should have the choice of being able to overcome any obstacle. GOR works well in making the H easily accessible and easily avoidable without forcing either outcome on the player. You want the rape? That's your ''prize'' for losing. You don't want the rape? That's your ''prize'' for not losing. No reason to make it any more complicated.
But that's just my two pennies.
 
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@ponyguy , dude, again - I'm not saying there should be no GOR. I'm saying there are ways to add more sexual content that would also work for people who are good at playing your game and don't wan't to loose fights on purpose.
 

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Compressed this Dark Bitc- I mean Elf!

Size: 514mb
Download: / / /

It's lossy compression but I'm sure your dick- uhmm I mean eyes wont notice the difference, enjoy!

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Can somebody get me the translation file only I can t download a 1.6 gig game again thanks
Does 514mb sounds better? :HeyGuys:
 
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@ponyguy , dude, again - I'm not saying there should be no GOR. I'm saying there are ways to add more sexual content that would also work for people who are good at playing your game and don't wan't to loose fights on purpose.
Never said you said there shouldn't be any GOR.
And like I mentioned in an earlier post, you have rape games where you can get scenes differently. The ones that have you play an idiot who makes obviously bad choices like working in a shady bar or crawling into a hole in the wall in the dungeon.
Honestly, I think what you need is just the option of a higher difficulty. Since, for whatever reason, you have a problem with losing on purpose. I don't have that problem. I play the game of life. I'm used to giving up. :p
Something like MGQ Paradox on Paradox difficulty. Where you just get one shot by everything. Good times. Either that or, again just like MGQP, just have the scenes unlocked after you beat the enemy. Remove the need to lose completely. Especially helpful if it's an actual Game Over rape scene and not just a loss rape you get to walk away from.
 

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Compressed this Dark Bitc- I mean Elf!

Size: 514mb
Download: /

It's lossy compression but I'm sure your dick- uhmm I mean eyes wont notices the difference, enjoy!

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Does 514mb sounds better? :HeyGuys:
Dude did u just give me a snicker ..........
 
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@ponyguy can u give me a short version of the discussion u having ?
Honestly, at this point even I'm not sure.
stoper doesn't like having to lose to get the h-scenes so he's throwing ideas around about how to improve the game by having different ways to obtain scenes.
And I'm... doing something... I guess. I don't know. I guess I'm just here for him to bounce his ideas off of. It's not like I disagree with him or anything. Having more ways to obtain h-scenes is always a good thing in my mind. I just haven't taken a liking to any particular scenario he's presented so far.
 

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@ponyguy can u give me a short version of the discussion u having ?
There was an opinion that GoR is too repetetive, and some people (like stoper) feel bad losing on purpose and want different ways to get the rape scenes.
Other opinions (like me) say, that its kinda true but works just fine. If you win a fight you shouldnt get raped, just because the story forces it on you. Would make the win kinda meaningless. (stoper thinks winning is prize enough, the rape after victory would be okay)

Discussion came to a point that other ways (like making dumb decisions for the MC) exist, but in the end its all about "developers deliver cgs/fetish in a convenient way and if you want epic story and hard rewarding fights maybe porn is not the place to look for it" (exceptions may exist)
 

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@ponyguy can u give me a short version of the discussion u having ?
We're developing a video game. So far we have just one scene and we don't actually have an agreement on how it should play. We haven't ironed out the GOR mechanics either... Sooo, I guess I'll just try this Dark Elf instead ;)
 
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And there you go. @goatwhisperer3 was paying more attention than I was. XD
I really shouldn't get into discussions when I'm tired. I probably said at least five different things that contradict with points I've made in other discussions. ::|:
 

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honestly i still dont really understand which version i should get. so before i download 2gb : which version should i get?

OP says steam version is almost the same as DLsite version. then why even upload it? why should i get a larger, slightly worse version which is basically almost the same as the DLsite version? im sure im missing something.

so what is the "best" version? which one should i download?
 
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honestly i still dont really understand which version i should get. so before i download 2gb : which version should i get?

OP says steam version is almost the same as DLsite version. then why even upload it? why should i get a larger, slightly worse version which is basically almost the same as the DLsite version? im sure im missing something.

so what is the "best" version? which one should i download?
Mine is the best of course. ;)
(check few posts above)
 
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There was an opinion that GoR is too repetetive, and some people (like stoper) feel bad losing on purpose and want different ways to get the rape scenes.
Other opinions (like me) say, that its kinda true but works just fine. If you win a fight you shouldnt get raped, just because the story forces it on you. Would make the win kinda meaningless. (stoper thinks winning is prize enough, the rape after victory would be okay)

Discussion came to a point that other ways (like making dumb decisions for the MC) exist, but in the end its all about "developers deliver cgs/fetish in a convenient way and if you want epic story and hard rewarding fights maybe porn is not the place to look for it" (exceptions may exist)
IMO i think its common for japanese developers to put it as that..... look it at it from a developer and player's perspective if the developer puts the scenes on losing then they dont have to create as much alternate scenes and a normal player who is looking for satisfaction is not gonna win a fight when they know the next scene will be in the next town or if the MC is horny i mean u really want to wait another 15 mins for a scene with ur dick or vagina out (being equal here dont judge me) also most games like these doesn't have perma death so u can always win and choose to be a whore in the next town or something the choices depends on you
 
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